posted May 19, 2013 02:42 AM            

However, every now and then, I just ghost out of social situations where I'm likely to run into them and just make myself difficult to find.

posted May 19, 2013 10:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
I do this sometimes because I just feel like I need space.
It could be a fire sign thing.. feeling suffocated?

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Not so much, more like as enjoyable as it is to hang out with them, sometimes there are just more interesting projects to do.

For example, a great many of them were professional cooks and caterers, for me I have -0- interest in cooking professionally.

But I learned how to do some of the more advanced things just by chatting with them and going to a couple of catered events.

Afterwards though, they will talk about their jobs, cooking, and I really have nothing to add other then to be an interesting Saggie.

posted May 19, 2013 11:24 PM            

For example being around chefs etc, you hear a lot about food and the number of tables served up and recipes.

My mind goes to the ingredients required and where they come from and why what is either easily grown for oneself, or harvested in nature costs so much at their restaurants.

Then the thought process becomes "..well if you learn to at least approximate their techniques you can learn how to be a decent home cook and save a rather large amount of money.."

Among many many other things, like the outright hostility between city and rural people.

posted May 21, 2013 03:52 AM            

Being a more rural person I gather you would prefer to recharge by maybe hunting or camping for some extended time.

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Originally posted by Padre35:

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Among many many other things, like the outright hostility between city and rural people.

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Off topic, I've encountered some rude rural people and rude Urban people.

What people have to understand is Culture, Place, and Location.

Different places have different ways of life (Culture) this is dictated where they live(place).

The way they live(culture) is dictated by the environment they live in and have become accustomed to that.

If people understood that there would less barriers.

There is a culture difference between living in a Urban vs Rural setting and people have to understand there are factors why a rural person lives one way vs a urban person.

example a rural community may seem unfriendly to outsiders, but the reality is there trying to protect there community.

posted May 21, 2013 08:41 AM            

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Originally posted by SpooL:
Its always good to have some time for yourself to unwind and "recharge".

Being a more rural person I gather you would prefer to recharge by maybe hunting or camping for some extended time.

Off topic, I've encountered some rude rural people and rude Urban people.

What people have to understand is Culture, Place, and Location.

Different places have different ways of life (Culture) this is dictated where they live(place).

The way they live(culture) is dictated by the environment they live in and have become accustomed to that.

If people understood that there would less barriers.

There is a culture difference between living in a Urban vs Rural setting and people have to understand there are factors why a rural person lives one way vs a urban person.

example a rural community may seem unfriendly to outsiders, but the reality is there trying to protect there community.

If there are more positive interactions between urban and rural people I think you'll see a decline in hostility.

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I really do not believe it is "trying to protect their community" what I suspect it is boils down to in the rural environment you sort of are looked at by how you act and your competence.

posted May 21, 2013 10:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Hmm, not certain why I do it, as I tend to make close friends somewhat easily.

However, every now and then, I just ghost out of social situations where I'm likely to run into them and just make myself difficult to find.

Not angry at them whatsoever, just feel like "it's time to go do THAT", then show back up like a month or two later.

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Yes, I think healthy people allow this. If someone is my friend, they can go away and come back at any time. The friendship is the same level of love as it was when they left.

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posted May 21, 2013 04:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
I really do not believe it is "trying to protect their community" what I suspect it is boils down to in the rural environment you sort of are looked at by how you act and your competence.

The symbols that grant access in the urban environment, car, clothes etc, don't automatically grant access in the rural environment.

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Disregard YoursTruly pompousness. He's views don't fully reflect everyone in an Urban Environment.

The point i'm trying to make is the fact that people in an Urban Environment should make the bridge to people living in a rural environment and the same with people living in a rural environment as opposed to sticking to there dogmatic views of one or the other and see it for what it rally is.

Example I'm a urban person and the traditional view I have of rural people or have been raised to believe is rural people are uneducated and racist.

In some places that may be so, but in many others its not the case.

I've been to many rural communities and I would say that only one was racist and uneducated the rest were honest welcoming people.

posted May 21, 2013 04:34 PM            

That changed when I actually spent some time in the urban environment and found some genuinely nice, decent people who'd help you out however they could.

Which set in motion the "why is this flannel curtain there"?

A part of it is widely diverging views on things like hard drug use and religion, other part is a perceived lack of appreciation for higher education among rural population.

