posted May 28, 2013 11:32 PM            

As in the vast majority of people.

The second was perception, pass beyond fear, and ones perception is quite alive. One feels a situation.

However, not the point, where does Fear hold you back? Afraid to speak up? Does one suppose that "I have to much to lose"?

posted May 29, 2013 12:19 AM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
False Expectations Appearing Real

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What one focuses on, one attracts.

This I've never understood, that is not to say be a blind optimist, it is to say situations are replicated..over and over again.

Go through that once, then realize it's all nonsense and boils down to a yes or no..put on that armor and do not take it personally.

posted May 29, 2013 02:25 AM            

But it's the fear of non-physical things that are gooey and interesting. Social anxiety, phobias...they sure are false expectations, but realising that won't alone stop the fear. And that's what makes them hard to deal with.

Personally, aside from, say, jump scares...I am trypophobic. Unnatural clusters of holes in skin drives me crazy and I get so itchyyyyy................

posted May 29, 2013 06:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Fear is the most basic opponent, when I learned about The Society de San Michele, fear was thought of as the usual existence for most people.

As in the vast majority of people.

The second was perception, pass beyond fear, and ones perception is quite alive. One feels a situation.

However, not the point, where does Fear hold you back? Afraid to speak up? Does one suppose that "I have to much to lose"?

IMO, the first step in an examined life, is to understand where Fear lurks, and why it lurks there.

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I can relate on a major level. I have Moon and mars in Cancer at a 9 degree conjunction but still a conjunction. I am super fear ridden. I will be back to talk about it.

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posted May 29, 2013 04:38 PM            

Sometimes you must take risks to change the way your life is going. Right now I think that's what an awakening society is all about...

Live in the Present, not knowing if it's a a flesh-eating tiger or a just a gentle kitty casting a big shadow. Going through the rolodex of things that happened in the past, and holding it to the light of imaginations of a possible future, it's important to realize what you're doing and realize that that are "choices" to make. What has happened to you in the past is not necessarily what "will" happen again in the future, IF we stay 'mindful' of the 'set-up' -- must choose wisely, to the best of all your information and trusting the intuition given by the universe.

Don't impulsively throw out the baby with the bathwater. They come 'separately'...

Save the baby (life, and potential). Change the water (circumstances, friends, and environment). And live just one day (or slivers) at a time. Taking tiny small steps, moment by moment, you can stand up against malignant forces intent on "making" you fail, and believing in the divine forces of Grace and goodness-- the deep soul of 'who you are'... Perhaps, and just maybe, if each Soul holds the anchor of Faith, and is not chased away by roaring shadows, then together we can take Courage. If we all 'do the job we were assigned to do' then there can be a Hope existing. By standing our ground we can help make a leap for the rest of the Collective called Beauty and "Humanity."

I, personally, may suffer and agonize through times of not feeling worthy.... All my incompetence is revealed. And others can take the opportunity to laugh, and to recoil... not "realizing" that when they see the others around them, that they COULD possibly be looking into the mirror of 'truth' amidst the warped fun-house contortions and lies. They can view 'what may possibly' happen to themselves in seconds of time, in the wrong/right place in their own strange situations.

HOWEVER, there are Knowing Forces that are greater than the totality of me and you. We are insignificant, tiny tiny individual humans-- with a great big Collective Future. It can go one way or the other. Depends on what all decide-- Cooperation is key to the motion, direction and goal. A future that is for Good, and not for our dissolution and devolving.... We must wait upon each other, Hoping for the very very Best outcomes.

The River is deep, and wide, and rages as it flows in the obstacles... but what Power can be sensed as it meets up against the pricks and goads of branches and debree in its watery-coursings.

We do not know what our future holds... but we MUST mightily hold on for "dear" life. We have to believe there's a reason we were born. Hope 100% in faith. There IS a reason... and a Season for Everything.

posted May 30, 2013 09:30 AM            

For me, I am a super fearful person. I am not proud of it, nor do I like it. I try to heal it the best I can but the progress is SLOW.

I am afraid of danger to my body, mainly. I was abused when I was sick, most of all. I am afraid of feeling that vulnerable again and I think this is the root of it.

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posted May 30, 2013 12:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

For myself AA, my largest feat is losing my freedom, which generally keeps me out of relationships and makes me a poor candidate for marriage.

It bothers me a little bit that people see that in me and read it entirely wrong. INOW I'm a very misunderstood person in real life.

