posted October 06, 2013 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Its a little common knowledge that women do hold grudges more than men because they are more sensitive beings.

I dont mind men who are emotional, loving, sensitive, YET strong, masculine, and brave

I just dont like bitchy, catty men. lol

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Women more sensitive than men?
Again, I totally disagree.
Men are often not allowed to be themselves emotionally.
But inside they are no different than women in depth of feelings.
As to grudge holding;
again, not a gender specific trait in my pov.

posted October 06, 2013 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
I dont understand.

Isnt there diversity? Different types lf men? If you dont like a specific type of male why do you think they should change for you? Maybe you just need to find the person who fits you instead of playing "role playing games" ? No?

In my opinion its not in a mans place to run after a woman, or pay for her. I think the extreme "role giving" is useless, one always chases, always pays, so dont you end up the lazy person? Do it 50-50 to keep it balanced instead of becoming a passive person looking for someone to do everything for you, or an exhausted person taking care of a slob who does or initiates nothing.

Making stereotypical gender roles will always make the man big and important and the woman a "support" and not a person for herself , also while being demeaning for people who do not fit the stereotype, and feel like they are forced to be something that is not truly them.

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posted October 06, 2013 02:19 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:

Making stereotypical gender roles will always make the man big and important and the woman a "support" and not a person for herself , also while being demeaning for people who do not fit the stereotype, and feel like they are forced to be something that is not truly them.

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posted October 06, 2013 02:35 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
I dont understand.

Isnt there diversity? Different types lf men? If you dont like a specific type of male why do you think they should change for you? Maybe you just need to find the person who fits you instead of playing "role playing games" ? No?

In my opinion its not in a mans place to run after a woman, or pay for her. I think the extreme "role giving" is useless, one always chases, always pays, so dont you end up the lazy person? Do it 50-50 to keep it balanced instead of becoming a passive person looking for someone to do everything for you, or an exhausted person taking care of a slob who does or initiates nothing.

Making stereotypical gender roles will always make the man big and important and the woman a "support" and not a person for herself , also while being demeaning for people who do not fit the stereotype, and feel like they are forced to be something that is not truly them.

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posted October 06, 2013 04:13 PM            

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Originally posted by somethingexcellent:
Everything.

Age of Aquarius, any day now, remove these old, hindering mindsets...my Aquarius Moon is waiting. What is "masculine" or "feminine"...as if gender is a binary. Ugh.

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posted October 06, 2013 04:41 PM            

Men are more direct and less petty, except once in a blue moon but that was probably a character issue of this one person.

That is my personal experience.

I am more careful who I trust now, but that is not a bad thing.

I think the chart can tell you whom you can trust, to some degree.

I think Water Sun sign women can be trusted, as a general rule.

I think water Moons can be trusted, as a general rule.

You have to look to the Moon.

Make sure there is a loyal Moon, ime. To me, the most able to be trusted are the water Moons, Cappy, Taurus and Leo Moon.

Cappy Suns can be trusted, too, ime

You learn by screwing up. What can I say

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posted October 06, 2013 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
Do it 50-50 to keep it balanced instead of becoming a passive person looking for someone to do everything for you, or an exhausted person taking care of a slob who does or initiates nothing.

Making stereotypical gender roles will always make the man big and important and the woman a "support" and not a person for herself , also while being demeaning for people who do not fit the stereotype, and feel like they are forced to be something that is not truly them.

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That is YOUR definition of gender roles, not MINE! So don't push that mess off onto me as if I said ANY of that.

In many relationships today...it's THE WOMAN putting in most of the work in nearly EVERY area of the relationship. Not the Man, who is too busy being "passive". There is a difference between being Independent and being Stupid. So please -- spit that 50/50 thing to the OTHER SIDE.

I *believe* in a Woman having her OWN LIFE. She should have her own money & career aside from her Man. She should not rely completely on ANYONE but herself & God! So I absolutely am *not* in support of being a gold-digger who uses men for money. Don't get it twisted LOL. People (both men & women) should be bringing something TO THE TABLE when pursuing relationships. So we agree on that.

I stated that doing FREE things sometimes is just fine. If gold-digging was my aim, I'd totally bash that!! But I don't. However, a Man should NEVER pursue a Woman and invite her out on dates and then EXPECT HER TO PAY. That is a trifling mindset -- that will never be okay. Ever!

