posted October 06, 2013 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
You tend to use the wrong words..
Everyone is thinking you men sensitive and emotional but really you just mean men who don't know themselves..
That's not a desirable quality for anyone.
Yeah I can see how that makes a person less adequate if you can't make your own decisions and be independent .

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Perhaps I do, though have never heard it said that way.

Though I'd put it more that it's not being sensitive or emotional, it's more they are neither, young guys I've met are more emotionless.

It is more the fear of being themselves, save for previously approved politically corrected, sterile opinions

posted October 07, 2013 12:06 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

Though I'd put it more that it's not being sensitive or emotional, it's more they are neither, young guys I've met are more emotionless.

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Many of them are indeed emotionless, super boring & monotone. Or they are far too emotional & whiny. It's so very unattractive.

There's no balance in these people.

posted October 07, 2013 12:09 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
That is YOUR definition of gender roles, not MINE! So don't push that mess off onto me as if I said ANY of that.

In many relationships today...it's THE WOMAN putting in most of the work in nearly EVERY area of the relationship. Not the Man, who is too busy being "passive". There is a difference between being Independent and being Stupid. So please -- spit that 50/50 thing to the OTHER SIDE.

I *believe* in a Woman having her OWN LIFE. She should have her own money & career aside from her Man. She should not rely completely on ANYONE but herself & God! So I absolutely am *not* in support of being a gold-digger who uses men for money. Don't get it twisted LOL. People (both men & women) should be bringing something TO THE TABLE when pursuing relationships. So we agree on that.

I stated that doing FREE things sometimes is just fine. If gold-digging was my aim, I'd totally bash that!! But I don't. However, a Man should NEVER pursue a Woman and invite her out on dates and then EXPECT HER TO PAY. That is a trifling mindset -- that will never be okay. Ever!

Women should not be whining & dining Men 24/7 and making all the BIG moves in the relationship and then COMPLAIN that he "never does anything for her" or "he never takes charge" or "he doesn't treat me right".

He doesn't treat you right because you're being a DOORMAT. He doesn't do anything for you because you insist that you don't need him to. In fact....you insist that you do everything for HIM because "who cares about gender roles anyway" right??

You *BOTH* have to pull your weight in different ways. Nobody is a lazy bum - at least in my scenario. In some areas, things will be split down the middle. But some things are simply more for one side or the other. Period!!! And I'm not talking about "dishes" or "trash" or anything petty like that.

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Interesting how you took the paragraph meant for you, and ignored it, for obvious reasons.

The other paragraphs, were not for you, and so im not interested in this game playing, especially since you just "aquaguy" across this whole thread.

posted October 07, 2013 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by LovelyAries86:
Many of them are indeed emotionless, super boring & monotone. Or they are far too emotional & whiny. It's so very unattractive.

There's no balance in these people.

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Home run..this is what I've noticed as well.

It's either bland drones, or drama kings.

To put it this way, the younger women I've met literally just seek me out to talk to me because they want someone to chat with who cares about them, who is interesting, who is also not needy.

Truly wish I could explain this to other guys, if you hate your job, have no other interests, and do not even bother with either dressing well or working out..guess what..you are going to have problems meeting ladies of quality

Toss in bad manners and no sauve' and my goodness, no wonder this is why I said bitchassness is prevalent today.

This is why I feel bad for young women today, you have to do all the work!

posted October 07, 2013 12:24 AM            

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Originally posted by doommlord:
Interesting how you took the paragraph meant for you, and ignored it, for obvious reasons.

The other paragraphs, were not for you, and so im not interested in this game playing, especially since you just "aquaguy" across this whole thread.

I hope that youl luck with men will turn to the better.

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Thank you

posted October 07, 2013 01:23 AM            

By men with vaginas, she meant emasculated, weak men, meaning their not worthy of their man hood.

in her view, there is nothing wrong with womanhood (and in many ways its better and more powerful than manhood)

so in her view she just thinks women shouldnt be rejecting their inner womanhood or man rejecting his role as a man

posted October 07, 2013 01:42 AM            

if i wasnt with my current rare gem boyfriend of my age im sure i would be dating a 30+ year old lol

posted October 07, 2013 02:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Home run..this is what I've noticed as well.

It's either bland drones, or drama kings.

