posted March 21, 2014 10:04 PM            

Here is a Clear Cut Explanation of what it actually means.
“The four dimensions of our sexuality are the physical, intellectual, emotional and spiritual”.Most people make the mistake to think that our sexuality is limited to the physical and that we are sexual only when we are having sex. That is a lie. God created all people as sexual beings, whether they have sex or not,”the author explains.
“Our sexuality is not what we do. Even people who have decided to be celibate are sexual beings. Our sexuality is who we are and we are created with a body, a mind, a heart and spirit, not just with a body. Therefore sexual integrity is not just involved with physical purity. It goes about purity in all four facets of our being (body, mind, heart and spirit). When all four facets are in balance with each other, then our our lives will display balance and integrity.”

posted March 21, 2014 10:52 PM            

Also - there are many people who can be positive in your life - and who you can have very happy, healthy and good sexual experiences with

But they have to be on the same wavelength as you are... You can feel this on an energy level.
You have to really tune into your deeper *self*.. your higher self (or whatever you believe in) and you have to really figure out - how you feel about that person.
Some people *click* - and some don't click.
If you don't click - then don't have sex!
That's my advice...

posted March 21, 2014 11:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
Integrity is just staying true to yourself.. and getting *close* when the other person's aura/soul/alma mashes well with your own -- so that you can create positive things together - and make the world a better place.

Also - there are many people who can be positive in your life - and who you can have very happy, healthy and good sexual experiences with

But they have to be on the same wavelength as you are... You can feel this on an energy level.
You have to really tune into your deeper *self*.. your higher self (or whatever you believe in) and you have to really figure out - how you feel about that person.
Some people *click* - and some don't click.
If you don't click - then don't have sex!
That's my advice...

That ^ is sexual integrity. Keeping it *real* with real people.
It's not about the quantity - It's about the quality.

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posted March 22, 2014 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by rajji:
Here is a Clear Cut Explanation of what it actually means

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Can you either explain what is meant or link to a website that does? We don't all have the context to accurately understand what's trying to be conveyed with what you've shared. Even plenty who think they understand will have a different understanding from you because they'll see it through the lens of a context different from yours (and you can even mistake each other for being in agreement because no one ever bothers to define what they mean). I expect the author would appreciate being named anyway, and those particularly interested in this may want to check out the book (or a site summing it up).

For example, what does "purity" mean? Virginity? Only one partner...for life? Pure passion without reserve or pure selfless love in which sex is just a side dish so that it's more sublime than passionate? And does it refer strictly to acts of sexuality or the very thought/temptation of it? What if one was seduced (or worse) while in a vulnerable state, are they still pure? Different people have different answers for these questions, and the various Christian churches and laws of state have reflected changing views regarding such concepts throughout history and continue to do so today (and will again tomorrow). How would your author define purity?

posted March 22, 2014 12:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
AG - It's all energy my darling.. and being that close on a physical level - you are obviously connecting with every fibre of your being

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posted March 22, 2014 01:42 AM            

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:
Yeah. you have a spiritual connection with everyone you think is hot.lol I'm losing faith in humanity

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If you mean me personally -- I have never had a desire to have sex with someone based on their physical appearance.

This has not happened in my entire life on the face of this planet.
That's why I think I'm demisexual.

So the expression: "someone you think is hot" - means something else entirely in my mind.
If I said someone was hot - I would mean that they look like a beautiful painting... not that I wish to have sex.

posted March 22, 2014 01:59 AM            

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No my point was - you don't have a spiritual connection with everyone you think is hot... and it would be much healthier to only f**k those - who you do have a connection with. It's not like they don't exist - or like they are "rare".

'One' (as Padre likes to say.. lol) should get out more!

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posted March 22, 2014 02:25 AM            

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Real connections are indeed rare

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I wouldn't say that they are that rare. Although they are not common either..

I'm trying to think about the last year in my life.. and I have met maybe hmmm three new people who i would say I have a strong connection with.