Women should not be whining & dining Men 24/7 and making all the BIG moves in the relationship and then COMPLAIN that he "never does anything for her" or "he never takes charge" or "he doesn't treat me right".

He doesn't treat you right because you're being a DOORMAT. He doesn't do anything for you because you insist that you don't need him to. In fact....you insist that you do everything for HIM because "who cares about gender roles anyway" right??

posted October 06, 2013 04:59 PM            

The sooner you learn it, the better. Anyone who has stayed in any community for any period of time has to learn to ignore.

Today must be learning to ignore day

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posted October 06, 2013 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
Much of what is male is social stereotyping and varies in time and place.
I see nothing wrong with "soft" men.
As to bitchiness and men acting like women;
grudges etc.;
well again;
what does being a woman entail?
I think all these issues are basically any gender and it's society and or the times or just plain how "people" of any gender can be or not.
I freaking hate stereotyping of gender and gender roles and gender inflexibility,
ie; only allowed/accepted to be gentle women, or tough guys,
and no gentle guys and tough women.
Ugh.

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Oh I do, men with vaginas is never optimal.

Half stepping, purposeless men who have no idea what they are about, or even what they believe or know, is the menu dejour for that demographic/

posted October 06, 2013 05:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
LA
Learn the lesson of ignoring the people who bait others. You are new, so you don't know. Just ignore people who feel icky to you! They feel icky to other people, too, so know you are not alone.

The sooner you learn it, the better. Anyone who has stayed in any community for any period of time has to learn to ignore.

Today must be learning to ignore day

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I had to say my final piece. I'm not afraid of a debate!

posted October 06, 2013 05:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

If one does not agree, that is fine, differences make the world go around.

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posted October 06, 2013 05:06 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Many of them are indeed very SOFT. Totally full of Bitchassness! And by soft, I don't mean you need to be a jackass! Many of the softest men are the ones who put on the *OVERLY AGGRESSIVE* front who are usually the ones who have a lot of mouth on them but cannot FIGHT for shyt!

A man (or woman) who whines or complains 24/7 needs to be buried alive. Under cement LOL. A man who can't ever handle TAKING THE LEAD and who constantly relies on women to make moves first is repulsive to me -- THAT is soft.

I'm not completely traditional OR progressive. There are positives and negatives to both "eras".

For instance: I'll go out on dates with a guy to do FREE things sometimes, like strolling in the park together...just talking & enjoying each other's presence! However, under no circumstances will *I* be paying a MAN'S way to *anything* on the dates that are NOT free. You don't court a woman and ask HER to pay - totally absurd. I don't subscribe to that way of thinking and never will! Now once in a relationship, I'll treat him on occasion.

Another example: Is it weak for men to cry?

IMO - nope. And someone doesn't have to be dead for him to do it!! It's not good to hold everything in, so I'm a big fan of men TALKING out their emotions. Let your Lady in on your thoughts, fears, joys! You don't necessarily have to cry -- just be sure not to BOTTLE your feelings up all the time. However...don't begin crying over every little thing & start PMS-ing because that is TOTAL bitchassness right there!

I do not support a "gender-less" society. Where EVERY single thing has to go in the opposite freaking direction. There are some things of *OLD* that needed to change and evolve - I support those changes. But there are also some things of *NEW* that are tacky, tasteless & silly and of no help to relations between men & women AT ALL. Laziness on the part of MEN...and brashness on the part of WOMEN.

Alright. Rant done.

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Hard lesson I learned young one, what happens to men today is if they even show a bit of weakness, as if there were problems in their world, to speak of them is to basically castrate oneself.

Basically, for men all of this "talk to me" stuff is a lie, do not do that, it will be held against you even moreso than owing money.

"This one time he told me.."

Did that once, for a week, no one wants to hear it.

THAT is how the world works in the West

Best friend died?

They do not want to hear about.

posted October 06, 2013 05:07 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
That is YOUR definition of gender roles, not MINE! So don't push that mess off onto me as if I said ANY of that.

In many relationships today...it's THE WOMAN putting in most of the work in nearly EVERY area of the relationship. Not the Man, who is too busy being "passive". There is a difference between being Independent and being Stupid. So please -- spit that 50/50 thing to the OTHER SIDE.

I *believe* in a Woman having her OWN LIFE. She should have her own money & career aside from her Man. She should not rely completely on ANYONE but herself & God! So I absolutely am *not* in support of being a gold-digger who uses men for money. Don't get it twisted LOL. People (both men & women) should be bringing something TO THE TABLE when pursuing relationships. So we agree on that.

