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Topic: confidence: what does it mean to you?
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aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
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posted January 15, 2013 08:49 PM
  
IYO, what is a healthy level of confidence to have? what does that word even mean to you? my experience has been that almost everyone will "tell" you they hate arrogance but love confidence, i personally think there is an extremely blurry line between confidence and arrogance ... what do you think?IP: Logged |
sand
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posted January 15, 2013 08:55 PM
Confidence is not chest beating coz u know it's your natural birth right to be alpha as fuk. IP: Logged |
sand
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posted January 15, 2013 08:58 PM
It's not whining coz u do what u gotta do. U don't give Oscar speeches detailing your long road to success. U do it like Gregory peck coz he is the man.
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aquaguy91
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posted January 15, 2013 08:58 PM
alpha as fuk? kind of like me with that lumberjack shirt  IP: Logged |
sand
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posted January 15, 2013 08:59 PM
That's a birth control shirt! ahaha I'm just kidding aqua guy! IP: Logged |
Lazyscarecrow
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posted January 15, 2013 09:07 PM
Arrogance to me is you hold yourself above everyone else. If someone does not meet your standards or whatever, they may as well be fecal matter on the ground. It's over-blown self-importance.Confidence is when you don't compare yourself to others and you aren't hard on yourself when you mess up or make a mistake. You still have your own standards but you acknowledge others as the same as you, not like they are beneath you. You know your strengths without needing to broadcast (much). It's also not having a lot of fear, whether of other people or yourself but that's what confidence is to me. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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posted January 15, 2013 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by sand:
That's a birth control shirt! ahaha I'm just kidding aqua guy!
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sand
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posted January 15, 2013 09:12 PM
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aquaguy91
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posted January 15, 2013 09:15 PM
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Desiring Shadows
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posted January 15, 2013 09:19 PM
Lmao Aquaguy, cool pic.xD
To me confidence is a quiet self assurance that doesn't make a squeak out of tune with present situations, an ego which like doesnt interfere. You get me? Basically arrogance is to mask insecurities and truths, imo. Arrogance is fear they will be judged harmed or ridiculed. Arrogance is the last thing you have to worry about, trust me
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RedScorp
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From: The Sun
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted January 15, 2013 09:25 PM
Confidence is knowing what you got, knowing/accepting that you're good, and accepting that you aren't inherently better than other people. You know what's what.Arrogance is when your views begin to get skewed. Confidence is sexy because you can socialise way better, while arrogance is usually a turn off because it shows the person doesn't know what's what, they only think they do. IP: Logged |
SaturnineMoth
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From: *The Land of Oz*
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted January 15, 2013 09:39 PM
exactly what Desiring Shadows and RedScorp said! Arrogance comes from ignorance, and gives you a false sense of entitlement, and makes you unpleasant and appear vain and condescending, foolish even Confidence comes from understanding and experience, and gives you strength, and makes you admirable and appear magnanimous, and reliable a humble and modest man can be confident, but an arrogant man could never be either. right? the line is thin sometimes... that's my definition anyway. ^^; IP: Logged |
sand
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posted January 15, 2013 09:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by aquaguy91:
#plagiarism IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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Registered: Oct 2010
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posted January 15, 2013 11:45 PM
Confidence is believing in yourself, while arrogance is believing yourself better than everyone else (this should not be confused with confident but selfish where they focus on their own needs but don't look down on others for doing the same or consider others inferior). Star Wars analogy: Obi-Wan Kenobi was confident, Anikan/Darth Vader was arrogant. Harry Potter analogy: Harry was confident, Draco (at least at first) was arrogant. Though another type of arrogance born of insecurity could be seen in Gilderoy Lockhart (not certain if that's true arrogance, however, but he most certainly was not confident, no matter how much he tried to come off as such, and he more "borrowed" his confidence by tricking people into thinking he was epic awesome, yet he seemed to believe his own deception on how amazing he was). Buffy analogy: Buffy was confident, Faith was arrogant. Brave analogy: Merida (redhead woman) is confident (if selfish & thoughtless, though I am very sympathetic to her in this scene) while the 2nd guy (long hair, looks like he belongs on the cover of a romance novel) who fired an arrow and had a meltdown was more arrogant (and a bit insecure,needing to be admired to feel good about himself, like Gilderoy), though you might appreciate how many women in the crowd swoon over him (even as he throws a public temper tantrum, at least in the actual movie, though in the actual movie Merida dismisses his temper tantrum with a sarcastic, "That's attractive"):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4EZULqhP2E Granted, those characters I listed as confident did at times venture into true arrogance, but being larger than life cinematic characters that's to be expected. The main thing I'm trying to show is that the confident can still connect to people (even if they're superior at something, that doesn't make them superior to others) and tend to know when to back down (or at least when they SHOULD even if their passions make it hard for them to choose the smarter path) while those arrogant are alienated from other people (even if they accept boot lickers, they don't really connect to them), feeling isolated as they're unable to bond with someone worthy (and feel threatened by those who can match or best them, especially as in their mind they can't accept that and try to find ways to prove their own superiority). And not everyone who acts confident is. For example, a man tried seducing me with confidence, it didn't work, and he had such a public meltdown that I wondered if I was in danger of violent attack. If he'd been confident then he'd simply waited for the next fish, but by rejecting him I'd grievously wounded his ego which he couldn't stand, which shows me he wasn't as confident as he pretended to be. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa
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posted January 16, 2013 02:24 AM
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
Confidence is believing in yourself, while arrogance is believing yourself better than everyone else (this should not be confused with confident but selfish where they focus on their own needs but don't look down on others for doing the same or consider others inferior).
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This. I was also going to add confidence is you including others, whereas arrogance is you including yourself. Confidence is equality, arrogance is one-sided. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted January 16, 2013 04:54 PM
RLTW!  IP: Logged |
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