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I have only experienced it one time in my life up to this point and may never experience it again.

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Well I'm not really talking about a stellar fairytale-like connection.

I just mean people you genuinely click with on a psychological/emotional level - who get you - and who you also get in return.. and who you have a particular kind of interaction/vibe with - a vibe that feels fruitful & creative..
Do you know what I mean?
Some relationship just FEEL creative.. and others feel *dead*.. There is nothing to them.. You can't go anywhere with that person. It's just a dead end street.

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That seems to imply that people who are sleeping around alot are sleeping with people they have soul connections with.

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I was not implying that.

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You can be attracted to someone and get along well with them but that doesnt mean you have a soul connection

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You can't *really* gel with someone - if you don't have a soul connection.. You can't really get in each other's headspace.. and really *feel* who the other person is.

posted March 22, 2014 02:27 AM            

We are all not here to mistake each others understanding of the term sexual integrity.Each one of us can beg to differ as it only has to do with your level of understanding.I might still be at the base level who knows?

Sexual purity is directly proportional to sexual integrity.
Sexual Immorality is equal to Sexual Impurity.
But how many of us thinks of sexual purity everyday?
How do you sustain your physical life?
By blood flow through our nervous system.
which is threatened when those channels are broken.
How do you sustain your relational life?
we must keep sex inside proper channels to sustain relational life as well.
In both cases, losing integrity spells disaster by threatening what sustains life.

'Christ-like love'
All moral purity is a matter of holiness.that includes sex along with everything else. Thus all sexual purity—all truly good sex—is defined by the holiness of God. That’s it. And defining sexual goodness other ways leads to corruption whether by sensation, popularity, or even family stability or health. True sexual purity—the real measure of sexual value—is defined by the holiness of God. Nothing else.

What does keeping sex holy look like? is the immediate question.
There are a few principles,few prohibitions and a few promises that make up for it.
PRINCIPLES
First, truly holy sex is personal.Third, truly holy sex is profound. God designed sex to unite partners at the deepest level of life. It is not trivial or marginal but something at the core of human existence. And because intimacy affects relational depth, there is always something missing and wrong with sex that denies the value of intimacy, that diminishes the significance of gender identity, or that treats sexual activity as simply entertainment or “no big deal.” God made sex for a relationship uniting persons. Sex is corrupted by treating the personal as if it is not. There is always something missing and wrong with sex that denies the relational, that reduces persons to objects, or that turns sex into something mechanical.
Second, truly holy sex is exclusive.
God wants the sexual relationship between persons to be so special it cannot be shared with anyone else. And that means something is missing and wrong with treating a partner in a sexual relationship as if he or she could be replaced, with group sex, or with having sex with anyone who comes along or agrees to a price.
Third, truly holy sex is profound.
God designed sex to unite partners at the deepest level of life. It is not trivial or marginal but something at the core of human existence. And because intimacy affects relational depth, there is always something missing and wrong with sex that denies the value of intimacy, that diminishes the significance of gender identity, or that treats sexual activity as simply entertainment or “no big deal.”
Fourth, truly holy sex is productive. God made sex to serve purposes beyond sex itself. It is not a commodity for consuming, but a capacity for producing. It provides a means to achieve worthy results. Holy sex does not always produce biological children (as when a couple is infertile or a wife passes menopause). But it should always produce something in a marriage relationship that overflows in blessing to others, and there is something missing and wrong with sex for no reason than itself.
Fifth, truly holy sex is selfless.
It is never selfish or self-centered. God made sex very pleasing but not to be squandered selfishly. Sex should satisfy but not be self self-satisfying. Self-centered selfish sex never pleases God, and there is something missing and wrong with sex that is more self-pleasing than it is pleasing to God and to others affected by a person’s sexual behavior.
Sixth, truly holy sex is complex.
It has many dimensions, and we must never deny any. We have not only bodies but also minds and souls, and sex is designed to unite on all levels. Sex never engages the physical without also engaging the mental, emotional and spiritual, and something is missing and wrong with sex that pretends either to reduce sex to one dimension or to isolate one dimension from another.
Seventh, truly holy sex is complementary.
Sex unites beings made for one another. Men and women are equally human, but we are not identical. And where we are different, we are different in ways designed to fit or complement each other. This union of corresponding sexual differences is part of God’s plan for human life, and sex that either denies or tries to confuse relationships of corresponding union is never holy and always impure.