To put it this way, the younger women I've met literally just seek me out to talk to me because they want someone to chat with w

Truly wish I could explain this to other guys, if you hate your job, have no other interests, and do not even bother with either dressing well or working out..guess what..you are going to have problems meeting ladies of quality

Toss in bad manners and no sauve' and my goodness, no wonder this is why I said bitchassness is prevalent today.

This is why I feel bad for young women today, you have to do all the work!

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posted October 07, 2013 02:26 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] Home run..this is what I've noticed as well.

It's either bland drones, or drama kings.

To put it this way, the younger women I've met literally just seek me out to talk to me because they want someone to chat with w

Truly wish I could explain this to other guys, if you hate your job, have no other interests, and do not even bother with either dressing well or working out..guess what..you are going to have problems meeting ladies of quality

Toss in bad manners and no sauve' and my goodness, no wonder this is why I said bitchassness is prevalent today.

This is why I feel bad for young women today, you have to do all the work!

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I've spent months chatting with you AG, if one does not understand by now, do not know what else to say or do.

To make it basic, one last time:

-Be interesting
-Have things you like to do that do not involve females, it is for you, not them
-Shockingly, the world does not revolve around you, surprising I know.
-Have a style
-Keep in mind, not every woman one knows is a target to sleep with, ie, have sex with.
-Have your own opinions
-Read books, old fashioned perhaps, the more knowledge one pours into ones head, the more worldly one becomes
-Video games, to be blunt, are for losers, if your job pays you say 12 bucks an hour, how much does a video game pay you.
-Have some standards beyond "she's hot!!!"

This may sound odd to you AG, when one spends time in the dating scene, hotness becomes secondary to someone whom, wait for it..you actually like
This is the last time I bother with this AG, use it or not, your choice.

Noticed you extended your post, "most young women are egotistical" etc

Sure, on the surface, what I've found is that is mostly a front, look at it this way:

Spend time in the gym, spend time picking out clothes that highlight strong points, spend time getting ready to go out.

They have a lot invested in that evening, they expect the same from the guys who approach them

posted October 07, 2013 02:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
I've spent months chatting with you AG, if one does not understand by now, do not know what else to say or do.

To make it basic, one last time:

-Be interesting
-Have things you like to do that do not involve females, it is for you, not them
-Shockingly, the world does not revolve around you, surprising I know.
-Have a style
-Keep in mind, not every woman one knows is a target to sleep with, ie, have sex with.
-Have your own opinions
-Read books, old fashioned perhaps, the more knowledge one pours into ones head, the more worldly one becomes
-Video games, to be blunt, are for losers, if your job pays you say 12 bucks an hour, how much does a video game pay you.
-Have some standards beyond "she's hot!!!"

This is the last time I bother with this AG, use it or not, your choice.

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posted October 07, 2013 02:34 AM            

their not bad versions of their opposite sex

young women are so bad they get vain and materialistic by the time their 13 or 14

posted October 07, 2013 02:34 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
[b] I've spent months chatting with you AG, if one does not understand by now, do not know what else to say or do.

To make it basic, one last time:

-Be interesting
-Have things you like to do that do not involve females, it is for you, not them
-Shockingly, the world does not revolve around you, surprising I know.
-Have a style
-Keep in mind, not every woman one knows is a target to sleep with, ie, have sex with.
-Have your own opinions
-Read books, old fashioned perhaps, the more knowledge one pours into ones head, the more worldly one becomes
-Video games, to be blunt, are for losers, if your job pays you say 12 bucks an hour, how much does a video game pay you.
-Have some standards beyond "she's hot!!!"

This is the last time I bother with this AG, use it or not, your choice.

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Welp, that sounds like tough **** for you my friend, said what I've said, will say no more as my time matters to me.

I spent 10 minutes writing a post, you ignore the entire thing, and of course look to the topic that matters the most to you

Yourself.

posted October 07, 2013 02:39 AM              

I'd probably be more into someone who's average looking but with a more attractive attitude over someone who's hot and vapid.
This is coming from someone who's life is focused on visual beauty and aesthetics.

posted October 07, 2013 02:42 AM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
lol yes, young women are egotistical, vain, bitchy, and aggressive as hell

their not bad versions of their opposite sex

young women are so bad they get vain and materialistic by the time their 13 or 14

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Don't know about all that, young women I've met are aggressive tho, these are not shrinking violet types.

