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Topic: 5 Ways Men Are Trained to Hate Women
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PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 01, 2013 06:20 PM
  
Decide for yourself whether it's funny, sad but true, or funny because it's true (note that there are 2 pages):
http://www.cracked.com/article_19785_5-ways-modern-men-are-trained-to-hate-women.html IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 5626
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 06:26 PM
very predictable.. shame men for being angry/frustrated at women, as if they never have legit reasons to be... however its perfectly acceptable for women to be angry at men... do you see how this pattern would build resentment?IP: Logged |
PixieJane
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From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 01, 2013 06:31 PM
Who has the double standard again? If it's ok for you to post what you do then why not us? Or why men like you (which, thankfully, isn't that common, there are many like you, but many more who are not, very much like the women you complain about) can't be talked about in any way that suggests you bear any responsibility for your own life but you can say it's all our fault.And you didn't even read it as I posted it 6 minutes ago. And btw, not all nice men have the problems you do. But then one possible reason is that they're actually nice and know where to look. And frankly I think this article very well might help us understand you and your warped subjective reality. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
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From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 06:43 PM
i dont even have to ..... its all the same.. thats just the way our culture is.. any man who says anything less then flattering about women is a misogynist... if a woman screws a man over, he is told"it must be your fault somehow, you must have done something to deserve it." however if a woman gets screwed over by a man,she hears"oh honey! its not you its him! your beautiful,wonderful etc.. lots of women are angry about men, but we never call them out or demonize them.. however if a man is angry he is crucified.... again, see how this setup could lead to resentment? IP: Logged |
RedScorp
Knowflake Posts: 4925
From: The Sun
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 06:47 PM
I'm about halfway through and it's a good article, I like it. quote:
When that happens, when we get that boner at the funeral, we get mad at the girl showing the cleavage.
Love this! And I'm a guy myself.  IP: Logged |
RedScorp
Knowflake Posts: 4925
From: The Sun
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 06:52 PM
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"Janet walked her boobs across the city square. 'I can see them staring at my boobs,' she thought, boobily."
I LAUGHED OUT LOUD OMG A+ good find IP: Logged |
PixieJane
Knowflake Posts: 1618
From: CA
Registered: Oct 2010
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posted February 01, 2013 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
lots of women are angry about men, but we never call them out or demonize them
Actually, you do it, though of course you think you're being objective rather than demonizing women. Anyway, that's all I'm going to exchange with you today as I'm tired of shoveling what you keep dumping on us. Just because you believe what you do and can find similar malcontents on the net doesn't mean it's either true or convincing, especially not to the many women who aren't always complaining of their men being jerks or the many genuinely nice men who have no problems being with a woman. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 5626
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 06:59 PM
you know what i would like to see? a legit article about why some men are angry... and not more of the baseless shaming.. which only builds more contempt. The "entitlement" crap gets extremely old after awhile.IP: Logged |
RedScorp
Knowflake Posts: 4925
From: The Sun
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 06:59 PM
^I'd also like to point out that many many people, of various sexes and personal views and values, have challenged aquaguy on his opinions and at no point has he thought that maybe he has bad opinions.Sorry/not sorry. EDIT! aquaguy, write that article. I want to see just what you'd put in it. IP: Logged |
Odette
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Registered: May 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 07:06 PM
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I'm about halfway through and it's a good article, I like it.
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When that happens, when we get that boner at the funeral, we get mad at the girl showing the cleavage.
Why is it so bad to be turned on at a funeral? circle of life.. sex-birth-death-sex.. etc It's very difficult for me to deal with people who have such issues with their own sexuality and then project their issues at others.
Both men and women do this though. It's like if you are turned on... then go with it... don't start policing yourself and then getting angry with the object of your attraction over being attracted...
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peregrine
Knowflake Posts: 292
From: Finding my place in the cosmos
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 07:12 PM
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You know how every comedy has that stock character of the womanizing, amoral guy who just says what he thinks all the time, and cares only about himself? Joey in Friends, Charlie Sheen in Two and a Half Men,
^me to a tee! quote:
Guys love that character because he's doing what, on some level, we all wish we could do.
Some guys hate on this too. Haters gonna hate.. IP: Logged |
Odette
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posted February 01, 2013 07:16 PM
LOL Well those two points are conflicting then.Charlie wouldn't get angry if he saw a woman with a nice cleavage at a funeral. He'd probably ask her for her number. So this article is saying that on the one hand all men want to be Charlie & lighthearted/easy-going about sex.................... On the other hand they get their knickers in a twist over having a hard-on in an inappropriate situation, and get angry with the woman 'tempting' them, which seems like a very serious/religion-based reaction. IP: Logged |
Faith
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Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Actually, you do it, though of course you think you're being objective rather than demonizing women.
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Faith
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posted February 01, 2013 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by RedScorp:
^I'd also like to point out that many many people, of various sexes and personal views and values, have challenged aquaguy on his opinions and at no point has he thought that maybe he has bad opinions.
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peregrine
Knowflake Posts: 292
From: Finding my place in the cosmos
Registered: Apr 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by Odette:
LOL Well those two points are conflicting then.Charlie wouldn't get angry if he saw a woman with a nice cleavage at a funeral. He'd probably ask her for her number. So this article is saying that on the one hand all men want to be Charlie & lighthearted/easy-going about sex.................... On the other hand they get their knickers in a twist over having a hard-on in an inappropriate situation, and get angry with the woman 'tempting' them, which seems like a very serious/religion-based reaction.
