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DeepFreeze
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posted November 14, 2013 01:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel weird. I've always been pretty private, quiet, and staying mostly to myself.

I'm always friendly and outgoing to my direct coworkers, close friends (which are few) and family.
Everyone else however, I want nothing to do with them - period.
Sometimes I just won't go out to eat because I don't want to deal with people. I don't even want to deal with the waiter/waitress. I just want my food to magically make it's way to my table.
I hate to sit in the middle. I always want to sit in the corner or edge away from others.

Recently, I've been skipping going to the gym because even at night there will be 3-4 people in there and for some reason, it's enough to make me say, "Screw it" and go home. (I do yoga and such at home so it's not so bad)
For years I've always done as much shopping as I possibly can in the middle of the night. I HAAAAAAAATE going anywhere during the day.
I avoid my neighbors, everything.
I do want to meet someone and be in love. If in love, they DEFINITELY could get me out and about - no problem. I won't meet anyone at this rate though. HAHAHAHA!

Here is not so bad. I'm anonymous, can keep distant, private if I wish, etc.

Is anyone else like this? I feel very strange. I've never worried about it but it's just getting worse. Astrologically, I have a few very sociable signs but they seem to do nothing. There's something else.

I wonder if it's simply antisocial behavior or some other type of personality disorder... ? Hmmmmmm.

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PixieJane
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posted November 14, 2013 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You sound introverted (as opposed to pathologically antisocial or having some other disorder). Speaking of which:

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Ami Anne
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posted November 14, 2013 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like pain, to me. It does not sound like introversion, at all.

It sounds like things got too hard to handle and you gave up. Talk about it some more. I can relate

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DeepFreeze
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posted November 14, 2013 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah it could simply be introversion - with pain too.
I'm not sure if I can pinpoint it though.
There's pain, I feel it, but I haven't identified it.

To me, it's just a matter of I don't want anyone watching me. I don't want them to see me. For some reason I feel like a pink dot on a black polka dotted dress. LOL I'm SURE it's not true but it's not the feeling of BEING different. It's the feeling of being noticed. I don't want to be noticed.
If I speak to someone, then yes. I DEFINITELY want their attention.

Well anyway. I don't know how to explain it or express it exactly. I don't feel depression. At least not that's obvious to me.
I don't feel like, "Ohhhhhhhh no one loves me. I should just kill myself". Or anything even close.
I just want to be like a ghost. LOL Reveal my physical self to who I want to see it.

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PixieJane
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posted November 14, 2013 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One thing more normal than introversion is pain, confusion, and loneliness (even those who are social can be lonely, especially if they hide their true selves to fit in). Many people can't feel the pain of others because they're drowning in their own. And conversely some dive into the pain of others to escape their own.

Contrary to the wisdom of the day pain and sadness isn't "a chemical imbalance in the brain" that you pop a pill against but rather it has always been part of the human condition, right along with the happiness and the joy, but people trying to sell us things in our consumerist society have done such a good job at convincing us pain, loneliness, etc, is unnatural and their product (which can be anything) can cure us of it.

Interesting enough it seems a little pain is actually good for happiness. I don't just base that on myself which keeps me appreciative of many things that I might otherwise take for granted but historical observations that the poor were celebratory on feast days and the like because they anticipated & experienced them with the utmost pleasure while for the wealthy the feast days were just another day and found themselves jaded...and depressed. And even to this day suicide (and many other social ills) plagues those who seem to have everything, and yet for some at least nothing worth living for despite their luxuries and millions socked away.

I understand that the pain of the world is such that it's beyond deafening to those who can hear and feel it with the utmost sensitivity and therefore can't participate in the world normally anymore. I know a Pisces moon that way who lives as a hermit in the woods now because it's all so much. That guy is psychic, I'll never forget how he found me and how he seemed to know me so well. I still exchange emails with him from time to time. I think he'd relate to you, he likes to interact with others and help ease the pain of the world but there's only so much of it he can take and he envies the people who can't feel it as intensely as he does.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 14, 2013 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does your Moon touch Chiron in your natal chart, DF?

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MsPrism
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posted November 14, 2013 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsPrism     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very informative and helpful, Pixie.

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DeepFreeze
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posted November 14, 2013 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie - Wow! Thank you for taking the time to post all of that. I agree and see some things in a new light. Very nice. Thanks!

Ami - I never really checked but yes, it does have a soft aspect to moon and also Sun actually.


It's mostly just strangers. Although I'm very private about certain things even to family and friends.
With family, friends, and even most coworkers (I've been there for some years now) I'm much more relaxed about things.

Oh well. I just thought it was weird. I haven't always been THIS extreme about it.

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Ami Anne
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posted November 14, 2013 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami - I never really checked but yes, it does have a soft aspect to moon and also Sun actually.

What are the aspects and the degrees. Does Chiron conjunct an angle?

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DeepFreeze
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posted November 15, 2013 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
[b]Ami - I never really checked but yes, it does have a soft aspect to moon and also Sun actually.

What are the aspects and the degrees. Does Chiron conjunct an angle?

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No conjunctions to anything.

5 degree sextile to moon
4 degree trine to sun

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Odette
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posted November 15, 2013 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DeepFreeze - I think you need to find ways to ignore people.

It sounds like you are hyper-sensitive and paying too much attention to everyone around you - strangers, the waiter, people sitting next to you on the bus or at the movies etc.

They are just people.. You really needn't give them any attention at all. It's not about liking or disliking them - It's about ignoring them.
They have no connection with you. They are living their lives, minding their own business.
Most people are neither interested in you and what you are doing, nor curious about you - nor sending vibes your way.
Occasionally you will run into a weirdo - but you can avoid those.
Most people honestly - could care less about your demeanour, what you eat, where you sit in a restaurant and whatever in the world you choose to do in general, as long as it does not bother them.

Does it help to listen to music while you're out - so you can disconnect from whatever is happening in your environment?

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Odette
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posted November 15, 2013 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many people get stressed and annoyed while shopping. Many people don't like crowded places.
Many people are uncomfortable going to a gym if they're not 100% happy with the way they look, for example.
But they generally learn to *ignore* annoyances and move right along with their lives...

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