Used to be you'd ask them out after a couple of months of getting to know them, now..fat chance, they don't have time for that!

posted October 07, 2013 02:44 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Welp, that sounds like tough **** for you my friend, said what I've said, will say no more as my time matters to me.

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posted October 07, 2013 02:46 AM            

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Originally posted by Kerosene:
Hmmm
Looks are an obvious advantage but I honestly think if you know how to play the game you could still succeed.

I'd probably be more into someone who's average looking but with a more attractive attitude over someone who's hot and vapid.
This is coming from someone who's life is focused on visual beauty and aesthetics.

Instead of worrying about looks, people need to focus on their approach.
Yeah cleaning yourself, getting a better hair cut and threads will probably help too.

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Who you kidding?

Looks over all, especially out at night.

Different if it is a work thing or what have you were you get to know the other person.

Do agree, attitude, clothes, suaveness, really helps, in the out at night culture tho, looks are first and foremost as there just is not time (usually) for more quiet qualities to show forth.

posted October 07, 2013 02:48 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
you know what padre, in all my 22 years I have never interacted with someone who is so full of sh*t. You make a vague statement about women doing all the work and when I ask you what you mean
by that you couldnt even explain what you meant. Instead you launch a personal attack on me and my character. This had nothing to do with me. You just can't answer for and back up the crap
you say.

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posted October 07, 2013 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Which is a good exposition of why I will no longer bother.

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posted October 07, 2013 03:16 AM            

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in all my 22 years I have never interacted with someone who is so full of sh*t.

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Aqua - Please don't personally insult people! Padre has not told you you are "full of sh*t" just because he disagrees with you.
If you don't like what someone has to say ignore it - or reply in a way that is not offensive to that person and their opinion, specially when they are only trying to provide helpful advice to you (and the intent does count!)

posted October 07, 2013 03:35 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
O_O

Aqua - Please don't personally insult people! Padre has not told you you are "full of sh*t" just because he disagrees with you.
If you don't like what someone has to say ignore it - or reply in a way that is not offensive to that person and their opinion, specially when they are only trying to provide helpful advice to you (and the intent does count!)

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posted October 07, 2013 04:17 AM            

1. How many have spent serious time on psyche meds?

I met men described as passive and envious and all that and a lot of them were on psyche meds. (Women, too, but boys are much more likely to get put on them as kids than girls are.) It was funny, sad, and a bit scary when I noticed how calm everyone working at a video store was over a jerk, they remained polite and professional when I wouldn't have blamed them for violently kicking his sorry butt out of the store (but it was funny how frustrated he got at not being able to get them to react as anything other than casually professional). I mentioned that and they all bragged of being on psyche meds and how it changed them (the women, too). When I went back a few months later none of them were working there anymore. When I mentioned that to a friend she told me psyche meds did that to her as well and she had to get off of them or drop out of medical school as they were destroying her drive and personality.

2. How much time do these guys spend socializing online (typically in video games) as opposed to face to face?

posted October 07, 2013 04:37 AM              

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Who you kidding?

Looks over all, especially out at night.

Different if it is a work thing or what have you were you get to know the other person.

Do agree, attitude, clothes, suaveness, really helps, in the out at night culture tho, looks are first and foremost as there just is not time (usually) for more quiet qualities to show forth.

To me, this is why "nice guys" get eaten alive at night, they are used to a different frame.

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Hmm I have my choice in the types of people I can date I've dated people who are kinda mehhh just because I find them stimulating.
Night club lifestyle is really just for fun, I would never seriously date someone I met at a club or a bar
I have standards!
Yeah Good looks= more hookups but that's not really important when it comes to love.
and hey if you're not a 10/10 than don't expect your love to be a 10/10 either, right?

posted October 07, 2013 04:43 AM              

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Originally posted by Odette:
O_O

Aqua - Please don't personally insult people! Padre has not told you you are "full of sh*t" just because he disagrees with you.
If you don't like what someone has to say ignore it - or reply in a way that is not offensive to that person and their opinion, specially when they are only trying to provide helpful advice to you (and the intent does count!)

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