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Topic: People Who Can Not Ever Admit They are Wrong
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 09, 2012 04:35 PM
Why?Why to they twist and turn, project and make others to blame? Why can't they realize when they ARE wrong and aplolgize? Why do they get so defensive and run, cause they are not wrong? Uggggg! IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 716 From: uranus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 09, 2012 04:39 PM
narcissists : cluster b personality disorderIP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 09, 2012 04:53 PM
Yep, my studies and analysis have thus diagnosed the individual as this so far.. (( How to deal? There is no reasoning, I think, just run? IP: Logged |
Sorcha Knowflake Posts: 666 From: Registered: Mar 2012
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posted November 09, 2012 05:11 PM
I think it usually has to do with shame issues. Shame is a pretty powerful motivator and so if it comes up in relation to being right (or wrong) then I would guess that is why the person is 'running'.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38289 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 09, 2012 05:24 PM
Some people have to have a perfect facade. You have to run away because if you poke it, the flipping devil is underneath ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4586 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 09, 2012 06:16 PM
I know its a struggle for me.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4586 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted November 09, 2012 06:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by mercuranian: narcissists : cluster b personality disorder
I have trouble accepting criticism but I don't think its because I'm a narcist, I think it has to do with being criticized so much as a child IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38289 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 09, 2012 06:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: I have trouble accepting criticism but I don't think its because I'm a narcist, I think it has to do with being criticized so much as a child
You are humble. We are not talking about a humble person, here
------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2047 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted November 09, 2012 08:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by hippichick: Why?Why to they twist and turn, project and make others to blame? Why can't they realize when they ARE wrong and aplolgize? Why do they get so defensive and run, cause they are not wrong? Uggggg!
Some people have a problem with accepting their wrongs and/or blaming others for a number of reasons: not having to be accountable for their actions in the past, being coddled by others too much in their life even when they have been wrong, out of a sense of protecting them. For other people it is really a matter of pride, some people are very fixated in their ways and refuse to accept a alternative way of handling things because they have been conditioned and molded into a certain set of behavioral actions and responses. For others it involves lacking depth, they lack the ability notice their negative personality traits then again that could just be a result of being conditioned that way by their environment. IP: Logged |
lilithpluto Knowflake Posts: 1524 From: pluto Registered: Dec 2011
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posted November 10, 2012 01:14 AM
the first thought that came to my mind for these ppl is: they don't want to be responsible for the mistake they made so they refuse to admit they are wrong. Typical of irresponsible ppl. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38289 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 10, 2012 09:45 AM
This type of person is not "trying to be a jerk". They just have a mask of perfection which is stuck on.They will destroy anyone who shows a peek of their real self. You just have to walk away. I have learned that, through experience. I offer that to you, but most people have to learn these lessons through touching the fire ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38289 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 10, 2012 10:04 AM
Bottom line You have to realize that a lot of people have deep issues. You will get burned but you can learn about your own bad nature from seeing theirs. We, all, have a bad nature. It is how much you face it that matters. Those who won't face theirs project on other people. That is the nature of human beings. Love you, Terri. ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 10, 2012 10:21 AM
Thank you, Ami.And that is what it is all about for me. Learning my soul's progression, why I always fall for it, why I learn and fall for it again. I stumbeled onto an old thread here, researching in general yesterday, and I cant find it now, but a very wise one said that narcissist, in particular, project onto others cause they despise themselves, but they are not aware they despise (themselves.) Yes, if one does look one just might discover a devil, but in discovering we may see the devil in ourselves, which I have seen more than once in me. And I acknowledge it. Each experience, each progression brings me closer to me and creates me a new me. Thank you all for your posts... !!!! Love you, too, Ami!!! IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 10, 2012 10:27 AM
You know, I was thinking earlier, as well, that in all situations, I redily admit when I am wrong.Especially in the work place, if I get reprimanded, I dont make excuses (I used to) I just look at the individual and say I am sorry I was wrong I will do better next time.. I find that people are taken aback when somebody admits they are wrong. Maybe that is half of my problem with it... sigh,,, learning~ t~~~ IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38289 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 10, 2012 10:28 AM
quote: Originally posted by hippichick: Thank you, Ami.And that is what it is all about for me. Learning my soul's progression, why I always fall for it, why I learn and fall for it again. I stumbled onto an old thread here, researching in general yesterday, and I cant find it now, but a very wise one said that narcissist, in particular, project onto others cause they despise themselves, but they are not aware they despise (themselves.) Yes, if one does look one just might discover a devil, but in discovering we may see the devil in ourselves, which I have seen more than once in me. And I acknowledge it. Each experience, each progression brings me closer to me and creates me a new me. Thank you all for your posts... !!!! Love you, too, Ami!!!
