posted July 07, 2012 11:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Venus:
imo a nice lecture on STDs with illustrations should do the trick.. i mean have you ever seen the symptoms of gonorrhea in a picture? genital warts, HPV all very serious infections and quite disgusting yikh..

also i believe giving the option of abortion is a must, these girls are not ready to raise people..

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posted July 07, 2012 11:36 AM            

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Originally posted by SpooL:

Parents fault for not disciplining and educating there children, some a$$kicking is required just as long it doesn't get out of hand.

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I don't think education and discipline equal having to beat their children though I do believe many parents just aren't involved enough in the lives of their children.

My mother got married and pregnant at the age of 17 to escape her jerk of a father who believed in "a$$kicking".

posted July 07, 2012 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
We have comprehensive sex education here. But the sending-your-kid-home-with-condoms thing...

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Aquacheeka,

posted July 08, 2012 01:26 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:
We have comprehensive sex education here.....

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Towards a certain degree its effective, from what I last read Quebec is the only province with a higher teen birth rate in Canada.

Keep in mind it also has the most affordable daycare and families are granted more support to have children.

A lot of the people I work with are from Gatineau, Que. I swear if you pass by there cubicles/offices you'll see family pictures and realize there average family is slightly larger to the typical Canadian family size.

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:

I don't think education and discipline equal having to beat [b]their children though I do believe many parents just aren't involved enough in the lives of their children.

My mother got married and pregnant at the age of 17 to escape her jerk of a father who believed in "a$$kicking".

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I don't entirely agree with YoursTrulyAlways idea of just beating sh*t out of the child merciless, without getting to the core of the problem.

I had a Spanish classmate who would just randomly got beaten up by his dad in the most extreme ways.

For example when he got a bad report card, instead of fixing the reason why he got bad grades his father just beat him.

The proper way would be to get involved with childs homework and teach the child to study and than if things don't improve discipline could be used.

That was just an example of a struggling student.

The same approach should be for other things.

Parents need to be more involved in there lives, to set/teach the right path early on
and correct when needed.

Of course because society had gone so downhill I doubt education and discipline can work.

posted July 08, 2012 09:44 AM            

Are you a patent?

Why would you over dramatize discipline?

My wife happens to be more conservative than I am, and the fact of the matter is that we have a son who is a stellar success in pretty much whatever he does. I'm not going to list everything because it gets long and tedious.

posted July 09, 2012 05:25 PM            

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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
SpooL,

Are you a patent?

Why would you over dramatize discipline?

My wife happens to be more conservative than I am, and the fact of the matter is that we have a son who is a stellar success in pretty much whatever he does. I'm not going to list everything because it gets long and tedious.

The difference between us and others is that we behave like parents but never portend to be friends with our children. Our primary responsibility is to be parents.

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Everyone is entitled to there own opinion and in rare cases it does get out of control, a rarity but it does occur.

I have no disagreement with how you raise your children, you can raise your children as much as you please.

I will agree on one thing you said which is correct parents aren't friends, the role of a parent is to turn there children into
fully functioning and capable adults.

posted July 09, 2012 05:52 PM            

if a person can make his children good adults by giving them harsh discipline then so be it

and if a parent is capable to be friends with his children and they still come out alright then he is still a good parent

usually when you hear about family problems they usually have lousy parents and not lousy methods

a good parent may be strict a bad one abusive
a good parent might be friendly a bad one neglecting

posted July 09, 2012 11:05 PM            

Having said that, I'm a strict parent. "Kicking his butt" is figurative and not literal! But how else does a kid accomplish if the parents don't push a bit and hover a bit, just out of affection and concern?!

I said I wouldn't brag, but it's hard not to. Three instruments, with two at the concert level, a 3.9 GPA, five APs, five languages, equestrian, etc. something to be proud as a kid and as parents!

Most of all, he's well mannered, does not curse, has never drinked, has never had sex, respects his mom and is God respecting.

posted July 10, 2012 02:51 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
i tend to think spanking is neccesary to get a kid to mind, i think taking spanking out of school was the biggest mistake ever made, as anyone can see kids have gotten a bit out of hand. When i was in elementary school all the teachers had to do was brandish the paddle at us to get us to behave, now they cant do that.

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personally i think that its up to the parent to discipline his child and not strangers (especially that todays classes have 35-40 students in one class...at least in my country)

i mean...if you heard your kid was hit by someone in school you wouldnt say to him "you probably did something to deserve it"

posted July 13, 2012 08:12 AM            

Kids generally care about other things. Sure, they want to avoid getting paddled (though my cousin took a perverse pride in withstanding it and once told the teacher who was going to paddle him to make sure he felt it this time and when asked after if he felt that he answered, "Felt what?" ), but they generally care about other things a lot more and will focus more on possible rewards than possible punishments (that's just how their brains are wired).

Though my granny did tell me that she got really angry with her principal and shot him in the back with her slingshot (she said back in her day kids would play with knives on the playground, sometimes even throwing them at each others feet, so her slingshot went without notice and were a fad at the time) which got her paddled by the principal and then whipped when she got home (but no one took away her slingshot or told her she couldn't take it to school anymore). She did say that stopped her from doing it again...until she got offered a ride to California with some beatniks (she was 15) and she said sure, she just wanted to do one thing and before she left she beaned her principal with a slung stone and ran off. She told me she'd have never done it if she didn't have a ride out of the state immediately after, but even as a grandmother that memory brings her a lot of pleasure.

posted July 13, 2012 04:01 PM            

I think its down to the economy, people dont have jobs and have more free time, they bored, so they **** .

posted July 13, 2012 04:53 PM            

My mom raised me and my brothers by herself, was strict as hell, and punished us when we stepped out of line. When I was a teenager she threatened to kill me if I got pregnant. It was too drastic of a threat for me because I had no intentions having a child at such a young age.

There's no one way to prevent teenagers from having sex, contracting an std, or getting pregnant. There are parents who are strict, bending, neglectful, and abusive who have all become grandparents too soon. You can watch them like a hawk or provide them with condoms and birth control, but if it's what they want to do they're going to do it and sometimes won't remember anything about safe sex. It all boils down to the kid.

Kids who have consensual sex at a young age are hardly any different from promiscuous adults. They're all looking for something they're not or didn't get in their formative years.

posted July 14, 2012 09:01 PM            

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