posted March 22, 2014 02:40 AM            

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Originally posted by Odette:
You can't *really* gel with someone - if you don't have a soul connection.. You can't really get in each other's headspace.. and really *feel* who the other person is.

What you mentioned is superficial "getting along".

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posted March 22, 2014 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by CatMote:
ive definitely got sexual integrity. i think ive been going downhill though. i think i have so much integrity it turns into idealism and a false idealism at that. what i want becomes so clear and defined that i have trouble accepting people and myself, for the way we are. i wind up with nothing.

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posted March 22, 2014 04:55 AM            

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if you are jumping from bed to bed with different people.

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hmmm jumping from bed to bed?

Me thinks there is a bit of a grey area between having one or two soulmates on the one hand.... and .... jumping from bed to bed on the other.... e.g: ten sexual partners in a lifetime of say 70 yrs.
^ This wouldn't strike me as odd at all - nor would I refer to it as 'jumping from bed to bed'.

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This high-profile book published in 2008 said the average Australian woman had 13 sexual partners in their lifetime (the findings were drawn from an online study). But condom manufacturers Durex suggest Australian women will have 11 sexual partners on average over their lifetime, with men ringing in at 24. Not quite the lore of the academy, but there you go. Interestingly, the latest official figures from the United Kingdom are quite a bit lower – 9 partners on average for men, 4 on average for women...
Of course, these numbers refer to the sum total of sexual partners over a lifetime, not the number of people you’ve slept with so far. Thus, presuming you’re a single in the 20-to-30-something age bracket, that number may not have been reached yet. You might want to factor the median age of first-marriage in Australia (30 years) into your calculations...

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posted March 22, 2014 05:45 AM            

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hmmm jumping from bed to bed?

Me thinks there is a bit of a grey area between having one or two soulmates on the one hand.... and .... jumping from bed to bed on the other.... e.g: ten sexual partners in a lifetime of say 70 yrs.
^ This wouldn't strike me as odd at all - nor would I refer to it as 'jumping from bed to bed'.

[QUOTE]This high-profile book published in 2008 said the average Australian woman had 13 sexual partners in their lifetime (the findings were drawn from an online study). But condom manufacturers Durex suggest Australian women will have 11 sexual partners on average over their lifetime, with men ringing in at 24. Not quite the lore of the academy, but there you go. Interestingly, the latest official figures from the United Kingdom are quite a bit lower – 9 partners on average for men, 4 on average for women...
Of course, these numbers refer to the sum total of sexual partners over a lifetime, not the number of people you’ve slept with so far. Thus, presuming you’re a single in the 20-to-30-something age bracket, that number may not have been reached yet. You might want to factor the median age of first-marriage in Australia (30 years) into your calculations...

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posted March 22, 2014 10:08 AM            

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I might still be at the base level who knows?

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Oh that you are considering the fact that you have defined the dynamics of a relationship is such a NARROW CONSTRICTED view while at the same time, totally neglecting the variables present in the ever changing aspects of human sexuality.

In other words, you took something so beautiful and exciting and turned into such a mundane activity. My goodness...

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'Christ-like love'
All moral purity is a matter of holiness.that includes sex along with everything else. Thus all sexual purity—all truly good sex—is defined by the holiness of God. That’s it. And defining sexual goodness other ways leads to corruption whether by sensation, popularity, or even family stability or health. True sexual purity—the real measure of sexual value—is defined by the holiness of God. Nothing else.

