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somethingexcellent
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posted February 04, 2013 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't. I feel like if I were to die unnaturally, that'd be okay, if it was what was meant for me.
If anything, I kind of don't want to die without seeing it coming. Could be my Scorpio.

I'm not depressed nor do I WANT to die, just that I feel like I'd be okay with it. I love my life and I love my friends and family, but I have no regrets, my love.

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posted February 04, 2013 11:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes. my greatest fear. some idiot at work told me i feared death because i was rich. he was a scorpio. #dumba$$

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posted February 04, 2013 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^Accept it mon frère! It could happen any place at any moment and it WILL happen. Enjoy what you can until then.

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posted February 05, 2013 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Nah, have already heard the EKG make that noise..Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Defribs..kind of hurt

What fills me with fear is..owing someone.

when I finally check out, this is not what I want to leave behind.

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posted February 05, 2013 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Padre35: Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Defribs..kind of hurt


Oh my gOD! I imagine they hurt...

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posted February 05, 2013 12:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
scary thread..

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posted February 05, 2013 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just saying in another thread I was hoping I didn't traumatise you, peregrine.

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posted February 05, 2013 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Oh my gOD! I imagine they hurt...

It's like getting kicked by a donkey..in your ribs..OMG that hurts!

Push comes to shove..could deal with that again..but..ventilation tubes..that is pain my friend.

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posted February 05, 2013 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
And though you be done to the death, what then?
If you battled the best you could;
If you played your part in the world of men,
Why the Critic will call it good.
Death comes with a crawl, or comes with a pounce,
And whether he’s slow or spry,
It isn’t that fact that you’re dead that counts,
But only how did you die?

-Edward Vance Cook


I fear it and I don't.

I fear dying painfully (like through ritual torture) or very tragically. If I were being chased by a mad gunman, I would definitely fear him. I fear the sadness of my children...like if I were to die by cancer.

Otherwise, no, I don't fear it, I look forward to it. Seems interesting.

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posted February 05, 2013 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xiiro     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Faith:
I fear it and I don't.

I fear dying painfully (like through ritual torture) or very tragically. If I were being chased by a mad gunman, I would definitely fear him. I fear the sadness of my children...like if I were to die by cancer.

Otherwise, no, I don't fear it, I look forward to it. Seems interesting.


My feelings are similar, I have a fear of dying at the hands of other humans though mostly. I think being turned on by a crowd is a reoccurring past life theme (burnt at the stake, killed several times by invading tribes and cultures, killed in a concentration camp, etc..), I am wired to care very much about other people, so the idea of being turned on or misunderstood to death is soul crushing for me. I used to fear death a lot, but that resolved after I learned to meditate.

My sister and I had a good conversation about this topic though and she said something I found interesting. She is not afraid of dying as much as she is afraid of either enduring infinity afterword or ceasing to exist. She is very religious, but admits the idea of heaven scares the hell out of her. People just being shiny and happy forever, and ever, and ever like some cosmic Stepford.

My big fear was about transparency. I was scared of not having a body to contain/control all the energy that exists in me. The idea of being held accountable for all the intense feelings and thoughts which erupt out of my Mars/Plutonian personality in any given moment was terrifying. I am a naturally passionate being and without a filter how could I protect others from myself?

Fortunately that's done though, way too much anxiety, panic, and depression surrounded those feelings for too long. I sketched this one day when I was feeling particularly done in.

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posted February 05, 2013 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Florett     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do not fear death. What I do fear is that I can't achieve my life goals.
In my opinion, dying is nothing more than a transition from a physical to a spiritual existence. So what is then the meaning of 'death' ? (retorical question)

Something to think about ...

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posted February 05, 2013 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No. And I know I confuse people with like saying I thought Buffy the Vampire Slayer should've ended with the death of Buffy in season 5, because I didn't see her story as over, I saw it as being COMPLETE. (And bringing her back also cheapened her sacrifice, IMO.)

And this is one of my favorite songs, I used to listen to it everyday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5waygXK3qYg

...To dance
Within the frost
To carry dreams of life away to dust
To call
Your name out loud
To carry fear away cast down the shroud
To die

When summer fades to silence
When winter's still a dream
And solemn sleep to you is blind again
And the Autumn comes with amber eyes
Pale as the night
To enthrall your soul...

And I remember a dream I had in the summer of 2002 in which a demonic creature was chasing me. It finally grabbed me and impaled me on all these swords. And as I accepted I was going to die, I just let everything go--every should be, could be, and notion--and I was filled with something akin to peace. The creature demanded I give it my anger and I laughed at it, telling it I was too tired to be angry.

I thought about that dream after getting up and then tried several meditations trying to let every preconceived notion (that used the phrase "should") that I have go. After a few hours, I realized I was trying too hard.... why not go to the beach? And so I did and the rest of that day, and the night that followed it, was one of the happiest of my life. That acceptance helped in many ways, and I think inspired me to make peace with my own mortality.

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posted February 05, 2013 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
October has long been a month I loved and feared. So much that was bad in my life happened in October, and I used to have terrible "October nightmares" as a result. But good things happened, too, and it was the month I was born (but also feel it's the month I will one day die in). I love Autumn and Autumn foods and Halloween and October parties...

Here's a poem I wrote years ago. It's on the long side but it explains it perfectly (IMO), though it includes mentioning the terrible October nightmares I used to suffer which I haven't suffered for the last couple of years.

