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Faith
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posted December 15, 2012 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
^ That's not meant to ask for further clarification from you, but more to indicate that *I* have a difficult time with Masculine v Feminine.


Well I think that's interesting in itself!

To me, there is a kind of brute-force strength particular to women...I don't think women are "acting like men" when we express this. In a macrobiotic cookbook I have, the author talks about a philosophy in which men's external strength is matched by women's internal strength. Like yin and yang, but I can't remember the details.

Anyway, I know a lot of women are the "rock" in their relationships. A lot of women who seem submissive are actually controlling much more than meets the eye.

So that's a little complex.

Still I think that there a lot of personality adjectives generally regarded as feminine, i.e. sweet, supportive, agreeable, demure. And for men: protective, competent, decisive. Both sets of adjectives are unisex but that's the best I can think of right now.

Much easier to talk about physique, where brawn is manly, boobs and hips are womanly, and there you go.




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posted December 15, 2012 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
Rose is masculine in some cultures afterall.

One of my uncles is cliche macho. The super cars, gun toting, womanizing, paco rabanne wearing, hairy chested taurean with a sh!tload of Aries. Then u see his la prairie caviar anti age serum lmfao!


Sounds like YTA! Who uses Clinique face soap and probably gets pedicures.

I had no idea roses were manly in other cultures, that is pretty cool! (Unless it's one of those cultures where women are less important than camels and don't deserve roses? Then it's not cool...but I'm stating the obvious.)

Yeah my hubby isn't using MY hand lotion either, he actually bought his own stuff and said, "Laugh all you want, this stuff smells great!"

If that's Taurus, it's fabulous.

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posted December 15, 2012 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it's middle eastern culture. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I am definitely on the feminine side on actions and appearance. I think at least I sway towards the pretty in terms of looks more. I still have my forties to gain some masculine patina lol!

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posted December 15, 2012 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LauraAesthetic:

I love this model! My friends think he looks like jesus, but I'm like what could his asc be?! I like masculine men with an edge. But everyone seems to think he looks girly(man) =/!


Hi Laura!

Well he looks both Jesus-y and masculine to me...Jesus was a He with a capital H after all.

I'm no good at seeing ascendants but to me he's got a strong earthy look.

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posted December 15, 2012 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:

I am definitely on the feminine side on actions and appearance. I think at least I sway towards the pretty in terms of looks more. I still have my forties to gain some masculine patina lol!

LOL! Well good luck!

You actually look very masculine in all the pics I've seen of you but extra "masculine patina" never hurts, I don't think...

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posted December 16, 2012 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh but in person I have really long lashes and pinkish skin ahahaha! I could do one of those Asian commercials.. Except men don't really want pinkish white skin lol!

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posted December 16, 2012 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Desiring Shadows:
I would like to date a transvesite man.
It's always my secret hope. Or a hermaphrodite ...

There are lots of heterosexual men who cross dress.
I am sure you can find some/one.
As to a hermaphrodite; known now as intersex;
most were and still are being surgically altered as babies to be one sex; usually female.
So do not expect much luck finding an intact one.
And do you mean transvestite or cross dresser?
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Definition of TRANSVESTITE
a person and especially a male who adopts the dress and often the behavior typical of the opposite sex especially for purposes of emotional or sexual gratification

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cross–dress·ing
the wearing of clothes designed for the opposite sex, but not specifically for sexual gratification

Or drag queen?

Anyhow;
I generally prefer androgyne men.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 16, 2012 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just because I take care of myself with Clinque soap doesn't make me a wimp. I'm still a martial artist and an ex-soldier. . No, I'm not some metrosexual who gets pedicures.

Yes, i make an effort to dress well. A man doesn't need a beard, unkempt long hair, sweatiness and body odor to be masculine.

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posted December 16, 2012 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I am definitely on the feminine side on actions and appearance.

You? Really? Nahhhh, you're like a passive masculine!

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posted December 16, 2012 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sand     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You? Really? Nahhhh, you're like a passive masculine!

Ugh.. Thanks?

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posted December 16, 2012 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome!

