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Topic: Kids are getting too boy/girl crazy too early
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 7676 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 01:40 AM
I took my niece and some of her friends to a haunted corn maze tonight and I had to hear some very disturbing conversation the whole way there and back.What was very obvious right from jump street was all these girls are boy crazy. All of them apparently have boyfriends, including my niece, and all of them have cellphones. All they talked about was boys, boys, boys,and more boys. I literally heard the hottie rating of every boy at the middle school. They also talked about what they need to do to look sexy. believe me, I gave them a very stern look for saying that. It just blows my mind how different kids are today vs how they were just a decade ago.When I was in middle school kids weren't boy crazy or girl crazy and none of us had cell phones. Now you have kids concerned with adult matters at a young age and its really alarming. Christ! the last thing we need is babies having more babies.IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6753 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 02:00 AM
Seriously? we're only 3 years apart, right? something like that. You must of been in middle school around 2002? we had cell phones and kids around me did date etc LOL I remember when razrs and sidekicks were the original iPhones... those were the days.. I do agree teen pregnancy epidemic is ridiculous, especially that stupid show for glamorizing it. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 7676 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 02:11 AM
I graduated 8th grade in 2005. Yes, some kids had cell phones, but only the richest. Nobody really dated though. Now all the kids have cell phones and they are all concerned with dating and being cool. The media, technology,and social network sites have ruined kids imo. IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6753 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 02:23 AM
I grew up in the city, you need cell phones. Most parents would spend the money for the advantage of a cell phone.Once you start hitting puberty **** starts to happen. It's better to try and educate your children instead of trying to keep them in dark ages. Might as well homeschool them or send them to catholic/private schools. Oh wait those are just as worse, not nessarily the curriculum but again society/peer pressures. My mum never explained to me. YOUR GOING TO HELL FOR HAVING SEX!!! more like... YOU CAN GET STDS OR GET SOME GIRL KNOCKED UP AND I'M NOT GOING TO CLEAN UP YOUR MESS. ******* up that bad was not an option.. I just think parents should lay down the law, just set rules and standards.. You should never coddle your children. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 7676 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 02:32 AM
Yes, when puberty hits stuff does start to happen.. When I was that age kids were interested in the opposite sex but it didn't consume our minds. We were also more gun shy. Now kids are speeding up the whole process. As they say" fools rush in" . That pretty much sums up kids today.IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6753 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 02:59 AM
Agreed. You know things have always been kinda f'd up the 80's had huge drug epidemics in major cities, youngsters were exposed to that lifestyle... which a lot more rancid than middle schoolers sexting lol.. Putting things in perspective It gets tiring when I hear "KIDS TODAY" rant.. People have always been saying that..
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 3176 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 30, 2013 03:29 AM
It was pretty sexualized when I grew up though in a schizophrenic way. Popular girls were praised for being mature and sexual while unpopular girls were called ***** for the slightest offense. And boys, they were such braggarts that I can't help but think you were a hermit because that's normal. They lied a lot, however (just as many girls downplayed the sex they had). After I was labeled a **** (that was schizo, too) boys were always coming onto me. I'd turn them away but then they'd lie about what I did with them, perhaps because they didn't want to say they didn't get to score with me when all their friends claimed they did (that was Bible Belt, in contrast the outskirts of Houston were actually less wild and I wasn't harassed so much, though OTOH they were more honest than the legion of lying perverts of the Bible Belt and there were enough places to "get it" that they didn't have to bother me). My mom experienced the same thing growing up though she made it work for her instead of against her (at least she made sure she hurt that town a lot more than they hurt her, and I have to say as sad as it was I actually don't feel sorry for many of her victims, they deserved for being so obnoxious to her, even if it was a vicious circle). And as Granny told