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Topic: I am SO done being called "hormonal"
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 04, 2012 02:25 PM
Is this some type of archetypal term that resides in the subconcious of men?Not man bashing, but I have never heard a woman call another woman "hormonal." So here is the deal, men, YOU HAVE HORMONES TOO!!! Can you say TESTOSTERONE??? O, but that is a good hormone according to the men I have spoke to on this subject In their 20's men begin to loose testosterone and continue to loose it throughout their lifetimes and men, yes, you do have a change of life as well, due to such~ I was watching Joan and Melissa this morning. Melissa and her bfriend got into a huge fight and called her "hormonal and irrational...." (then left, did not answser his phone, did not come home...) Now who is the hormonal one here? lol! Hormones are a natural part of life, we could not exist without them. Women are called hormonal, I think, because we are not afraid to express our emotional nature and since emotions are ever changing and not a fixed thing, we are stereotyped as hormonal and moody~ Really? Truth be told, any woman on HRT, including the birth control pill cant be "hormonal" cause their hormones are being synthetically controlled... So next time anybody hears this, please educate. It is a friggin cop out, as I see it, so as one does not have to engage in a woman's emotional nature.... t~~~ IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 192 From: The Etheric Realms Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 04, 2012 02:54 PM
I totally agree! At the moment I had better not rant too much about this. It makes me quite angry. My blood levels of Testosterone are higher than most men. However, has been somewhat balanced by Estrogen, mostly from being obese. When I am at normal weight or less, the Testosterone wins out over the Estrogen, and in essence, hormonally I am more male than female. In my point of view, Testosterone is more a "moody" even violent/angry hormone than is Estrogen. I refuse HRT and all. Yes, as I lose weight and go through Menopause, I will become more male-like. By the way, excess fat produces Estrogen.
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Stawr Moderator Posts: 1507 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted March 04, 2012 10:49 PM
The next time someone asks you if it's your time of the month again, say no, it's that time of the minute again, and I'm about to tell it like it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNTPeuUlcGc Go Chris! IP: Logged |
charmainec Moderator Posts: 4047 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 01:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: The next time someone asks you if it's your time of the month again, say no, it's that time of the minute again, and I'm about to tell it like it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNTPeuUlcGc Go Chris!
There are women who use PMS as an excuse, too. I knew a person who would use it whenever she lost her temper. Seriously, you can't use PMS as an excuse whenever you react negatively to almost every situation. Yes, there are women who get it bad but there are a few who abuse it. ------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.
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T Knowflake Posts: 4779 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 01:51 AM
Ladies, youre gonna kill me...lolhate to admit it, but I really do notice not so nice changes in me once a month. It's not an excuse, just being honest with myself (and others). The hormonal fluctuations really throw me for a loop . I could probably work better on changing diet etc, and help alieviate symptoms, but it's never fun and I don't use it as an excuse, but more of a genuine warning not to eff with me. LOL Will have to try to remember what a therapist I was seeing a few years back (male) said about it, which i found really profound and beautiful. He lived with a wife and three daughters and a granddaughter, so I knew he came from a place of wisdom there. At any rate, I will admit that hormonal times of the month change me, as much as I'd like them NOT TO! ughh! It's frustrating. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 4216 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 01:55 AM
They change me, too.I think flax oil helped in the past, and flower essences can ease it at times, just like anything emotional. I haven't been in a good place for a while now, though, and when people mess with me and they know that? and get a warning from me that I'm PMS'ing? not nice. IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 4779 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 01:56 AM
Mainly he was saying not to feel guilty as women we tend to pent many emotions up, and at that time of the month, they often come out and have a right and need to. What comes out can heal us if we look honestly at what the emotion is saying deep down and deal with it and try not to let ourselves bottle things up (as women often do - moreso than men generally anyway).IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 4779 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 01:58 AM
teasel, and i'll have to think more on how he said it... it really struck me at the time and made perfect sense.. Was nice to hear, and i was a bit taken aback to have a man truly understand what was going on and be okay with it....not judge, but seemed to truly understand on a deeper level that most men wouldnt even think about or take a second to consider. IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 10:13 AM
We understand ourselves, as women, but I really think men use it as a cop out to opt out! IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 10:14 AM
quote: Originally posted by charmainec: There are women who use PMS as an excuse, too. I knew a person who would use it whenever she lost her temper. Seriously, you can't use PMS as an excuse whenever you react negatively to almost every situation. Yes, there are women who get it bad but there are a few who abuse it.
