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Topic: Why is it okay for men to destroy womens's relationships, but a woman
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 24479 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 08, 2012 07:54 PM
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Malena Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted March 08, 2012 08:20 PM
I am so sorry to read your situation. I can't imagine how painful that is with your own sister. I had a best friend accuse me of trying to get friendly with her man... which I would NEVER do, and I know what kind of character assassination that accusation is and how it feels. Awful.You are probably not the only woman Mister Husband has made a pass at behind your sister's back. I suspect your sister knows this. Even if she can't admit it to herself, she probably senses it. He disrespects her by lying, so he probably doesn't respect her in other ways as well. Some insecure women can't face that they've picked a loser (and might have to be alone if they break up), so they take out their anger and betrayal on other women. It has absolutely nothing to do with you and everything to do with their internal problems. My accusatory friend was exactly like this... apparently after she got through with me, she went on to wreck every female friendship she had over "man drama." In the end it almost wasn't even about the man, it was just proving that she could be "better than" other women. But she had such a well of self-hate that it was never enough, and the cycle would start back up all over again. I almost feel sorry for her. But I won't talk to her or engage with her again. I don't know if any of this is helpful to you. You shouldn't feel guilty or bad about expressing yourself or seeking help. You haven't done anything wrong, you have the misfortune of having a toxic family member. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 172599 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 08, 2012 10:58 PM
That sucks, Teasel. BTW, if anyone quotes, I will still be able to edit it out. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Delilah Knowflake Posts: 684 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2012 03:35 AM
I agree with Malena. Your sister knows that she's made the wrong choice and is looking for someone to take it out on. Her husband is worthless and shouldn't have dragged her into an unhappy life by marrying her. My mom went through similar situations with two of her sisters. She told them both that something was peculiar about their husbands and they both accused her of being jealous. These idiots chose their husbands, who they only knew for a few years in comparison to their whole lives with my mom, and ended up catching them cheating with either a close friend or co-worker. Before any of this happened, one of their husbands came onto my mom. The other made comments about my body in front of my aunt when I was 11! Both were present for the disgusting events and chose to ignore their actions. I don't know why some people are so desperate to have someone that they ignore the red flags, especially when they're UNMISTAKABLE. Please don't feel an ounce of guilt for venting your frustrations over this. Just because your sister refuses to see the truth is no reason why you should suffer. Ignore them and leave them to their own poisonous, parasitic relationship. IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic Knowflake Posts: 1001 From: England Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2012 04:56 AM
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Malena Knowflake Posts: 237 From: Registered: Apr 2011
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posted March 09, 2012 09:17 AM
quote: Your sister knows that she's made the wrong choice and is looking for someone to take it out on.
Thanks, and your comment also reminds me... sometimes the more you insist "No, I actually don't want your man", it makes this type of woman even crazier. Because they are defining their self-worth by what a "catch" her man is, so the idea that other women don't find her man attractive upsets their whole world. IP: Logged |
Delilah Knowflake Posts: 684 From: Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 09, 2012 12:38 PM
^That's so true. Lol. Some people identify themselves through their partners and when their ego is out of hand they automatically think that everyone wants what they have. There is a fear in not picking the right spouse to mirror them, so when someone says that they don't want their partner the ego hears "why would anyone want you?" or something like it.IP: Logged |
pandacake Knowflake Posts: 326 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted March 09, 2012 03:11 PM
Oh my, I'm so sorry you have to go through all this!Can't choose your family ... Your only way out is probably to turn away because this whole ordeal is very toxic. Trying to fix things or talk things out would probably just make it worse. Try the very best you can to not let her false accusations get to you because otherwise you might get very ill, mentally & physically. Please take care of yourself. IP: Logged |
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posted March 09, 2012 03:33 PM
This is a tough one. Wish I had some good advice for you. I'd probably be reacting similarly. It's a shame that it's destroying your relationship with her.IP: Logged |
charmainec Knowflake Posts: 8746 From: Venus next to Randall Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 10, 2012 01:43 AM
------------------ quote: Remember, love can conquer the influences of the planets....It can even eliminate karma.
