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Topic: Masculinity/Femininity
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 2983 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2012 10:39 PM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: ^ That's not meant to ask for further clarification from you, but more to indicate that *I* have a difficult time with Masculine v Feminine.
Well I think that's interesting in itself!  To me, there is a kind of brute-force strength particular to women...I don't think women are "acting like men" when we express this. In a macrobiotic cookbook I have, the author talks about a philosophy in which men's external strength is matched by women's internal strength. Like yin and yang, but I can't remember the details. Anyway, I know a lot of women are the "rock" in their relationships. A lot of women who seem submissive are actually controlling much more than meets the eye. So that's a little complex. Still I think that there a lot of personality adjectives generally regarded as feminine, i.e. sweet, supportive, agreeable, demure. And for men: protective, competent, decisive. Both sets of adjectives are unisex but that's the best I can think of right now. Much easier to talk about physique, where brawn is manly, boobs and hips are womanly, and there you go.
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 2983 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2012 10:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Rose is masculine in some cultures afterall. One of my uncles is cliche macho. The super cars, gun toting, womanizing, paco rabanne wearing, hairy chested taurean with a sh!tload of Aries. Then u see his la prairie caviar anti age serum lmfao!
Sounds like YTA! Who uses Clinique face soap and probably gets pedicures. I had no idea roses were manly in other cultures, that is pretty cool! (Unless it's one of those cultures where women are less important than camels and don't deserve roses? Then it's not cool...but I'm stating the obvious.) Yeah my hubby isn't using MY hand lotion either, he actually bought his own stuff and said, "Laugh all you want, this stuff smells great!" If that's Taurus, it's fabulous.  IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 8166 From: Lake Como next to George Clooney's House Registered: May 2011
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posted December 15, 2012 10:50 PM
I think it's middle eastern culture. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.I am definitely on the feminine side on actions and appearance. I think at least I sway towards the pretty in terms of looks more. I still have my forties to gain some masculine patina lol! IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 2983 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2012 11:55 PM
quote: Originally posted by LauraAesthetic: I love this model! My friends think he looks like jesus, but I'm like what could his asc be?! I like masculine men with an edge. But everyone seems to think he looks girly(man) =/!
Hi Laura!  Well he looks both Jesus-y and masculine to me...Jesus was a He with a capital H after all. I'm no good at seeing ascendants but to me he's got a strong earthy look. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 2983 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 15, 2012 11:57 PM
quote: Originally posted by sand:
I am definitely on the feminine side on actions and appearance. I think at least I sway towards the pretty in terms of looks more. I still have my forties to gain some masculine patina lol!
LOL! Well good luck! You actually look very masculine in all the pics I've seen of you but extra "masculine patina" never hurts, I don't think... IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 8166 From: Lake Como next to George Clooney's House Registered: May 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 01:13 AM
Oh but in person I have really long lashes and pinkish skin ahahaha! I could do one of those Asian commercials.. Except men don't really want pinkish white skin lol! IP: Logged |
Lexxigramer Moderator Posts: 906 From: The Etheric Realms...Still out looking for Schrodinger's cat...& LEXIGRAMMING.♥.. is my Passion! Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 16, 2012 05:45 PM
quote: Originally posted by Desiring Shadows: I would like to date a transvesite man. It's always my secret hope. Or a hermaphrodite ...
There are lots of heterosexual men who cross dress. I am sure you can find some/one. As to a hermaphrodite; known now as intersex; most were and still are being surgically altered as babies to be one sex; usually female. So do not expect much luck finding an intact one. And do you mean transvestite or cross dresser? quote: Definition of TRANSVESTITE a person and especially a male who adopts the dress and often the behavior typical of the opposite sex especially for purposes of emotional or sexual gratification
quote: cross–dress·ing the wearing of clothes designed for the opposite sex, but not specifically for sexual gratification
Or drag queen?Anyhow; I generally prefer androgyne men. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4345 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 07:16 PM
Just because I take care of myself with Clinque soap doesn't make me a wimp. I'm still a martial artist and an ex-soldier. . No, I'm not some metrosexual who gets pedicures. Yes, i make an effort to dress well. A man doesn't need a beard, unkempt long hair, sweatiness and body odor to be masculine.  IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 07:42 PM
quote: I am definitely on the feminine side on actions and appearance.
You? Really? Nahhhh, you're like a passive masculine! IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 8166 From: Lake Como next to George Clooney's House Registered: May 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 07:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by RedScorp: You? Really? Nahhhh, you're like a passive masculine!
