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vickymadness
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posted November 24, 2013 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
95% of the times I initiate sex it's because I'm angry. I'm not talking makeup sex, NO. My anger gets accumulated through out the day and I feel fired up until I do it. Nothing arouses me more than anger... Nothing.
When I'm in the act, I just remember all the irritatable situations and the annoying people and it gets me more aroused and when I'm done I feel it's all flushed out of my system.
Currently, I'm blessed with an understanding partner. But previous guys used to freak out by this. I usually don't share my sexual stuff, but I'm curious as if this is normal? The psychological reasoning?

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Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2013 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I always think of the charts. What does your Venus do? What does your Mars do? Aspect wise?

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vickymadness
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posted November 24, 2013 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I always think of the charts. What does your Venus do? What does your Mars do? Aspect wise?


I don't think my chart lives up to this. But there you go:
Venus sq. Jupiter/Saturn
Mars sq. sun
Mars conj moon (but 8 orbs)
Add: Mars opposite BML, could that be it?

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Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2013 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Put in the orbs, Vicky, please

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vickymadness
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posted November 24, 2013 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Under 1 orb for Venus sq Jupiter/Saturn
Sun/mars 6 orbs
Mars/ BML 2 orbs

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Ami Anne
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posted November 24, 2013 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[b]Add: Mars opposite BML, could that be it?[b]

No, it sounds bigger than this. Do you have Saturn conj Pluto? I wonder what Saturn conjuncts.

Why don't you put up your chart, Vicky?

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posted November 24, 2013 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No Pluto is a singleton doesn't conjunct anything except the MC 3 orbs. So it's Saturn? I thought it has to be the martial energy. My partner, doesn't mind and infact, prefer it that way ... He is Pluto/ mars native.

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posted November 24, 2013 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find that what touches Saturn makes us obsessed with expressing.

I thought it might be something like this. It is like we MUST.

It feels like an obsession. It could even be an asteroid

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posted November 24, 2013 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn is 6-7 degrees apart from the ASC

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posted November 24, 2013 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Isn't Saturn the natural ruler of the MC? So Pluto conjunct MC will mimic Pluto conjunct Saturn, no?

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posted November 24, 2013 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vickymadness:
Isn't Saturn the natural ruler of the MC? So Pluto conjunct MC will mimic Pluto conjunct Saturn, no?

Hmm Never thought about this. Good thought, Vicky!!


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posted November 24, 2013 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Generally speaking it's normal for men and not for women. That's at partners, however. Still, I'm surprised guys would freak out. Heck, most guys seem to me to be just happy to be "getting some" to worry too much about why and if you're not angry at him then he should be glad to work it out and I'd think guys would be more likely to understand that since so many of them can have sex while angry.

For me personally, if I'm angry with someone, or if I'm scared, then sex is not likely to happen, and I'm not going to be aroused easily if I'm angry. That said, I DO manage excessive anger in part by intense exercise (and sauna) which helps me sweat out the stress related chemicals while also breaking down a chemical put out by the adrenal glands (that anger also spurs the adrenal to put out), and enough of it released endorphins, so if you're habitually angry from daily activities then I can understand how sex would work for you from a mental PoV. (And that's even before taking into account how WEIRD a lot of sexuality is, that is weird is normal but people are discouraged from talking about what doesn't fit a narrowly defined path.)

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posted November 24, 2013 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wish more girls were like that .

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posted November 24, 2013 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
I wish more girls were like that .


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I'm so cappy
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posted November 24, 2013 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't work like that but I wouldn't call it a deviation.

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posted November 24, 2013 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Generally speaking it's normal for men and not for women. That's at partners, however. Still, I'm surprised guys would freak out. Heck, most guys seem to me to be just happy to be "getting some" to worry too much about why and if you're not angry at him then he should be glad to work it out and I'd think guys would be more likely to understand that since so many of them can have sex while angry.

For me personally, if I'm angry with someone, or if I'm scared, then sex is not likely to happen, and I'm not going to be aroused easily if I'm angry. That said, I DO manage excessive anger in part by intense exercise (and sauna) which helps me sweat out the stress related chemicals while also breaking down a chemical put out by the adrenal glands (that anger also spurs the adrenal to put out), and enough of it released endorphins, so if you're habitually angry from daily activities then I can understand how sex would work for you from a mental PoV. (And that's even before taking into account how WEIRD a lot of sexuality is, that is weird is normal but people are discouraged from talking about what doesn't fit a narrowly defined path.)


