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Topic: Dissociate?
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Alma Sun
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posted April 25, 2012 12:44 PM
  
Anyone else have this problem? I've come to realize I do this quite a bit. Especially when someone, or a situation makes me feel uncomfortable. I completely detach.  Trying to stop is difficult too, because it's hard to control something that just comes on without me fully aware of it. Reading through the list, some of the things I can relate to are: quote:
• a sense of detachment from your emotions
• the impression of watching a movie of yourself
• feeling detached from the world
• feeling that a customary environment is unfamiliar
• feeling like a stranger to yourself
Complete list & info can be found here: http://www.mind.org.uk/help/diagnoses_and_conditions/dissociative_disorders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociation_%28psychology%29 Can't relate to the rest of the list though, I guess those are the more severe symptoms. This explains it pretty well: quote:
Depersonalization disorder is marked by a feeling of detachment or distance from one's own experience, body, or self. These feelings of depersonalization are recurrent. Of the dissociative disorders, depersonalization is the one most easily identified with by the general public; one can easily relate to feeling as they are in a dream, or being "spaced out."
http://nami.org/content/contentgroups/helpline1/dissociative_disorders.htm
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Ami Anne
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posted April 25, 2012 12:56 PM
I have had this since I was 14. I went into a fog, you could say.I couldn't get out.I am doing it, now. I think one has to cry in order to get out of the fog. The right brain has shut down, one could say to really simplify it. Pain and trauma is stored in the right brain. No amount of talk therapy or intellectual understanding will make the fog go away. The left side of the brain is the intellectual side.
IMO, the cure for this is in the book "Cure By Crying" by Thomas Stone.------------------
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Faith
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posted April 25, 2012 06:30 PM
This sounds like it could also work as an asset. I don't have it at all, I'm always very present within myself...but to be conscious without identifying with one's self or ego...can't that actually be beneficial?IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted April 25, 2012 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
This sounds like it could also work as an asset. I don't have it at all, I'm always very present within myself...but to be conscious without identifying with one's self or ego...can't that actually be beneficial?
I personally don't let me emotions control me, though they do advise me. As a result a few have thought I was dissociative, though I personally disagree. To me someone dissociated are alienated from their feelings and (to some extent) their experiences (and I think I've done that in particularly traumatic experiences, where I "went away" until things were better or at least I was able to do something about it). Therefore, I don't think it's beneficial save the most extreme circumstances, and people can learn to control their emotions (which isn't the same as deciding exactly what you feel but rather how you act on them) without becoming alienated from themselves. As to how to do that there were techniques (including self-hypnosis) to become more aware of what I was feeling at every level of my being while remaining lucid (that is not overwhelmed by any one feeling or passion), and some self-defense courses I've taken (a couple of women-oriented ones and also Krav Maga) also teach how to overcome things like debilitating fear (not to be confused with "to not be afraid when you're in danger" but rather "make your fear work for you instead of against you"). IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 25, 2012 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Faith:
This sounds like it could also work as an asset. I don't have it at all, I'm always very present within myself...but to be conscious without identifying with one's self or ego...can't that actually be beneficial?
It feels awful as if you live in a permanent novacaine. ------------------
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Alma Sun
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posted April 26, 2012 01:40 PM
First I wanted to say thank you all for your responses (Faith, Pixie) and sharing your experience (Ami). I really appreciate it.  @ Faith, yeah I think it can be a positive thing. But not in every situation. For example, in a social setting, it makes it difficult to connect with others. It's a killing of the personality and you end up feeling like a robot.
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Alma Sun
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posted April 26, 2012 01:40 PM
That's a good analogy, Ami. ------------------
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Faith
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posted April 26, 2012 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Alma Sun:
First I wanted to say thank you all for your responses (Faith, Pixie) and sharing your experience (Ami). I really appreciate it. @ Faith, yeah I think it can be a positive thing. But not in every situation. For example, in a social setting, it makes it difficult to connect with others. It's a killing of the personality and you end up feeling like a robot.
Oh my goodness. That sounds really, really bad! Sorry to hear you and Ami have to deal with it.  I would hate that. I hope you can overcome it somehow. Pixie Jane: Thanks very much for your clarification. 'Makes sense to me now.
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Ami Anne
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posted April 26, 2012 05:27 PM
I am overcoming, Faith. Thank you.------------------
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posted April 28, 2012 04:25 AM
Been there baby girl.  & still go there sometimes...It's common with people who've gone through trauma of some sort, especially, but not exclusively. (((big hugs))) to you  IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
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posted April 28, 2012 02:22 PM
Don't be, Faith.  It's just another thing to learn about and I'm glad I realize it now. And thank you for your kind words! ((T)) <- Is that how you do hugs around here? 'Cause you just got HUGGED!  Love ya lady.  You're a fighter for sure, Ami. ------------------
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Linda Jones
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posted April 29, 2012 07:17 PM
I've never experienced disassociation to any degree and my heart goes out to anyone who does as it's clearly in response to past trauma. I general, I wonder if (for those who do experience it) anger is the easiest emotion to show (if at all)? In those who have PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), anger seems to be the more easily and frequently expressed emotion. I wonder if it's the same in disassociation? Thank you. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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posted April 29, 2012 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by Linda Jones:
I wonder if (for those who do experience it) anger is the easiest emotion to show (if at all)? In those who have PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder), anger seems to be the more easily and frequently expressed emotion. I wonder if it's the same in disassociation?
I'd say no because I think disassociation is removing one's self emotionally (even mentally so that memory is affected) from the sitch and thus one's feelings about it. PTSD, OTOH, which I have (though no incidents of note in years so perhaps I'm over it) is very different. Fear for one's survival gets the adrenaline going, and adrenaline creates anger (even rage) and the fight/flight instinct (which has its purpose in an actual life threatening sitch, but not in daily life as PTSD tends to bring it into). I suppose the difference is that in disassociation you escape by "going away" (so you feel nothing) but in PTSD you "go to a specific event" that has scarred your mind and burned an imprint of the trauma on you so that all the feelings appropriate for the traumatic event (such as anger) come flooding back when it's triggered. IP: Logged |
Linda Jones
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posted April 29, 2012 11:20 PM
^^Thanks PixieJane, for explaining the difference. I appreciate it. IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
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posted April 30, 2012 01:22 AM
^ What Linda J said. Thanks Pixie.------------------
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posted May 01, 2012 04:03 PM
listening to this just reminded me of you....er this thread....or us. .... all of the above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mf2ethjFJ4 ((( ))) IP: Logged |
Alma Sun
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posted May 02, 2012 10:27 AM
Saved to my youtube!   ------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted May 02, 2012 01:31 PM
That is fantastic, Alma------------------
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