Here, here, and IF I ever hear of a woman saying something like this I would love to tell her, she is blessed with her femanine hormones~~~ IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 10:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by Stawr: The next time someone asks you if it's your time of the month again, say no, it's that time of the minute again, and I'm about to tell it like it is! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNTPeuUlcGc Go Chris!
That is beautiful!!! woohoo, rock on!!!
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 10:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by T: Ladies, youre gonna kill me...lolhate to admit it, but I really do notice not so nice changes in me once a month. It's not an excuse, just being honest with myself (and others). The hormonal fluctuations really throw me for a loop . I could probably work better on changing diet etc, and help alieviate symptoms, but it's never fun and I don't use it as an excuse, but more of a genuine warning not to eff with me. LOL Will have to try to remember what a therapist I was seeing a few years back (male) said about it, which i found really profound and beautiful. He lived with a wife and three daughters and a granddaughter, so I knew he came from a place of wisdom there. At any rate, I will admit that hormonal times of the month change me, as much as I'd like them NOT TO! ughh! It's frustrating.
No we wont kill you!!! What you say is beautiful!!! And that is just what I am saying, hormones are a part of us, so men, take your uneducated statments and shove em...well....
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: They change me, too.I think flax oil helped in the past, and flower essences can ease it at times, just like anything emotional. I haven't been in a good place for a while now, though, and when people mess with me and they know that? and get a warning from me that I'm PMS'ing? not nice.
But, see, as you have beautiful stated, Teasel, we are allowed this!!! It is our birthright....who does any man have any right to judge our behavior??? IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 10:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lexxigramer: I totally agree! At the moment I had better not rant too much about this. It makes me quite angry. My blood levels of Testosterone are higher than most men. However, has been somewhat balanced by Estrogen, mostly from being obese. When I am at normal weight or less, the Testosterone wins out over the Estrogen, and in essence, hormonally I am more male than female. In my point of view, Testosterone is more a "moody" even violent/angry hormone than is Estrogen. I refuse HRT and all. Yes, as I lose weight and go through Menopause, I will become more male-like. By the way, excess fat produces Estrogen.
Well, I suppose creator gave us the brunt of hormonal influences cause creator, created us in a particular way...and we can handle it!!! O, and I LOVE what you said about Testosterone being more moody and (violent) that estrogen....I swear by the grave of my beautiful granny and the lives of my daughters, next time a guy acts up, gets agressive I shall reply "YOU ARE BEING HORMONAL!!!" IP: Logged |
T Knowflake Posts: 4779 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 01:57 PM
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cappy1277 Knowflake Posts: 839 From: philadelphia,pa Registered: Jul 2009
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posted March 05, 2012 04:06 PM
PMS is very real for me. I keep a calendar to keep track of my changes & 10 days before that time I go through some very moody changes. I become a tyrant, moody & emotional. I don't like to use it as an excuse or crutch but the difference is not subtle. When I know that time is coming, I will stay away from all people & animals...lol. its not a good time for me or anyone else. But nonetheless I don't like to be called irrational or hormonal. Its a natural process of being a woman- some are worst than others. IP: Logged |
s4nd Knowflake Posts: 174 From: Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 05, 2012 09:52 PM
i get cranky and moody when i haven't had sex in awhile.. i guess that makes me hormonal too!IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 1955 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 05, 2012 11:55 PM
I have PMS 24/7/365, so what's the difference? I get hormonal at work everyday and want to rip heads off when I see unmotivated slackers and half baked, unintelligent work. I can feel the body fat building up and that drives the temper, impatience and short attention span. Having my pants get tight around the waist puts me in a foul mood. I can't imagine how you women wear a bra all day long. Hormones at work here, especially with the build up of estrogen over time. Forget testosterone. Estrogen is far more dangerous. Give it to battlefield soldiers and you'll see more rapid military victories IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 06, 2012 12:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: I have PMS 24/7/365, so what's the difference? I get hormonal at work everyday and want to rip heads off when I see unmotivated slackers and half baked, unintelligent work. I can feel the body fat building up and that drives the temper, impatience and short attention span. Having my pants get tight around the waist puts me in a foul mood. I can't imagine how you women wear a bra all day long. Hormones at work here, especially with the build up of estrogen over time. Forget testosterone. Estrogen is far more dangerous. Give it to battlefield soldiers and you'll see more rapid military victories