Only reason I like going to Church. not that cleavage makes me pop a boner. #pristineshelteredyumminess IP: Logged |
ail221
Knowflake Posts: 2883
From: Mary Margaret Blanchard's home
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted February 01, 2013 07:47 PM
It's a funny (the way its laid out on the site, sad, and true.Society has trained men to believe they can behave anyway and look anyway yet get the "hot girl" or at least the girl definitely out of his league,Ex. Family Guy, King of Queens, and the Simpsons; Comedic parodies of life. Women are viewed as decoration, what bothers me the most is when women who aren't necessarily in careers that require them to look a certain way are judged on their appearance ex. female politicians, as mentioned in the article. There's a difference between looking professional for your occupation and looking like a doll at work. IP: Logged |
RedScorp
Knowflake Posts: 4925
From: The Sun
Registered: Jul 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 08:22 PM
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Odette: It's very difficult for me to deal with people who have such issues with their own sexuality and then project their issues at others.
I get turned on at "inappropriate" times as well, but I don't blame any one (not even myself! it's natural, no?). I just try to keep it hidden from others so as to not make them uncomfortable with my vibrant sexuality.  IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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From:
Registered: Oct 2011
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posted February 01, 2013 08:49 PM
Oh stop it already. Enough!!IP: Logged |
LunaNight
Knowflake Posts: 59
From: IL, USA
Registered: Sep 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 12:59 AM
I wasn't going to comment, because I am the girl who feels objectified by most men.. but I am also seeing that men seem to be more easily adapatable to just trying to feel good.This isn't a bad thing.. it's difficult to not feel like a human sex doll when you have my views, lol, but all-in-all, when I open up to truly feeling passion, that desire and yearn is by far more pleasing than the moments I feel I am only wanted for my physicalities. I think all happens for a reason. If a man desires you in one way shape or form, you can't judge his reasonings.. you're not in his head. He could merely want this sexy, soft body, or he may have a deeper passion that signals a feeling of desire.. who knows unless we truly talk to each individual? Everyone's different IP: Logged |
T
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 02, 2013 01:07 AM
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Originally posted by LunaNight:
I wasn't going to comment, because I am the girl who feels objectified by most men.. but I am also seeing that men seem to be more easily adapatable to just trying to feel good.This isn't a bad thing.. it's difficult to not feel like a human sex doll when you have my views, lol, but all-in-all, when I open up to truly feeling passion, that desire and yearn is by far more pleasing than the moments I feel I am only wanted for my physicalities. I think all happens for a reason. If a man desires you in one way shape or form, you can't judge his reasonings.. you're not in his head. He could merely want this sexy, soft body, or he may have a deeper passion that signals a feeling of desire.. who knows unless we truly talk to each individual? Everyone's different
Sorry, Luna Night, but you totally sound like a guy member posing as a new female member here. I mean, you have under 60 posts and I've picked out some other creepers before. Youre suspicious, right now. What's your real, regular guy name here? LOL come on, give it up 
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somethingexcellent
Knowflake Posts: 169
From: A Lion Pride
Registered: Nov 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 01:11 AM
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LunaNight: I think all happens for a reason. If a man desires you in one way shape or form, you can't judge his reasonings..
"I only raped her because I desired her shape and form"
"Oh you're right, we're not in his head, he's free to go!"  (Btw, Justin Bieber said those words too...happens for a reason...when he was addressing rape) IP: Logged |
Odette
Knowflake Posts: 1321
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posted February 02, 2013 03:40 AM
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Luna Night, but you totally sound like a guy member posing as a new female member here
I agree! IP: Logged |
Odette
Knowflake Posts: 1321
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posted February 02, 2013 03:44 AM
I take that back. I looked up past posts and she seems female. Sorry Luna! It just sounded like something a guy might say. IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways
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posted February 02, 2013 09:06 AM
My mom only had boys. She raised her boys to be suspicious of girls in every possible way, pretty much highlighting only the negative points. The birds and tge bees discussion also invariably centered around "the girl's fault.". Of course, I grew up rebellious and didnt listen to her. My friends were pretty much all girls. Morale of the story: raise your kids with a balanced viewpoint. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91
Moderator Posts: 5626
From: tennessee
Registered: Jan 2012
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posted February 02, 2013 09:23 AM
i am going to post two articles that i think really get to the root of why some men may feel resentment.. one is an article about loneliness and women and the other is an article about men and loneliness.. of course the article about womens loneliness is sympathetic and says women "suffer" alot worse then men when it comes to loneliness.. and of course the article about mens loneliness tells us that its our fault if we are lonely we havent tried hard enough to connect with people... it says women take a proactive approach to finding relationships and men do not... no disrespect,but really? because the last time i checked men are the ones who ask women out,pay for the dates,call the women, and ask them to marry them, is that not proactive? gee i guess not... of course all men who are lonely have only themselves to blame.. theres never been instances where men have tried over and over to connect with women and been rejected every time.. nope, never happened... are any of you getting the picture of why men might resent women somewhat? because our society tells us everyday that women matter more and their feelings matter... these articles are representitive of our cultures attitudes towards mens issues.IP: Logged |
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