Ugh.. Thanks? IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 07:56 PM
Welcome!  Any ways...I think I like...passive personalities, because I'm a pretty active personality. But physically, feminine females and masculine males. Because I'm caught in between! #androgyne IP: Logged |
mockingbird Knowflake Posts: 909 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted December 16, 2012 11:50 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Well I think that's interesting in itself!  To me, there is a kind of brute-force strength particular to women...I don't think women are "acting like men" when we express this. In a macrobiotic cookbook I have, the author talks about a philosophy in which men's external strength is matched by women's internal strength. Like yin and yang, but I can't remember the details. Anyway, I know a lot of women are the "rock" in their relationships. A lot of women who seem submissive are actually controlling much more than meets the eye. So that's a little complex.
This is so true - and true across cultures. Back during a sophomore lit course, I had a professor who began talking about the systemic and total historic subjugation of women. I asked, "Well, don't such generalizations act to further discount women?" From him, silence. I continued, "If nothing else, I've known many 'traditional' relationships in which absolutely nothing got done by the husband unless the wife wanted it done. He might not have always known that that was the case, but it was." A (male) Afghan student said, "YES! Yes! That is exactly as it is where I am from! Nothing is done unless the women want it done. The men may think that they are in charge, but they are not!"
quote: Still I think that there a lot of personality adjectives generally regarded as feminine, i.e. sweet, supportive, agreeable, demure. And for men: protective, competent, decisive. Both sets of adjectives are unisex but that's the best I can think of right now.Much easier to talk about physique, where brawn is manly, boobs and hips are womanly, and there you go.
Yeah...I embody none of the feminine adjectives, except perhaps supportive. I can be agreeable, but sometimes that's more laziness than anything else The other day my husband tried to startle me in the garage. He pointed out that when he jumped out I squared off and started forward rather than away or back. And, well, hm - if we narrow what we like down to physiological parameters...I guess I like manly in the middle. My husband's not huge, but is bigger than I am. He does have very broad shoulders against which I enjoy cuddling and nuzzling ^_^ Yeah, there we go - I appreciate the "bigness" (in relation to me) of him. His hands are larger and more rugged than mine, his chest is easily half again or more larger than mine. I even love his big, increasingly wild eyebrows. Everything about him's a notch or two more coarse than me, and that's nice. Ha, ha! I've found something feminine  My love for my rough hewn protector
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 24049 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 17, 2012 12:40 AM
Masculinity and feminity naturally complement one another. The question is how much and to what degree makes for the best ratios.------------------ "Fall down 100 times, get up 101...this is success." --ME IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 2983 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 17, 2012 08:37 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: Oh but in person I have really long lashes and pinkish skin ahahaha! I could do one of those Asian commercials.. Except men don't really want pinkish white skin lol!
Eyelashes are universally appealing. And don't worry about your baby soft, rosey skin, that'll go away eventually. 
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Faith Knowflake Posts: 2983 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 17, 2012 08:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: No, I'm not some metrosexual who gets pedicures.
We all know you are the "I'll kick your *ass in a heartbeat" kind of guy, but you also do the dishes and shop with your wife so...I wouldn't have been surprised if you got pedicures. Plus, you are Pisces rising, and Pisces rules the feet. So maybe you'd be happier if you got them. Free advice. quote: Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways: A man doesn't need a beard, unkempt long hair, sweatiness and body odor to be masculine. 
Speak for yourself! LOL IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 4966 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted December 17, 2012 08:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Masculinity and feminity naturally complement one another. The question is how much and to what degree makes for the best ratios.
i wish that were true.haha but men and women seem more at odds these days, i dont know if its always been this way but there seems to be a lack of understanding on both sides. its like we arent even remotely on the same page. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 2983 From: Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 17, 2012 08:57 AM
quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: I asked, "Well, don't such generalizations act to further discount women?" From him, silence.
Right! quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: A (male) Afghan student said, "YES! Yes! That is exactly as it is where I am from! Nothing is done unless the women want it done. The men may think that they are in charge, but they are not!"
Uh huh! Glad that guy was honest about it.  quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: The other day my husband tried to startle me in the garage. He pointed out that when he jumped out I squared off and started forward rather than away or back.