October in My Soul

Sometimes I wake up
the monsters just beyond my vision
reaching, grasping, clawing,
my nerves burning in terror
of the past resurrected

Even worse are those times I awaken
feeling empty
feeling nothing
thinking life is loss
for I've lost those I love and myself
and yet if I hadn't
I'd have lost that which I am
and those that I love now
All that is life
requires sacrifice

And beside my lover tonight
I dream of two foxes loving
in spring flowers that ends in Autumn
one fox killed by merciless huntsmen
as one fox heals alone through winter
Spring reveals a new lover
as the fox dances in joy but asks:
will the huntsmen return?
I awaken and realize I am that fox.

October is the month I love and dread the most
with its parties and nightmares
with its joyful laughter in my life
and the piercing screams
that shatter my past and my sleep

I admire the colorful dying world,
love the hint of chill in the air
but dread the tragedy I sense
riding in the wind

October is all around me
Joy and Terror dance within me
As it has been
so shall it be again
the seasons turn
the passions burn
stoking me sweetly
burning me to ashes

October reminds me that the joys of life are not without its toll
The death and loss are our constant companions to life and love
As we wander through a cornucopia
of hazy mirages and shadowy images
Life and Death, Day and Night in eternal dance
The living surrounded by ghosts of the pasts and the future
Ghosts calling my name from within my haunted soul

I was born in October
and surely I will die then, too
From the witch's cauldron we all sprang
and to the cauldron shall we all return
the cauldron of the One we all can't help
but to revere and fear
The witch of my cauldron is named October.

And as I join the witch in laughter,
the nightmares spring
from the shadows within me
haunting me by the knowledge that they have
their real life counterparts
as these echoes of the past
once again pounce

I hold on, I hold on
for I have felt their fangs before
and yet I remain
visible and invisible scars my badges
my pride, my shame
I know morning will come,
frosty and promising
and if it doesn't
then the horrors will no longer have me to haunt
dying with me
or leaving me to find other game

Though I wonder then, should I die
if I'd ever haunt others
just as others have haunted me?
Or would I finally be able to truly rest
the nightmares no more,
my dance and my mosh ended?

--B. Jane Cochran, 10-23-2006

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posted February 05, 2013 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"We are spirits in the material world."

I'm looking forward to going "home" - back to the otherside from which we all came and shedding this sometimes stiffling bodily shell and being free.....not having bills. lol not having earthly responsitilities, or worries anymore. Seeing loved ones gone by before me etc.

..but not too soon....not ready to go to soon. There is still life left in me (sometimes). I still feel like there's a lot to do here and i have not completed my mission so-to-speak. I don't want to go in some kind of accident. I hope to go peacefully down the road.

& to be honest, it is a bit of a scary thought when you really think about it, but I believe i've died many times before and after it happens I will remember that there's nothing to worry about.

I just want to complete as much "business" (karma) here as I can and hopefully not have to come back again.

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posted February 05, 2013 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I fear the process. When I get stressed and need to get out of the house, I usually run into the woods, but for the past couple of months, I've walked around the neighbourhoods instead (where we have no pavements). I used to have an image in my head, every so often, of myself being left on the side of a road with no pavement, injured (or worse), and it spooked me the other night.

There are times when I want to die, and times when I feel like I still have something to do - like T. this was why I was hoping the past-life regressions would help, but I barely got a thing, certainly nothing like the regressions I read in books. It was very disappointing, especially when I've felt so depressed, and needed some answers. Other times, I want to stick around to see how Breaking Bad ends , although I doubt it would bother me if I missed the end of it and made it to the other side.

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posted February 05, 2013 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so scared...

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posted February 05, 2013 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I really love this thread, thanks for your thoughts, everyone. And thanks for that stunning picture, Xiiro. I'm paying close attention and marveling at how much poignancy and beauty can come into a discussion on death.

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posted February 05, 2013 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vent away!

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posted February 06, 2013 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Padre35:

What fills me with fear is..owing someone.


my biggest fear is leaving those who depend on me behind, namely my mother and brother. i can only imagine what my death would do to them and that terrifies me.

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posted February 06, 2013 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
death in itself is not scary , its the uncertainy of what happens afterwards that is scary. imo no matter what belief system you have you are going to have doubts about this. i am a christian but i dont believe in hell, i just cant believe that a loving God would allow his children to burn for an eternity, but what if im wrong?

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posted February 06, 2013 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for somethingexcellent     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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aquaguy91: death in itself is not scary , its the uncertainy of what happens afterwards that is scary. imo no matter what belief system you have you are going to have doubts about this.

I think assuming you have an idea of what happens is what causes you to be liable to doubts. I have no idea what will happen and that's okay, what happens will happen. No doubts on my end.

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posted February 06, 2013 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
what if im wrong?

You should play Pascal's Roulette:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/02/08/pascals-roulette/

Oh wow, I won on the first try! (Thor)

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posted February 06, 2013 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, teasel

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posted February 06, 2013 07:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
You should play Pascal's Roulette:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/02/08/pascals-roulette/

Oh wow, I won on the first try! (Thor)


LOL!!!

I tried being a Christian (cross) but guessed wrong, the real power is Freya!

Funny coincidence...you've mentioned her before, and I was going to name my next daughter Freya, if I ever had another daughter.

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posted February 06, 2013 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^

Interesting. A guy first told me about this game because he tried (picking the flying spaghetti monster) and got Freya as well, which made him think of me.

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