That makes sense! Thank you.
I think they are more shocked than freaked out ... Knowing my appearance and personality that can be quite shocking and unexpected. I understand, I would be surprised by myself too.
Usually I'm not dominant, but when I initiate it I come off as very dominating due to my intense anger ... Hence the confusion.

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posted November 24, 2013 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone for the input!

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posted November 25, 2013 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeepFreeze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So are you angry WITH the person that you are having sex with?
I'm not at all saying it's weird or wrong, just curious.

This one relationship that I had for about 10 months was like that - her, not me. Long story though, it was just complete, psychological, manipulating, controlling hell.
She ALWAYS wanted to have sex when she was angry with me, which was often. That's the last thing on my mind when I'm angry with the person. I just want to go away or for them to go away.
I ended really having to go through with it because of her craziness. There was no reasonable way out. Strange having sex with someone you hate.
We were just opposite. I don't know how we even got together.

That all said though, could it work for me? Sure. It could. If normally the relationship is pleasant, then it might be a big turn on actually.

I've heard a saying once about women - "Sex starts in the morning." Meaning, you treat her well all day to get your sex at night.
I must be a woman then because that applies to me. It's everything else that sets it up for me. If that's all good but she's angry with me for something and wants to do it? Lets go!

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posted November 25, 2013 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey op, I'm the same away, I get really angry and frustrated easily.
You're an aries too, this is why I love Aries placements..
We get so agressive and I love that.

Angry sex is my favorite sex.. when I'm angry is the only time I initiate otherwise I'm just naughty and like to do things here and there but not nessarily go all the way.

I'm not really dominating and really want my partner to also release anger and frustration on me.
Sometimes I argue or say things to get a reaction from my partner when I'm in the mood :P

Needless to say it would never work out with libra, actually you at least need have moon, venus or mars in Aries.

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posted November 26, 2013 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
So are you angry WITH the person that you are having sex with?
I'm not at all saying it's weird or wrong, just curious.

This one relationship that I had for about 10 months was like that - her, not me. Long story though, it was just complete, psychological, manipulating, controlling hell.
She ALWAYS wanted to have sex when she was angry with me, which was often. That's the last thing on my mind when I'm angry with the person. I just want to go away or for them to go away.
I ended really having to go through with it because of her craziness. There was no reasonable way out. Strange having sex with someone you hate.
We were just opposite. I don't know how we even got together.

That all said though, could it work for me? Sure. It could. If normally the relationship is pleasant, then it might be a big turn on actually.

I've heard a saying once about women - "Sex starts in the morning." Meaning, you treat her well all day to get your sex at night.
I must be a woman then because that applies to me. It's everything else that sets it up for me. If that's all good but she's angry with me for something and wants to do it? Lets go!


No, I would be angry from other people or stressed out from work and education. I won't have sex with a person when I'm angry with him UNLESS he's angry with me too.

Having sex with someone I hate seems very appealing to me. There's something about it. At a moment you're the closest anyone can get to this person, and yet choose not to destroy them but exchange passion. Tear out all the barriers and absorb their energy, while injecting your hatred for them.

What was her sign? Any aspects to speak of between you and her?

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posted November 26, 2013 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vickymadness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kerosene:
Hey op, I'm the same away, I get really angry and frustrated easily.
You're an Aries too, this is why I love Aries placements..
We get so agressive and I love that.

Angry sex is my favorite sex.. when I'm angry is the only time I initiate otherwise I'm just naughty and like to do things here and there but not nessarily go all the way.

I'm not really dominating and really want my partner to also release anger and frustration on me.
Sometimes I argue or say things to get a reaction from my partner when I'm in the mood :P

Needless to say it would never work out with libra, actually you at least need have moon, venus or mars in Aries.


Interesting you said that, one of the two guys who didn't prefer it that way was a Libra. Sex was his favorite topic, he would talk, and talk and talk ... but when it comes down to the real business he sucks bigtime.
Now the current partner is an Aries, he's my granted wish, I literally wouldn't ask for more.

Me too, I like to provoke feelings, entice anger in someone ... or just tease aggressively, that's how I flirt or foreplay.

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