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Kerosene
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posted May 10, 2014 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
this was my childhood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz7E78-VQFw

Honestly I feel like cramming copious amounts of information for a brief period of time was useless.
I don't remember details about the french revolution.. except Kirsten Dunst got beheaded lol
How on earth did i even get through calculus oh yeah..
ADDIES.

anything I remember is from figuring it out myself just like these kids. .

imb4 school does not prepare you for the real world, thou that's what they claim.
if they are willing they can study for the sats or whatever exam needed for college I don't see what the point is. I feel like I started learning more in college from the lack busy work and having to prepare for just 3 exams through out the semester.

Unless their going to private school the education children are receiving is poor,


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PixieJane
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posted May 10, 2014 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The book that explains how it work (aimed at teens and their parents) is The Teenage Liberation Handbook. There are also services in the US that cater to them, including the NBTSC.

Different kids benefit more from different approaches. But generally speaking I see the public education system as a type of foot binding for the mind, one that prepares people to serve in a dysfunctional office or take orders without question (even the rebels serve their purpose, at least the ones that never mentally rebel and who reject all education as "schooling"). Not that I think teachers cackle with evil glee (the system is as frustrating and mentally binding to them as it is kids), though when schools were first established as we know them today then it was on purpose (called making "good citizens") and was naturally made for the benefit of the system in place rather than to "help the kids be all they can be."

Even school lunches served the state when they first came out helping to turn boys into good soldiers and making sure girls could give birth to more healthy boys (to become good soldiers). That's because at the time too many kids weren't getting the nutrition they were needing which contributed to fertility problems and men unfit for military duty so they were given healthy foods designed to pack on weight, cheap or free if necessary, mixed with a physical regimen (naturally harder on boys to prepare them for basic training and easier on girls as many needed more body fat to have healthy babies or even just get through puberty) though a lot of things have changed since that was started and school lunches have only recently started to adapt to those changes.

As for me I taught myself everything from reading to multiplication before school got around to it. It was all mostly a waste of time that hampered my education rather than facilitated it and I think I learned more in 2 years of unschooling (that I did 17-18) than I did in all my years of school. In fact, I learned things that my school had gotten wrong. What was most ironic is that I became more popular with high school kids after I dropped out than when I was in school, and outside of school I also had friends of all ages (whom I could talk to freely rather than sitting next to quietly) so that I developed greater social skills and maturity than I could inside a school as well.

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Faith
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posted May 10, 2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Faith
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posted May 10, 2014 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:
The Teenage Liberation Handbook.

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mirage29
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posted May 12, 2014 09:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodidacticism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_(book)
http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Neill%2C_Alexander
http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/bobmarks.htm

Just sharing the ref urls....

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Padre35
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posted May 12, 2014 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Padre35     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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As for me I taught myself everything from reading to multiplication before school got around to it. It was all mostly a waste of time that hampered my education rather than facilitated it and I think I learned more in 2 years of unschooling (that I did 17-18) than I did in all my years of school. In fact, I learned things that my school had gotten wrong. What was most ironic is that I became more popular with high school kids after I dropped out than when I was in school, and outside of school I also had friends of all ages (whom I could talk to freely rather than sitting next to quietly) so that I developed greater social skills and maturity than I could inside a school as well.

Totally agree, the times of my greatest learning and leaps in knowledge was not sitting in some boring classroom, it was when i had to go it alone.

Could smell the BS of the "School System" a mile away..when in "school" i felt dead, like a drone, when left to my own ends, never felt more alive

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Odette
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posted May 12, 2014 09:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I definitely won't send my kids to a typical school.

Montessori sounds good to me - so it's a possibility: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montessori_education

I don't 'wish' my childhood or teen years were different because I'm happy with where I am now. But I would prefer my kids to go to an entirely different school or be home schooled.
Schools that fit the profile: private, religious, unisex, with compulssory uniform - disgust me to no end. My kids are not setting foot in that environment.

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Unless their going to private school the education children are receiving is poor

Do you really think private schools are better at providing education than public schools?
I have been to both and the only difference was that the private school students were completely sheltered and clueless about real life - out of touch with any sense of reality.
But the level of education (in the actual classes taught) was exactly the same.

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