I stated that doing FREE things sometimes is just fine. If gold-digging was my aim, I'd totally bash that!! But I don't. However, a Man should NEVER pursue a Woman and invite her out on dates and then EXPECT HER TO PAY. That is a trifling mindset -- that will never be okay. Ever!

Women should not be whining & dining Men 24/7 and making all the BIG moves in the relationship and then COMPLAIN that he "never does anything for her" or "he never takes charge" or "he doesn't treat me right".

He doesn't treat you right because you're being a DOORMAT. He doesn't do anything for you because you insist that you don't need him to. In fact....you insist that you do everything for HIM because "who cares about gender roles anyway" right??

You *BOTH* have to pull your weight in different ways. Nobody is a lazy bum - at least in my scenario. In some areas, things will be split down the middle. But some things are simply more for one side or the other. Period!!! And I'm not talking about "dishes" or "trash" or anything petty like that.

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What is your Moon sign LovelyAries? I agree with you on many of your points.

Thing is when opposite gender types are carried to a negative extreme then there is a problem. I have the experience of taking on the male role with a man who acted too much like a female, and got burned for it. Equal is fine by me, I prefer it.

posted October 06, 2013 05:12 PM            

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
What is your Moon sign LovelyAries?

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Cancer Moon, like Ami. In the 9th House. Hence, why I say that I'm neither *completely* progressive OR traditional. I am both!

What is yours?

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Hard lesson I learned young one, what happens to men today is if they even show a bit of weakness, as if there were problems in their world, to speak of them is to basically castrate oneself.

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posted October 06, 2013 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
@LovelyAries86, okey that's why I get your posts! I am also Cancer Moon, but in 12th house.

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
LA, Mine is the 9th house, too, and conj the MC.

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See Ladies....this is why we're so awesome!

Cancers (both Sun & Moon) have a Master's Degree in caring for OTHERS haha. We just naturally nurture, and we instinctively know what our folks need!

On the flip side...we seek security for OURSELVES also. And that is only natural!! You can't be a selfish, lazy, passive a$$ man and expect not to *awaken* the crabby, bitchy Cancer tendencies! Oh no!

It must be returned.

posted October 06, 2013 05:44 PM            

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Originally posted by libraschoice77:
My ex basically behaved as a really attractive woman would behave, he had a gigolo type way about him. To him since he was good looking guy he let others do for him. He thought I was a sweet girl that would continue to put up with it...well he was wrong lol!

Total f**king douche bag

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Did he have a Taurus Moon?

posted October 06, 2013 05:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Did he have a Taurus Moon?

I've only met a couple like this and they both had Taurus Moon - but it could well be coincidence lol
The ones I know are not so good looking.
They're average looking guys who - for some reason- act like they are a female supermodel and are looking for someone (usually an older and richer woman) to mooch off of.

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He was a Scorpio Sun with a Capricorn Moon, with a Mars conjunction Pluto aspect. I asked him to carry his own weight, but this would bring on bad arguements between us. And I warned him if he didn't start carrying his own weight in the relationship I would leave. Well he didn't and I left. There is more to a man then looks and a big 'you know what' lol, but to him he thought it was enough to bring to the table.

Now I am married to a wonderful man(Leo man) who is very loving and giving. He has not once tried to use me or manipulate me. We hold our own in the relationship, more balanced.

posted October 06, 2013 05:59 PM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
I just cannot be bothered with the men of today. Ugh. LMAO.

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What an awful thing to say

I make no secret that I'm an older man, there are a couple of things that amaze me:

-Young guys today, even military vets, are clueless literally they walk around in a world of "..I could never talk to her..."

-Young women are far far more aggressive then they once were

And the rebirth of powder coke, these things surprise me.

I see young purposeless guys all the time, they are employed and have careers it's not that, it is more that they are drones.

Blank slates, who merely have vague ideas and lots and lots of envy

I've ltierally never heard so much hate for people who earn more then they do at the time, instead of "..wow I need to earn more.." it's "..they have the money and don't want to give it to me..."

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posted October 06, 2013 07:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
every generations gawks at the generation after them.
"WE'RE PERFECT"

The 80's had real men..
hmmm totally!

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Quite the opposite actually, the 80's saw the beginning of the mangina's being birthed.