Any ways...I think I like...passive personalities, because I'm a pretty active personality. But physically, feminine females and masculine males. Because I'm caught in between! #androgyne

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posted December 16, 2012 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mockingbird     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith: Well I think that's interesting in itself!

To me, there is a kind of brute-force strength particular to women...I don't think women are "acting like men" when we express this. In a macrobiotic cookbook I have, the author talks about a philosophy in which men's external strength is matched by women's internal strength. Like yin and yang, but I can't remember the details.

Anyway, I know a lot of women are the "rock" in their relationships. A lot of women who seem submissive are actually controlling much more than meets the eye.
So that's a little complex.



This is so true - and true across cultures.
Back during a sophomore lit course, I had a professor who began talking about the systemic and total historic subjugation of women. I asked, "Well, don't such generalizations act to further discount women?"
From him, silence.
I continued, "If nothing else, I've known many 'traditional' relationships in which absolutely nothing got done by the husband unless the wife wanted it done. He might not have always known that that was the case, but it was."
A (male) Afghan student said, "YES! Yes! That is exactly as it is where I am from! Nothing is done unless the women want it done. The men may think that they are in charge, but they are not!"


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Still I think that there a lot of personality adjectives generally regarded as feminine, i.e. sweet, supportive, agreeable, demure. And for men: protective, competent, decisive. Both sets of adjectives are unisex but that's the best I can think of right now.

Much easier to talk about physique, where brawn is manly, boobs and hips are womanly, and there you go.


Yeah...I embody none of the feminine adjectives, except perhaps supportive. I can be agreeable, but sometimes that's more laziness than anything else
The other day my husband tried to startle me in the garage. He pointed out that when he jumped out I squared off and started forward rather than away or back.

And, well, hm - if we narrow what we like down to physiological parameters...I guess I like manly in the middle.
My husband's not huge, but is bigger than I am. He does have very broad shoulders against which I enjoy cuddling and nuzzling ^_^
Yeah, there we go - I appreciate the "bigness" (in relation to me) of him.
His hands are larger and more rugged than mine, his chest is easily half again or more larger than mine. I even love his big, increasingly wild eyebrows.
Everything about him's a notch or two more coarse than me, and that's nice.

Ha, ha!
I've found something feminine
My love for my rough hewn protector

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posted December 17, 2012 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Masculinity and feminity naturally complement one another. The question is how much and to what degree makes for the best ratios.

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posted December 17, 2012 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sand:
Oh but in person I have really long lashes and pinkish skin ahahaha! I could do one of those Asian commercials.. Except men don't really want pinkish white skin lol!

Eyelashes are universally appealing.

And don't worry about your baby soft, rosey skin, that'll go away eventually.

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posted December 17, 2012 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by YoursTrulyAlways:
No, I'm not some metrosexual who gets pedicures.

We all know you are the "I'll kick your *ass in a heartbeat" kind of guy, but you also do the dishes and shop with your wife so...I wouldn't have been surprised if you got pedicures.

Plus, you are Pisces rising, and Pisces rules the feet. So maybe you'd be happier if you got them. Free advice.

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A man doesn't need a beard, unkempt long hair, sweatiness and body odor to be masculine.

Speak for yourself! LOL

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posted December 17, 2012 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Masculinity and feminity naturally complement one another. The question is how much and to what degree makes for the best ratios.


i wish that were true.haha but men and women seem more at odds these days, i dont know if its always been this way but there seems to be a lack of understanding on both sides. its like we arent even remotely on the same page.

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posted December 17, 2012 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mockingbird:
I asked, "Well, don't such generalizations act to further discount women?"
From him, silence.

Right!

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Originally posted by mockingbird:
A (male) Afghan student said, "YES! Yes! That is exactly as it is where I am from! Nothing is done unless the women want it done. The men may think that they are in charge, but they are not!"

Uh huh! Glad that guy was honest about it.

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The other day my husband tried to startle me in the garage. He pointed out that when he jumped out I squared off and started forward rather than away or back.

OMG you remind me so much of my best friend. I mentioned before that she is a Pisces sun, Aqua moon like you...and that's exactly what she would do, too.

