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Randall
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posted December 12, 2012 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Found this article. Do you agree or disagree? Why? Here it is:

When you talk to some women,
they’ll swear up and down that
when it comes to love and attraction,
money doesn’t matter . . .

That what they really want is a guy
with a good heart, who’s faithful
and kind and that they’d be happy
with a guy who was totally poor
if the love they had was pure.

And . . .

Well, according to science,
they’d be lying.

There was a study a while
ago where scientists took a
bunch of pictures of guys
and asked groups of women
how attractive they were.

They had pictures of square
jawed models, pictures of skinny-necked
nerds, guys in suits, fit guys, fat
guys, feminine guys . . .

You, know, a whole bunch of guys.

And they had the women
“grade” the guys on attractiveness
like we were sides of beef or something.

The first group of women graded the
guys purely on physical appearance
with no other information about them.

So the “handsome” guys got
9’s and 10’s while the “less handsome”
guys got 5’s and 6’s.

But then the scientists got sneaky:

Underneath the photo of each guy they
put a little information. Nothing much,
just a name and an occupation.

So suddenly instead of just a picture
of a guy with cheekbones that could cut
marble you had a picture of a guy with
cheekbones that could cut marble
with the words “Pizza Boy” or “CEO”
under it.

They did this for all the guys and
had a BUNCH of women go through
the whole process.

And what they found again
and again was that the women
(without even realizing they
were doing it) would grade guys
with “good” careers (and higher
incomes) as actually being
BETTER looking than guys
with “bad” careers.

So let’s take our guy
with the crazy sharp cheekbones . . .

To the group of women who didn’t
get ANY career info, he averaged
out as an 8.

To the group of women who were
told he was a powerful CEO he
was a 9.

To the group of women who were
told he was a Pizza Boy, he was a 6.

And here’s the weird thing:

It’s not that these women were being
“gold diggers” or anything like that.

It’s that they were legitimately MORE
attracted to the guy knowing
that he had his sh*t together
and could be a good provider.

Remember, when it comes to judging
if a guy is dating (or marrying or even
bedding) material, status means
a LOT to women.

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posted December 12, 2012 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
some do, some dont. my mom isnt one that does, she turned down a guy with a million dollar beach house, i was like d*mnit mom! lol

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posted December 12, 2012 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghanima81     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I actually started dating my last BF after he lost his job LOL

That being said, I won't be doing that again. Not because it makes a person less attractive, or that I wouldn't care about them as much, love them as much BUT, and this is blunt and maybe brutal honesty, it DOES matter. You don't have to be a millionaire, that's for sure, but being able to provide for yourself is important. I'm a professional, single mother with a house that takes care of herself. I don't NEED anything financially from a man. BUT, I can't provide him financial security so if he can't provide his own, I'm not the girl for him.

Money is one of the MAIN reasons couples fight, and a leading cause of divorce. Going into a dating situation with somebody that already has money problems is just setting yourself up to fail. Man or woman. I'm sure this would also work with men looking at pictures of women.

Sorry if that's harsh, but it's true.

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posted December 12, 2012 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Money doesn't matter so much....their potential to make & be self sufficient does. I don't want to financially care for a man....I would like us to be on equal ground. But of course, that would make him poor as dirt if I had to abide by that at this time...lol

As long as he has his own & can maintain it, that's all that matters.

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posted December 12, 2012 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not so much money but prestige, for me.

I am interested in what a man does (who he is), not what he makes. As long as he can support himself (i.e. pay half the rent) and has enough disposable income to take me to dinner and the movies once a week, I'm happy. Finding a "provider" isn't essential when you don't want kids. Women like me tend to focus far more on sex appeal than earning potential.

What I mean by that though is that I am not going to lie, I like being with a man that has a cool job title. My man is a massage therapist. His first year after he graduated college he made 9 grand. A pizza guy literally would have made more. But I would not care because "pizza guy" isn't sexy, whereas "massage therapist" IS. Same goes for "grocery store manager" (hey, those guys can make a nice chunk o' change), vs. "artist." If the 'accountant' makes more in dollar value than the 'venture capitalist,' I'd still rather date the 'venture capitalist' because accountant is comparably boring. Given the choice, I choose job description/title over actual earnings everytime. I am probably weird that way, though.

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posted December 12, 2012 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It depends there are a lot different things to look at statistically. Percentage wise more people grow up in households with a single parents and most of the time its the mother raising the children. Even if that isn't the case were both parents were present and contributing to the household income if the family itself wasn't well off they may have experienced the struggle of not having much financially. The age group of the women is another important factor any woman over the age of 24 will obviously pick a male with a successful career/stable economic background over a pretty face. Lastly educational background of the women, the more educated a woman becomes the more likely she'd want someone who is her equal education wise. Of course we know not all "extreme success stories" have a incredible educational background.