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Alma Sun Knowflake Posts: 2235 From: The East Coast Registered: Mar 2011
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posted March 10, 2012 02:13 AM
I'm sorry you're going through this.. :/ Is there any way you can avoid them when they come over? I'm assuming they live elsewhere? Seems like nothings going to change much unless she breaks up with him... And she sure doesn't sound like the type of person you can get through to with talks.. sorry I know that sounds judgmental.. If you can, try to go out for awhile, go to a friend's, a library, or shopping etc. On days you don't wanna leave the house, maybe go to your room and lock the door. Keep yourself busy. These are some of the things I did to separate myself from a toxic family member. Going through this constant same old, same old can't be too good for your health. Gotta think about yourself for now, 'cause she sure as hell don't sound like she's thinking about your feelings. :/ Hope things will get better for you guys one day.. ------------------ "I hate fake people. You know what I'm talking about. Mannequins." ― Jarod Kintz ☺ IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24479 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2012 07:04 AM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 24479 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2012 07:04 AM
It would be one thing if I were going around trying to get in between the two of them, break them up, etc (like the cousin of someone here). I wasn't trying to do any of that. I knew she was in love, and that I would be here for her if anything bad happened. I'm tired of women lashing out so easily when it comes to this. I'm usually a lot better when it comes to understanding people's anxiety/insecurities/anger. Not at the moment. No effing way. You want to attack someone in front of me, and I'll say something - I will lash out in return. I have been consistently attacked, when the man was the problem - that's my problem. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24479 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2012 07:07 AM
Alma, they live apart half of the time - she lives here, and he lives up North. She's here and will be leaving next weekend, and I doubt she'll be here for my birthday. We argued again last night. I also expected someone else to remove me from Facebook last night, and it happened. Fine by me. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 24479 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2012 07:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: That sucks, Teasel. BTW, if anyone quotes, I will still be able to edit it out.
Thank you. I appreciate that. I only saw your responses today. My sister is usually great in just about every respect. Her problem with me is that I don't want to be around him in person - that I think he'll make another pass at me if he's around me, and she wants me to say that I'm wrong about him. I don't know that I am, because it ended up being a problem each time. So once again, I'm wrong and he's an angel, because she got over it, and I still haven't. She forgets that I didn't want to be around anyone, and that I've put off my own friends who have wanted to visit. I am in a very different place than I was a year ago, let alone two years ago, and I was in a bad way a year ago. this is not the time to be pushing boundaries. I am extremely depressed, and angry, as well as just plain lost. I'm going to delete these posts later, so thanks again Randall for the offer to delete any quoted parts. I literally almost walked away from everything last wednesday. I now know how some people end up homeless. I literally feel repulsive and empty, and if anyone else wants to take a whack at me, I just won't be around anymore. Thanks for letting me vent, and have a pity party. There is no advice for me. I'm just really tired of seeing people sh*t on each other, especially in the name of "love". IP: Logged |
Virgo-AriesArtist Knowflake Posts: 1296 From: MidWest :) Registered: Jun 2009
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posted March 13, 2012 08:49 AM
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teasel Knowflake Posts: 24479 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 13, 2012 10:27 AM
We just had another go-around.Again, I'm reminded of the fact that my relationship with her was never worth fighting for. I brought up an incident in which he was sober and was rude to me, but according to her, he was either drunk or it didn't happen. She couldn't stand up for me at any time, otherwise she would have lost him. I was expected to always be there, and just get over things. She's ordering me to get over it, calling me names, bringing up other things that have nothing to do with this fight, just to hurt me. At the moment, i think she's pathetic. consistently having to defend myself, when I'm not in the wrong, having to defend my feelings that are invalidated. Sisters, sisters.. never were there such devoted sisters. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 172599 From: I hold a Juris Doctorate (J.D.) and a Legum Magister (LL.M.)! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 17, 2012 02:03 PM
Just let me know what you want deleted.------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 17, 2012 02:43 PM
I did not know you were going through this Teasel. I am sorry!------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 74285 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted March 18, 2012 08:35 AM
I bet some asteroids like Medusa would show up in your and your sisters synastry. I bet Ixiion would be very strong. Medusa is an example and may not be there but I bet you anything Ixiion would be prominent. She may be hurting your Lilith somehow. I bet Hekate would be there as the shadow sides would be involved as things are not above board in your relationship. If you want me to look at this---post it in PR attention to me. Again, Teasel I am very sorry. You are a person I respect a lot and you don't deserve this garbage !------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 8945 From: Here since March 24th.2005/..& Have been Lexagramming going on 2/3 of a century to date! LEXIGRAMMING.♥is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted March 18, 2012 11:44 AM
teasel I wish I knew how to help. When I was 43 years old, I finally had to face the fact that I had to step away from my family. Their Rabid Christian and homophobic and racist over the top attitudes were never going to change. Add in their well to do to wealthy status and snobbery, and I am seen as a bug to them living in my 16K wreck of a house. I tried a few brief times to say hello, try again to connect with them, test the waters so to speak since then, but all that proved was it was time to totally sever ties with them.Just because they are family does not give them the right to use and abuse me. I am sad over what could have been but not over what was, which was not good for the most part, and some outright horrible to say the least. So again, I wish I knew what could help in your case, but I cannot think of what would be right for you. I wish you the best of luck teasel. {{{hugs}}}
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hippichick Knowflake Posts: 3396 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted March 18, 2012 06:23 PM
I am sorry Teasel...This society lends us to believe that blood is thicker than water, not always In answer to your topic question, alot, unfortunately ALOT of women are insecure. Many times a man will come between women without anything really happening, it is seen and experienced over and over. You have our support, you are the one in truth~ blessings t~~~ IP: Logged |