Once she got held up at gunpoint in a parking lot by a few kids in ski masks who wanted to take her car. You know what she did? She started telling them off, and said, "I'm going into this mall anyway, and NO you can't have my car!"

One of the guys shot the gun into the ground to prove he was serious, and he said the next bullet was for her.

She just kept telling him off while walking into the mall, where she contacted security immediately, and they got the guys. She was in a lot of newspapers.

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Originally posted by mockingbird:

Yeah, there we go - I appreciate the "bigness" (in relation to me) of him.
His hands are larger and more rugged than mine, his chest is easily half again or more larger than mine. I even love his big, increasingly wild eyebrows.
Everything about him's a notch or two more coarse than me, and that's nice.

Ditto! And what's nice is that my hubby says he likes my smallness.

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posted December 17, 2012 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Masculinity and feminity naturally complement one another. The question is how much and to what degree makes for the best ratios.


True, God made the yin and the yang for a purpose

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posted December 17, 2012 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder how this thread will fair once the new male kilt trend hits maximum


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posted December 17, 2012 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aquacheeka     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All I know is that on a primal level, it works better if the man is physically larger than the woman. I tried dating an equal-size man. Trust me ladies, it's a visceral thing. Eventually you will both reject the dynamic.

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posted December 17, 2012 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maelstrom     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Men - 10.

Imagine character from "Spartacus; of Blood and Sand" only heavily tattooed.

mmmmmm

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posted December 17, 2012 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stawr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
haha! fun!
Oh yes I will eye those young construction working men as well as the ones in the suit.

I enjoy being dominant and submissive.

I like a man who can man handle.

I like being choked.

I love wrestling with my guy.

I love tieing him up, cuffing him, and blind folding him.

I like wearing lingere and stuff and wish I had more money to spend on that stuff.

but yes I like a guy that can provide. And that gives me security and stability.

If I'm high I like being flogged.

I can really only be dominant if the guy respects me. So for the fist time I have been exploring that side.

He is protective of me. he sleeps with a knife close by, cause if someone break in he wants to be able to defend me and him self. He is not at all materialistic. He hate seeing trucks that are shiney and have feminine stickers on them he is like "that is not a truck" He like driving dirty beat up trucks. He is the outdoors type too.

He will man handle me and stuff. Almost wont let me leave when I have to go to work. Holds on tight to me when we sleep together at night.

But when it gets right down to it...I am the more dominant one when it comes to sex.

GOD I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM. A few more days!

Have no idea how to rate that as a number right now.

Gem Rising
Aries Sun
Scorpio Moon
Venus Pisces
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posted December 17, 2012 06:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
Speak for yourself! LOL

My wife has been bugging me to join her in a hot stones massage at the day spa. That'll include the face mask, the manicure and pedicure. I guess there's no harm in trying. Just as long as they don't paint my nails!!

Yes, I shop with or without my wife. When I get feminine products at the pharmacy, the whole aisle clears out. Yes, I buy her make up at the department store and I know her shades of makeup, nail color, mascara, eye shadow, etc. That's when I pick up my own Chanel and Clinque.

On the other hand, I come home and find my wife on the roof of the house clearing leaves from the gutter or scrapping ice/snow from the roof. Or once I came home to a demolished wall.

There was once she changed tires/wheels on my cars y herself in the garage to a winter wheel set just using a standard home jack and standard wheel nut wrench. I came home and my other car had a whole new set of wheels.

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posted December 18, 2012 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RedScorp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^I just wanna say that I admire you, and your wife. I dunno you both just come across as really respectable, and I like the dynamic of your relationship.

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YoursTrulyAlways
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posted December 18, 2012 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YoursTrulyAlways     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Thank you. I stress that we are not perfect and I'm definitely not perfect. There is always something to criticize or not like about anything, and we're both highly critical beings, but we make do and try our best. Don't think that we agree on everything and never ever argue. Both are aggressive beings with outsized egos, and arguments can get intense. But we ultimately focus on what matters. And as for looking and smelling "masculine," not shower one day and "you stink, go shower or you'll be sleeping in the guest room, and then washing all the linens tomorrow." And I also get "you're not wearing that" and "the 80s are over" and when I'm at work, the clothes that don't meet approval magically disappear lol

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