Plus the prominent social-norms in most cultures places men in the position of the bread winner of the household.

edit to add I prefer stability and education over a billion possibilities that will never come true.

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posted December 12, 2012 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Definitely some. But...assuming that study is real and not another urban legend...there are other factors that could explain it such as an aura of power (and a CEO definitely is about clout whereas a pizza delivery guy is not). Some women (and at least a few men) get off on that, one reason authoritarian uniforms sell so well at sex shops as they can be to many woman as lingerie (or cheerleading or skimpy school girl uniform) is to many men.

But my mom would definitely be attracted to money. OTOH more than one relative (female) has told me that "it's just as easy to fall in love with a rich guy as a poor guy" which implies that it's just as easy to fall in love with a poor guy as a rich guy and therefore limiting one's option to guys with money was a strategy rather than instinct (and it may be entirely strategic to my mom rather than she'd automatically be more attracted).

Of course, "pizza boy" sounds so boring, too. I'd be curious what affect "clown" or "firefighter" would have which probably pays as well but sounds a lot more interesting. Heck, LOTS of failing musicians have no problems finding women, and as the old joke goes, "What do you call a musician who broke up with his girlfriend? Homeless."

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posted December 12, 2012 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Money is attractive, but so is a good face. I'd date a hot guy regardless of occupation.

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posted December 12, 2012 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What ghani said.

If he can't take care of himself and we are of age now, then he won't be able to take care of me or a family if need be.

I'm not taking care of a grown man ever again!

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posted December 12, 2012 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I used to think it mattered but I think it matters more to me than who I attract.

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posted December 12, 2012 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have turned down dating and a few marriage proposals from wealthy to millionaires.
The person matters not their status and looks.
Shallowness is repulsive to me.

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posted December 12, 2012 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaturnineMoth     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ambition/realistic goals and mutual respect & support
outrank the need for wealth/greed & vanity
in my ideal mate.

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posted December 12, 2012 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
some do, some dont. my mom isnt one that does, she turned down a guy with a million dollar beach house, i was like d*mnit mom! lol



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posted December 12, 2012 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The study seems designed to show that women are either so interested in looks that a man's livehood doesn't matter, or she is so interested in his money that his looks and style don't matter.

The gals who took the test were damned either way.

(Oh and it's not like men wouldn't rank a pretty heiress over a pretty woman who busses tables at Pizza Hut, right?)


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posted December 12, 2012 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
"What do you call a musician who broke up with his girlfriend? Homeless."

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posted December 12, 2012 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faith:
The study seems designed to show that women are either so interested in looks that a man's livehood doesn't matter, or she is so interested in his money that his looks and style don't matter.

The gals who took the test were damned either way.

(Oh and it's not like men wouldn't rank a pretty heiress over a pretty woman who busses tables at Pizza Hut, right?)


Just what I was thinking.

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posted December 12, 2012 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
(Oh and it's not like men wouldn't rank a pretty heiress over a pretty woman who busses tables at Pizza Hut, right?)


I personally would go for the pretty heiress because a lot of men are intimidated by that. Fortune favors the bold.

Idk.. The test seems too controlled for attraction.. What if pizza boy, cheekbones, sang like devandra banhart? / shrug

..and there are many CEOs that started out as pizza boys. We're they not suspicious a young kid could be CEO?

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posted December 13, 2012 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Quote from wife: "My mama didn't raise me to marry some broke a$$ living in a shack and riding in a jalopy."

I would like to believe that she wouldn't have paid me two seconds of attention if I weren't where I was in life relative to my age group at the time I met her. Musician? Sure. Maybe if I were Yo Yo Ma or Lang Lang. She ain't waiting for no pizza delivery boy to become CEO, that's for sure. To be fair, she has a Masters degree and has expectations that most women don't have.

It may be that a lot... or most... women don't care about money. The ones that I do like and flock to me pretty much all do, to some extent.

That's all I have to say about that.

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posted December 13, 2012 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Musician? Sure. Maybe if I were Yo Yo Ma or Lang Lang.

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posted December 13, 2012 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tyically, men don't care what a girl's occupation is.

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posted December 13, 2012 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Randall:
Tyically, men don't care what a girl's occupation is.


I'll agree with that, but I ain't dating strippers unless I'm so rich and famous like a flamboyant Richard Branson or Larry Ellison that I don't care what anyone thinks. Lol

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posted December 13, 2012 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i care what a woman makes..... she has to make enough to support the both of us. i want to be a stay at home dad. women who dont have their sh*t together need not apply.

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posted December 13, 2012 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Cruisin' for bruisin'

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posted December 13, 2012 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
^^ Cruisin' for bruisin'

oh i forgot, she better buy me a dishwasher and help with housework .

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posted December 13, 2012 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
oh i forgot, she better buy me a dishwasher and help with housework .

While you're making up that list, why not wash your truck, mow the lawn, take out the garbage, pick up the dog poop and shine your shoes as well?

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