You are very welcome, Hippi. Thank YOU for your friendship. The key is to face all the dark parts of ourselves. The people with the masks will not do this. Hence, they wreak havoc on other people. However, they are our teachers. Our enemies can teach us more than our friends, so we should be grateful ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 10, 2012 10:55 AM
Will get back to each of you when not at work~Little brother is watching, IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 716 From: uranus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 10, 2012 11:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: This type of person is not "trying to be a jerk". They just have a mask of perfection which is stuck on.They will destroy anyone who shows a peek of their real self. You just have to walk away. I have learned that, through experience. I offer that to you, but most people have to learn these lessons through touching the fire
exactly, this ^
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 10, 2012 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: This type of person is not "trying to be a jerk". They just have a mask of perfection which is stuck on.They will destroy anyone who shows a peek of their real self. You just have to walk away. I have learned that, through experience. I offer that to you, but most people have to learn these lessons through touching the fire
and I will that as well!!! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38289 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted November 10, 2012 02:28 PM
Yes, there is no pristine way to learn ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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starzy54 Knowflake Posts: 450 From: CA Registered: Feb 2010
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posted November 10, 2012 06:52 PM
My grandfather is this way, I've known him my whole life (nearly 26 years) and i have yet to ever hear him say he was wrong, or " I am sorry". The family is just expected to take all the bashing, verbal abuse and undeserved blame for all the mistakes HE makes. He has never admitted fault to anything and when someone is 76 years old, there really is no room for teaching them any different. He's been enabled for years before i was born, and im not about to go out and seek to change this man, but i believe one day he will have to answer and admit to his faults by a higher power. Only God can deal with a person like him! I must sound like a bad granddaughter talking about an elderly man this way, but thats the way things play out in my family. IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 716 From: uranus Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 10, 2012 08:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by starzy54: My grandfather is this way, I've known him my whole life (nearly 26 years) and i have yet to ever hear him say he was wrong, or " I am sorry". The family is just expected to take all the bashing, verbal abuse and undeserved blame for all the mistakes HE makes. He has never admitted fault to anything and when someone is 76 years old, there really is no room for teaching them any different. He's been enabled for pyears before i was born, and im not about to go out and seek to change this man, but i believe one day he will have to answer and admit to his faults by a higher power. Only God can deal with a person like him! I must sound like a bad granddaughter talking about an elderly man this way, but thats the way things play out in my family.
this sounds exactly like my 76 year old father (who i no longer speak to). my mother is next. IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 14, 2012 09:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by lilithpluto: the first thought that came to my mind for these ppl is: they don't want to be responsible for the mistake they made so they refuse to admit they are wrong. Typical of irresponsible ppl.
I agree, and when one gets into "diagnosing" and axis II lots of things come into play!
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hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 14, 2012 09:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by ail221: Some people have a problem with accepting their wrongs and/or blaming others for a number of reasons: not having to be accountable for their actions in the past, being coddled by others too much in their life even when they have been wrong, out of a sense of protecting them. For other people it is really a matter of pride, some people are very fixated in their ways and refuse to accept a alternative way of handling things because they have been conditioned and molded into a certain set of behavioral actions and responses. For others it involves lacking depth, they lack the ability notice their negative personality traits then again that could just be a result of being conditioned that way by their environment.
Good take! Thank you...Yes our childhood upbringings do come into play~ IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 14, 2012 09:50 AM
quote: Originally posted by Sorcha: I think it usually has to do with shame issues. Shame is a pretty powerful motivator and so if it comes up in relation to being right (or wrong) then I would guess that is why the person is 'running'.
Or not even being self aware enough and running from "something." Yes, running is easy..sticking it out is not. thank you! IP: Logged |
hippichick Moderator Posts: 2016 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted November 14, 2012 09:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by starzy54: My grandfather is this way, I've known him my whole life (nearly 26 years) and i have yet to ever hear him say he was wrong, or " I am sorry". The family is just expected to take all the bashing, verbal abuse and undeserved blame for all the mistakes HE makes. He has never admitted fault to anything and when someone is 76 years old, there really is no room for teaching them any different. He's been enabled for years before i was born, and im not about to go out and seek to change this man, but i believe one day he will have to answer and admit to his faults by a higher power. Only God can deal with a person like him! I must sound like a bad granddaughter talking about an elderly man this way, but thats the way things play out in my family.
I am really beginning to think people dont see their faults, the probably case with my particular individual. And that is where a personality disorder comes into play. Nothing of anything we ever do will allow them to see their faults. t~ IP: Logged |