And, attractiveness, which is a different subject altogether, but it does boil down to symbols.

Other prong of what interests me about this is the ease at which rural people do things which costs urban people additional monies to acquire.

posted May 21, 2013 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

...Other prong of what interests me about this is the ease at which rural people do things which costs urban people additional monies to acquire.

For example "organic food", or things like wine making or flavored brandies or "steroid free meat" and even tailoring/dress making.

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I have no disagreement with that. That is what interests me about rural life.

This also elude to what I was saying in another thread why BA's are useless, you won't learn these "skills" with a BA.

At least on a rural environment you'll learn these skills.

One of my friends who spent half his life on a farm can tell the weather just based on the clouds, I had to learn that from taking a course on Meteorology.

He learned it from living on a farm.
Do you follow what I mean by "skills"? These are skills that you can learn by living in a rural environment.

posted May 21, 2013 05:10 PM            

Not only the weather, rather the larger picture, for example in an urban environment, a gentleman wears a suit, he is accepted, if he were wearing say camouflage or flannel in the same situation. The police may be called b/c he was wearing improper symbols for that environment.

This without a word being said by the suit wearer or flannel wearer.

Now for example, a proper haircut is valued in the urban environment, in the rural it normally is not, that would be seen as "soft".

Why? A proper hair cut/style highlights the persons best features, it's not silly froth like 600 dollar wallets etc.

posted May 21, 2013 06:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Absolutely I'm following you, and think you "get" why it interests me.

.....This without a word being said by the suit wearer or flannel wearer.

Now for example, a proper haircut is valued in the urban environment, in the rural it normally is not, that would be seen as "soft".

Why? A proper hair cut/style highlights the persons best features, it's not silly froth like 600 dollar wallets etc.

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Well, this is were are opinions may differ

posted May 21, 2013 07:52 PM            

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Originally posted by SpooL:
Well, this is were are opinions may differ

I see it more of "minor formalities". I don't see why one should judge another individual based on that and why it should prevent urban and rural people from bringing the gap.

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Oh, make no mistake SpooL, you or myself know better, however, I've personally witnessed exactly his happen.

Wrong symbol being displayed.

Reality is, both cultures are just trying to do the best they can, it is symbolism that is one of the divides and it is difficult to put into words but it is real and palpable.

For example what if, heaven forbid, one does not have perfect teeth?

Like Austin Powers with "..the mole! you have a mole on your face! guacamole'!"

That is very much how the urban environment operates, not a slam, just my observation.

In actual life, there is not much that separates the two, in some ways each envies the other.

The reality of two completely different environments is lost on either side as well. There are reasons why Rural does things, there are reasons why Urban does things, neither makes sense to each other.

One of the other unsaids is not everyone in the Urban area is one of the beautiful, wealthy, beloved of the gods (had to digress to Nietzsche for a moment).

It's not the "slave revolt in morals" it is more the urban exposition of being not in the "in" crowd". There are outcasts amongst outcasts as a dear friend of mine discovered when she/he lived in Chicago.

Dear heart, (Tauruian) and could not understand why the sort of code was unbreakable..I knew why but was to polite to actually say it..

It would take one heck of a charismatic person to bridge the gap w/o either resorting to religion or communism or what have you.

posted May 21, 2013 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by PixieJane:
I've found a huge difference between rural communities in CA and those in East Texas. And the ones in Texas do want to protect themselves from the urban immorality (I've encountered that in lesser form in CA, too, ranging from thinking people were fleeing the gangs of LA only to bring their teen gang bangers with them to plague THEIR community as well as steal their jobs to the urban voters outvoting them, but not anywhere as intense as I experienced in TX). And in East Texas higher education was suspect, and it was thought that the "ivory tower" insulated people from real life while filling their heads with propaganda, but in CA it was praise worthy (possibly because so many small towns there have community colleges, or maybe it's the admiring of education that allows community colleges to flourish).

The urban areas in CA and TX are much harder to tell apart, however (that is if you were just passing through).

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This is very true, one of the more fascinating people/characters I met this past year was from WVa.

Despised cars with license plates from out of state, as in seriously despised them.

"That is not how we do things in WVa, y'all to accepting!"

Wore western wear down to the one color western suits replete with high dollar boots and hat.