me, "You didn't invent sex, you didn't invent partying, you didn't invent rock and roll or whatever it is you kids listen to." Actually, after the **** rumors started Granny was so worried about my being raped by the good Christians who called me **** that she took immediate steps to prevent it with an expert touch that speaks of experience. The 70s and 80s seem even wilder, not only going by what I've heard from people who were raised in that time but their movies aimed at teens. And it makes sense it was wilder because of the explosion in drug use (which Vietnam vets contributed as much to as hippies and everyone else) which encouraged selling among youth (who in turn sold to friends), the existence of improved birth control, radical social changes everyone was still reeling from while some (such as legalized abortion) had yet to kick in (plus I believe the legal age of doing porn back then was 16), and that there were so many more kids back then (the "boomers") so it was harder to keep track of them than it was in the 90s. No wonder teen pregnancy and the like (plus crime and violence) were so much worse back then. And by high school for me oral sex became the rage. Thanks to all the ignorance imposed on us (and losing our respect with blatant hypocrisy and not believing anything they said because they kept lying to us) we invented our own details about sex, including "oral isn't sex and it's safe." What really inflamed that was President Clinton saying oral didn't count (which may have affected the middle schools as much as high schools). All in time for Britney Spears to arrive on the scene! ('Course sexually explicit lyrics had been going on for awhile with even songs like "cake and sodomy" and even Tori Amos got airtime on the radio with some that made me think, "Did they really just play that?") IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 7676 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 03:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: It was pretty sexualized when I grew up though in a schizophrenic way. Popular girls were praised for being mature and sexual while unpopular girls were called ***** for the slightest offense. And boys, they were such braggarts that I can't help but think you were a hermit because that's normal. They lied a lot, however (just as many girls downplayed the sex they had). After I was labeled a **** (that was schizo, too) boys were always coming onto me. I'd turn them away but then they'd lie about what I did with them, perhaps because they didn't want to say they didn't get to score with me when all their friends claimed they did (that was Bible Belt, in contrast the outskirts of Houston were actually less wild and I wasn't harassed so much, though OTOH they were more honest than the legion of lying perverts of the Bible Belt and there were enough places to "get it" that they didn't have to bother me). My mom experienced the same thing growing up though she made it work for her instead of against her (at least she made sure she hurt that town a lot more than they hurt her, and I have to say as sad as it was I actually don't feel sorry for many of her victims, they deserved for being so obnoxious to her, even if it was a vicious circle). And as Granny told me, "You didn't invent sex, you didn't invent partying, you didn't invent rock and roll or whatever it is you kids listen to." Actually, after the **** rumors started Granny was so worried about my being raped by the good Christians who called me **** that she took immediate steps to prevent it with an expert touch that speaks of experience. The 70s and 80s seem even wilder, not only going by what I've heard from people who were raised in that time but their movies aimed at teens. And it makes sense it was wilder because of the explosion in drug use (which Vietnam vets contributed as much to as hippies and everyone else) which encouraged selling among youth (who in turn sold to friends), the existence of improved birth control, radical social changes everyone was still reeling from while some (such as legalized abortion) had yet to kick in (plus I believe the legal age of doing porn back then was 16), and that there were so many more kids back then (the "boomers") so it was harder to keep track of them than it was in the 90s. No wonder teen pregnancy and the like (plus crime and violence) were so much worse back then. And by high school for me oral sex became the rage. Thanks to all the ignorance imposed on us (and losing our respect with blatant hypocrisy and not believing anything they said because they kept lying to us) we invented our own details about sex, including "oral isn't sex and it's safe." What really inflamed that was President Clinton saying oral didn't count (which may have affected the middle schools as much as high schools). All in time for Britney Spears to arrive on the scene! ('Course sexually explicit lyrics had been going on for awhile with even songs like "cake and sodomy" and even Tori Amos got airtime on the radio with some that made me think, "Did they really just play that?")