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You didn't answer my answer about Chiron. Do you have it conj the ASC, Padre?

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posted May 30, 2013 12:22 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

For myself AA, my largest feat is losing my freedom, which generally keeps me out of relationships and makes me a poor candidate for marriage.

It bothers me a little bit that people see that in me and read it entirely wrong. INOW I'm a very misunderstood person in real life.

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What does your Uranus do, Padre?

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posted May 30, 2013 12:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

You didn't answer my answer about Chiron. Do you have it conj the ASC, Padre?

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Looking at my asteroid chart:

Aries 5.38 and Ceres 23.29 in my ASC, not sure if that means it conjoins or not AA.

Did not see that question AA, but do recall you asking me about Hekate:

posted May 30, 2013 02:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
What does your Uranus do, Padre?

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Just saw this AA:

Uranus 8th house
Uranus Opposite Midheaven
Uranus Square Midheaven
Moon Sextile Uranus
Mercury Square Uranus

Asteroids:
Uranus
Chiron
Eris
Noccus (sp)
Gal Cerder (?)

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posted May 30, 2013 03:37 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Looking at my asteroid chart:

Aries 5.38 and Ceres 23.29 in my ASC, not sure if that means it conjoins or not AA.

Did not see that question AA, but do recall you asking me about Hekate:

25.05 in Scorpio

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Is your ASC ARies 5.38?

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posted May 30, 2013 03:40 PM            

I may also look to Uranus aspecting the ASC in a square, perhaps.

I would look to 12th House planets, too and maybe aspects of these to the Moon.
I am feeling you have something pivotal conj your ASC.

Did you say you had Chiron conj the ASC?

Have I ever seen your chart, Padre?

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posted May 30, 2013 03:46 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Fear of losing my freedom, I would look to Moon/Uranus.
I may also look to Uranus aspecting the ASC in a square, perhaps.

I would look to 12th House planets, too and maybe aspects of these to the Moon.

Have I ever seen your chart, Padre?

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I think so, had one reading here, think it was 2 (you and someone else whom I'll not mention) gave me a reading and said:

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In your chart:
-Saturn in 1st opp Venus in 7th, in Scorpio - might indicate excessive criticism to/from women, possible cruelty
-Sun Square Pluto - can indicate a person who would disregard another person's interests or even well-being for their own interest/pleasure/whatnot.
-Moon square Mars, in Scorpio - can indicate a bad temper, anger, violence towards/from women
-Moon sq Venus - can be a player aspect
-Venus conj Mars in Scorpio - can be an indicator for a more compulsive sex-drive, with possible extreme nuances
-Uranus square Mercury and especially MC/IC axis - Mercury/Uranus can indicate insanity, unusual thinking, a mental freak, Uranus/Mc-Ic a disregard of society's rules, an outcast, a rebel, a freak
-add to that Jup in Scorpio

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Ah, thing is, the reading you gave me wound up getting locked b/c I used Office 2010 the student edition and the time ran out on it so they locked the document..nice of them

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posted May 30, 2013 04:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Do you want to put your chart up here or in the Beginners Astrology and you can ask some questions you have related to this or anything?

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posted May 30, 2013 05:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Ok Cool
ASk some questions you have, if you want. If not, I will just see what I can see. Remember, I am super honest so I prepare you for that when you enter my chart realm

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posted May 30, 2013 07:48 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
AA, my chart has already been described as "scary" there is little you can say to top it..

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Good. I have to be honest or why bother but so far, it does not look scary! xx

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posted May 31, 2013 12:13 AM            

The first and second one? Is the third where you are right now? What's with the NC under your username?

posted May 31, 2013 01:15 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Padre? Which wheel is your birthplace?

The first and second one? Is the third where you are right now? What's with the NC under your username?

A little part of what you're feeling right now should somewhat feel better in next few days... You have some hard but life-changing opportunities right now. (The things you've hashing through since last Nov can count a lot for you.)

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Mirage, this is all I can offer:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum34/HTML/001223.html

Clumsy, AA did a great job of putting up with my divergences as did SomethingExcellent.

posted May 31, 2013 07:55 PM            

The most EMERGENT thing for you right now... I'm talking TODAY, and for the rest of the summer... is that YOU'VE GOT some MAJOR "life transits"--- song, Time Passages!! So, Congratulations! (Sorta like getting your first menses... er, but your a grown-ed man!! )

posted May 31, 2013 08:38 PM            

GOOD that comma was there. If not, those blue eyes would not help you

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