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Topic: Tulpa and Sex
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PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3389
From: CA
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posted December 14, 2012 12:03 AM
  
First, I want to define what I mean by tulpa according to my training and brief experience: a tulpa is a created astral form that can, with a lot of effort, become quasi-real (some of the lore I've read claims they can even become close enough to real that they're able to interact with everyday people, even touch them). A tulpa is created much like an astral body, but is more programmed so in a sense it's a mix of an astral hologram (some would call it a "thought form") and robot, but left to its own devices it eventually becomes sentient (that is aware of its own existence and starting to think for itself), and given that it's essentially made or shaped by the the soul of the creator (though perhaps influenced by astrology at the moment of its creation and/or when it becomes sentient) it could, in a sense, be thought of as an asexual offspring. I've found that some people like to create tulpas with the idea of having sex with them (not to say this is the sole reason, though I think in at least a few cases it is). I also recall reading of one man who created one that he had to destroy as it had become very perverse sexually and started to molest others (a teacher I had said it had likely become an outlet for the suppressed/repressed sexual desires of its monk creator). Some even believe it helps tulpas to grow while others believe it corrupts them and turns them into incubi/succubi that eventually afflict others. Is anyone here knowledgeable or experienced on this? What I'm curious about is why are some tulpas sexual and others not? Does repressed sexuality by its creator make it more likely for them to be or is such an entity more likely to become sexual if sexual energy is used in its creation? Or does it simply come across sexual energy and become intrigued by its vibration? Or would it just see sex as a way to bond? Or could it be a means to suck more energy out for its existence? Do tulpas have anything like orgasm (either comparable to ours or just find the energy intoxicating to be a part of)? And...the one I'm really curious about...has any tulpa been known to become jealous of any other lovers? (I have a very vague memory of reading of a tulpa that drove away any human lovers of its creator, preferring to be the only sexual partner.) My primary interest is to try to understand tulpa psychology, though the sexual manifestations is what I'm most curious about at the moment. One of the fics I'm working on is getting into this territory and I have a strong feeling that I have to proceed cautiously or I'll screw the whole story up...normally the story flows through me but now my direction is getting very conflicted and I think some info on this could be very helpful. Thanks.  PS: and I'd also be curious about any connections between the tulpa and the simulacrum (such as the golem, essentially the idea of imbuing a physical form with a spirit) in either occult lore or (well thought out) speculative fiction (I know one series assumed golems were actually tulpas put into physical bodies created for them out of clay, wood, or metal). IP: Logged |
RedScorp
Knowflake Posts: 4934
From: The Sun
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 14, 2012 12:46 AM
Two things I want and will probably never have:
-a tulpa
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-a mind palaceIP: Logged |
ail221
Moderator Posts: 3899
From: Hanging Gardens of Babylon
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 14, 2012 08:54 AM
Sounds a bit like a human generated succubi.IP: Logged |
PhoenixFire
Knowflake Posts: 1388
From: The Crossing
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 14, 2012 10:29 PM
Yes was going to say that too. Sounds like a succubi/incubus. I've heard accounts of some people keeping a bound incubus/succubi for sexual release/entertainment. Not always out of repression, some are just attracted to spirit/astral realms. It has been said that an incubus/succubbi should be kept w firm understanding of boundaries, as some could become jealous of the keeper's human sexual partners and wreak havoc. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3389
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 14, 2012 11:25 PM
I must admit this is very much of a surprise. I've only read a small percentage of LL threads and yet I've seen numerous references to obscure occult topics (from alien heritages to shapeshifting lizards to the bloodline of Jesus) and many references to things like Hermetic philosophy, so I assumed plenty here would know what a tulpa was (keeping in mind that different occult traditions tend to bicker on the specifics, or use different names for it, a "thought form" being a common term for it). Anyway, this explains what tulpas are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulpa Ah well, I will try to find a new message board to ask about tulpas, I just hope I can find one that will allow the topic of tulpa sexuality (and if I manage then I'll hope I don't get flooded with X-rated stories that are ultimately uninformative porn). IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 4039
From: vodka fine, I'm so divine
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 15, 2012 01:34 AM
I thought that tulpas were a projection from the conscious, and later, the subconscious mind? That you can interact (ie have sex) with one because your mind changes what your body perceives, or rather, tricks itself into perceiving the action (having sex, feeling pleasure). It takes a life of its own because it's an "entity" that works from your subconscious mind, thus is independent from your control aka conscious mind.This is the first I've heard of it being an "astral" body, formed by the soul of the progenitor.  I won't lie, but I'm doubtful of that. I read that tulpas can remember and recall like, anything since your mind stores everything it ever perceives, but your conscious mind can only access a teeny fraction of all that data. IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer
Moderator Posts: 3512
From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion!
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 15, 2012 02:02 AM
Great topic!  IP: Logged |
PhoenixFire
Knowflake Posts: 1388
From: The Crossing
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 15, 2012 04:59 AM
Hmmm never have held on to a thought form (knowingly) for long. From my practice, visualize the intent/thought form and then give it an expiration time. Was confused thinking of an entity sexual companion. Don't quite see a thought form as a separate entity, but as a projection. Fascinating topic, not certain if a thought form would really experience as one does in relations, as it is a projection (in my humble opinion). Out of curiosity, have you worked w tulpas after the pippi creation? Far as I know, I've never created a thought form to last beyond the duration of intended manifestation. Did you intend to create the tulpa or did it arise spontaneously? IP: Logged |
sand
Knowflake Posts: 10270
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Registered: May 2011
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posted December 15, 2012 08:16 AM
It sounds like a second clitoris.  IP: Logged |
sand
Knowflake Posts: 10270
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posted December 15, 2012 08:18 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RedScorp:
...things I want and will probably never have:
-a tulpa
Especially in this context. IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3389
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 15, 2012 06:24 PM
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PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3389
From: CA
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posted December 15, 2012 06:40 PM
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PhoenixFire
Knowflake Posts: 1388
From: The Crossing
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 15, 2012 08:18 PM
Very fascinating, yes please do post any relevant findings. Do you practice magic on a traditional path or more eclectic? I've never attempted to create a tulpa, the astral realm is interesting but also frightening when one is not sufficiently experienced. Have you ever worked with spirits or entities (dijjinn, demons, etc)? So far I've only worked w direct ancestral spirits, finding the blood ties to be comforting and wonderful in reinforcing magic. Not keen on working with demons, though a few of my acquaintances have formed positive relationships with a few. Tulpa creation def sounds like something which should be attempted after much study for best results. I'm imaging the havoc creating a tulpa would have when one is not aware of how to absorb it back again. Do you know if it is possible for a tulpa to attach to its creator and drain him/her as a demon may do? IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 4039
From: vodka fine, I'm so divine
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted December 16, 2012 07:16 PM
quote:
in a world of urban fantasy where magic is much stronger,
Oh, that makes more sense! Good luck with it!  IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Moderator Posts: 3389
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted December 16, 2012 08:30 PM
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PhoenixFire
Knowflake Posts: 1388
From: The Crossing
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 16, 2012 10:40 PM
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