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Yeah, here is my perspective on the matter; If an omnipotent being who pretty much created the whole universe, does exists, then apart from a moral obligation of not doing an action beyond the scope of your agreed upon consent with your partner, I doubt this particular being really cares as to what goes on in your bedroom. As such, YOU define the scope of your own spiritual connection with the other person and find your divinity through that; And not through some mundane pre-defined notion of "holy sex" (give me a break...)

Read this thread of mines:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum27/HTML/001652.html

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Third, truly holy sex is profound. God designed sex to unite partners at the deepest level of life. It is not trivial or marginal but something at the core of human existence. And because intimacy affects relational depth, there is always something missing and wrong with sex that denies the value of intimacy, that diminishes the significance of gender identity, or that treats sexual activity as simply entertainment or “no big deal.” God made sex for a relationship uniting persons. Sex is corrupted by treating the personal as if it is not. There is always something missing and wrong with sex that denies the relational, that reduces persons to objects, or that turns sex into something mechanical.

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So you pretty much want to ignore the mechanics of the human body all together and focus exclusively on yet another "opinionated" idea of purity. Oi Vey... Its no wonder that women and men have such a hard time connecting with their sense of sexuality with jargen like this being thrown around. While I agree that Sex has the capacity to be personal, it IS NOT A REQUIREMENT for sex to be a FULFILLING ACTIVITY WITHOUT A PERSONAL CONNECTION.

The quicker relationship oriented people realize that, the better since they can try to forge a bond in a relationship first and THEN move on towards sexual connectivity.

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Second, truly holy sex is exclusive.
God wants the sexual relationship between persons to be so special it cannot be shared with anyone else. And that means something is missing and wrong with treating a partner in a sexual relationship as if he or she could be replaced, with group sex, or with having sex with anyone who comes along or agrees to a price.

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Once again; You TOTALLY ignored the reality of the world around you. You can sure bet that these days, a happy, healthy individual probably has had one or two sexual encounters before they move on towards a more "exclusive" relationship. To hammer down some "idealistic" one partner approach to the mix only ends up limiting a person's chances to TRULY find their perfect match.

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Third, truly holy sex is profound.
God designed sex to unite partners at the deepest level of life. It is not trivial or marginal but something at the core of human existence. And because intimacy affects relational depth, there is always something missing and wrong with sex that denies the value of intimacy, that diminishes the significance of gender identity, or that treats sexual activity as simply entertainment or “no big deal.”

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See the link to the thread I posted.

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Sixth, truly holy sex is complex.
It has many dimensions, and we must never deny any. We have not only bodies but also minds and souls, and sex is designed to unite on all levels. Sex never engages the physical without also engaging the mental, emotional and spiritual, and something is missing and wrong with sex that pretends either to reduce sex to one dimension or to isolate one dimension from another.

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... And yet you chose to completely ignore the complexity of the human mind and sexuality and defined it all with a mundane view, blanketed with obtuse views of "spirituality." To understand the complexity of sex is to understand the individual and I assure you, there will be individuals out there who are more then content with living a life without the presence of a deity guiding a "purpose" of the simple mutually agreed upon act of sedating their carnal desires. And I for one have seen them produce happier families and live more productive lives.

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Seventh, truly holy sex is complementary.
Sex unites beings made for one another. Men and women are equally human, but we are not identical. And where we are different, we are different in ways designed to fit or complement each other. This union of corresponding sexual differences is part of God’s plan for human life, and sex that either denies or tries to confuse relationships of corresponding union is never holy and always impure.

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Once again you have a very narrow minded view of the human psyche. You need to look at sexuality beyond just the concept of gender defined notions of male and female and look upon it through an individual's POV. What might apply to 60% of either the male or female population of the world will not apply to the rest of the 40%. As such, defining sexuality through gender based idealism is an outdated concept and frankly, has no place in the modern world.