A very wise man you are and I would guess you would not call a woman "hormona" out of lack of understanding~ IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 06, 2012 12:57 PM
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 1209 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 06, 2012 12:58 PM
quote: Originally posted by cappy1277: PMS is very real for me. I keep a calendar to keep track of my changes & 10 days before that time I go through some very moody changes. I become a tyrant, moody & emotional. I don't like to use it as an excuse or crutch but the difference is not subtle. When I know that time is coming, I will stay away from all people & animals...lol. its not a good time for me or anyone else. But nonetheless I don't like to be called irrational or hormonal. Its a natural process of being a woman- some are worst than others.
And a very wise woman you are! IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 1955 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted March 06, 2012 03:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by hippichick: A very wise man you are and I would guess you would not call a woman "hormona" out of lack of understanding~
Err... no. I try to keep track of my wife's cycles and try to stay out of trouble during those times IP: Logged |
Malena Knowflake Posts: 222 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted March 06, 2012 06:24 PM
So am I the only woman who gets really horny at certain points in my cycle? Sorry if this is TMI. I mean, those days sort of make the ragey PMS days all worth it. At least for me, lol. quote: It is a friggin cop out, as I see it, so as one does not have to engage in a woman's emotional nature....
I agree. I had a female friend who told me about two separate muggings she endured. The first one left her very upset and emotional - she was crying when she went to the police. They dismissed her as "hysterical" and "exaggerating." A few years later she had the bad luck to get mugged again. This time when she went to the police, she reported things as coolly and factually as she could. They dismissed her because "wouldn't you be more upset if you were really mugged?" Can't win for trying. And I have to say, I think men engage in just as many acts of hyperemotional "craziness" as women. I mean look at the Chris Brown and Rihanna situation - soooo many people justified his nearly beating her to death with "she made him angry" or "she picked a fight." Even if that were true, his reaction was completely out of proportion and irrational! But I think sometimes male "hormonal" responses are just seen as a normal part of life, not even worth getting mad about. This isn't man-bashing, as I don't think men should be stereotyped badly either, I'm just saying we should recognize "hormonal" moody behavior is less gendered than the stereotypes would have you believe. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2748 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 10, 2012 09:32 PM
I don't think only men call women hormonal..A girl was saying that she was at a library and the person next to her was eating something that smelt horrible. She said: "It took all I had not to punch this person in the face then and there". For me ^ this comment is hormonal. I did not say anything - but I thought: "This girl is very hormonal!" So women think this about other women at times. But men can be hormonal as well. I completely agree. Actually they are more hormonal in some ways - since a great majority of murders and rapes are committed by men. I'm not sure why the word "hormonal" has caught on more as an insult on women.. rather than an insult on men.. probably due to PMS. But to be fair - there are many male-directed insults that are not gender-neutral. For instance, it's common to say "men are pigs".... and not so common to say "women are pigs". It's more common for someone to call a woman a cow - rather than a pig. So anyway - I didn't mean to make my post about farm animals.. All I am saying is - there are many insults that don't apply to *both* genders. IP: Logged |
Betty Boop Knowflake Posts: 2748 From: Betty Boop Land Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 10, 2012 10:05 PM
Also, these insults are definitely based on generalizations. I guess the reason “men are pigs” is common is because of the association between pigs and - making a mess, being dirty.. unwashed.. unhygienic.. or anti-social.. rude etc. But, are men really less hygienic than women overall? IP: Logged |