OMG you remind me so much of my best friend. I mentioned before that she is a Pisces sun, Aqua moon like you...and that's exactly what she would do, too. Once she got held up at gunpoint in a parking lot by a few kids in ski masks who wanted to take her car. You know what she did? She started telling them off, and said, "I'm going into this mall anyway, and NO you can't have my car!" One of the guys shot the gun into the ground to prove he was serious, and he said the next bullet was for her. She just kept telling him off while walking into the mall, where she contacted security immediately, and they got the guys. She was in a lot of newspapers.  quote: Originally posted by mockingbird: Yeah, there we go - I appreciate the "bigness" (in relation to me) of him. His hands are larger and more rugged than mine, his chest is easily half again or more larger than mine. I even love his big, increasingly wild eyebrows. Everything about him's a notch or two more coarse than me, and that's nice.
Ditto! And what's nice is that my hubby says he likes my smallness.  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 38730 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted December 17, 2012 09:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Randall: Masculinity and feminity naturally complement one another. The question is how much and to what degree makes for the best ratios.
True, God made the yin and the yang for a purpose  ------------------ Passion, Lust, Desire. Check out my journal http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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ail221 Knowflake Posts: 2395 From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home Registered: Feb 2012
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posted December 17, 2012 10:05 AM
I wonder how this thread will fair once the new male kilt trend hits maximum
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Aquacheeka Knowflake Posts: 2089 From: Toronto Registered: Mar 2012
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posted December 17, 2012 01:45 PM
All I know is that on a primal level, it works better if the man is physically larger than the woman. I tried dating an equal-size man. Trust me ladies, it's a visceral thing. Eventually you will both reject the dynamic.IP: Logged |
Maelstrom Knowflake Posts: 136 From: Here, There, Everywhere Registered: Oct 2012
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posted December 17, 2012 02:29 PM
Men - 10.Imagine character from "Spartacus; of Blood and Sand" only heavily tattooed. mmmmmm IP: Logged |
Stawr Moderator Posts: 2117 From: N. America Registered: Nov 2010
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posted December 17, 2012 02:58 PM
haha! fun! Oh yes I will eye those young construction working men as well as the ones in the suit. I enjoy being dominant and submissive. I like a man who can man handle. I like being choked. I love wrestling with my guy. I love tieing him up, cuffing him, and blind folding him. I like wearing lingere and stuff and wish I had more money to spend on that stuff. but yes I like a guy that can provide. And that gives me security and stability. If I'm high I like being flogged. I can really only be dominant if the guy respects me. So for the fist time I have been exploring that side. He is protective of me. he sleeps with a knife close by, cause if someone break in he wants to be able to defend me and him self. He is not at all materialistic. He hate seeing trucks that are shiney and have feminine stickers on them he is like "that is not a truck" He like driving dirty beat up trucks. He is the outdoors type too. He will man handle me and stuff. Almost wont let me leave when I have to go to work. Holds on tight to me when we sleep together at night. But when it gets right down to it...I am the more dominant one when it comes to sex. GOD I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM. A few more days! Have no idea how to rate that as a number right now. Gem Rising Aries Sun Scorpio Moon Venus Pisces Aquarius Mars IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4345 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 17, 2012 06:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Faith: Speak for yourself! LOL
My wife has been bugging me to join her in a hot stones massage at the day spa. That'll include the face mask, the manicure and pedicure. I guess there's no harm in trying. Just as long as they don't paint my nails!!  Yes, I shop with or without my wife. When I get feminine products at the pharmacy, the whole aisle clears out. Yes, I buy her make up at the department store and I know her shades of makeup, nail color, mascara, eye shadow, etc. That's when I pick up my own Chanel and Clinque. On the other hand, I come home and find my wife on the roof of the house clearing leaves from the gutter or scrapping ice/snow from the roof. Or once I came home to a demolished wall. There was once she changed tires/wheels on my cars y herself in the garage to a winter wheel set just using a standard home jack and standard wheel nut wrench. I came home and my other car had a whole new set of wheels. IP: Logged |
RedScorp Knowflake Posts: 4415 From: The Sun Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 04:17 AM
^I just wanna say that I admire you, and your wife. I dunno you both just come across as really respectable, and I like the dynamic of your relationship.  IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 4345 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted December 18, 2012 07:58 AM
^^ Thank you. I stress that we are not perfect and I'm definitely not perfect. There is always something to criticize or not like about anything, and we're both highly critical beings, but we make do and try our best. Don't think that we agree on everything and never ever argue. Both are aggressive beings with outsized egos, and arguments can get intense. But we ultimately focus on what matters. And as for looking and smelling "masculine," not shower one day and "you stink, go shower or you'll be sleeping in the guest room, and then washing all the linens tomorrow." And I also get "you're not wearing that" and "the 80s are over" and when I'm at work, the clothes that don't meet approval magically disappear lolIP: Logged |