Of course bill Clinton didn't count oral
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 3176 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted October 30, 2013 03:49 AM
I'm thinking when AND where you grew up meant that boys had to be more careful about sharing/bragging/lying or they'd lose access to girls (who might even get boys to beat up the offending boys "making rumors"). Even if sex wasn't going on around you (yeah, right) the boys would still be lying about it, just as they always have, and just as they lie today on the internet about their black belts and sniper kills. Kids raid daddy's porn stash and sneaking into R-rated movies is usually pretty easy (unless the town is really small but then most who work cinema have no motivation to stop kids from sneaking in and a good reason to let them as it helps keep them in a job when kids buy plenty of tickets to a movie they are allowed to see before slipping into the one they really mean to). I don't believe that those you grew up with were so atypical (you might've been, but not everyone). The internet makes it easier to plug into the big cities, however. Everything they want is easy to find and even innocent searches can find porn accidentally that would make the stash of their dad and grandpa seem tame in comparison. So the seeming peer pressure would become different. But even so the media isn't going to twist kids as long as parents have their respect (not to be confused with fear which is different, fear without respect only means they don't want to be caught while respect means they'd be ashamed even if they didn't get caught) then their families are the biggest influence. Peer pressure is a different matter but generally speaking the kids are a reflection of their parents (more their example than the discipline they impose, if any). So if peer pressure has become powerful enough to override so-called family values then either too many families aren't raising them (leaving them with the media for babysitters) and/or they're dysfunctional messes where the parents engage in similar behavior. That is most kids who use a lot of profanity have parents who do as well (and cussing parents who whip their kids for doing the same only mean they use profanity out of earshot as kids have no respect for "do as I say, not as I do"). IP: Logged |
somethingexcellent Knowflake Posts: 3633 From: vodka fine, I'm so divine Registered: Nov 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 05:32 AM
How old are your nieces and her friends? I think year 8 was a pretty good indication of who was going in which direction for my peer group...IP: Logged |
YoursTrulyAlways Knowflake Posts: 6296 From: Registered: Oct 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 08:33 AM
How about: "if you have sex before marriage, even if you are 30, and I'll bash your face in?" It seems to work well. Don't worry about HIV or STDs... you'll get killed by your parents tonight when you get home, long before any disease kills you.My family has a rating for every girl in school. It's indexed to the GPA, number of languages fluent, number of instruments played and number of leadership roles. Geeks have and will always rule. Brains are sexy. My 8 year old carries an iPhone 5 (not S), iPod Mini and iPad 3 3G, plus Bose QC15 and Dr. Dre Diddy Beats headphones. What's the problem with that? Media and technology is here to stay. Progress with the times. I went through graduate school with a manual typewritter and did my finance spreadsheets with pencil and paper. That sux balls. IP: Logged |
hannaramaa Knowflake Posts: 6015 From: Registered: Nov 2011
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posted October 30, 2013 09:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by Kerosene: Seriously? we're only 3 years apart, right? something like that. You must of been in middle school around 2002? we had cell phones and kids around me did date etc LOL I remember when razrs and sidekicks were the original iPhones... those were the days.. I do agree teen pregnancy epidemic is ridiculous, especially that stupid show for glamorizing it.
Yes to everything about this, except the teen pregnancy rate in the US has gone down considerably as of 2010. IP: Logged |
Odette Knowflake Posts: 2777 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted October 30, 2013 11:55 PM
http://www.news.com.au/technology/online/now-teenagers-are-taking-funeral-selfies/story-fnjwnhzf-1226749532667 .. It's sad ^ IP: Logged |
Kerosene Knowflake Posts: 6753 From: Mercury Registered: Dec 2012
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posted October 31, 2013 12:12 AM
http://youmoron.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/RIP-Grandma.jpg Legend has it every time she takes selfies her great grandmother is next to her 0_0
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 33953 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 04, 2013 07:05 PM
I concur.IP: Logged |
Ellynlvx Knowflake Posts: 675 From: Mountain Gate Registered: Aug 2013
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posted November 04, 2013 07:09 PM
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Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 2580 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted November 04, 2013 10:45 PM
Wow AG, tbh even when I was in Middle School, ah-hem, a time ago, that stuff was everywhere, minus the cellphones. Of course that was S Florida, not TN IP: Logged |