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Topic: Preacher calls out single men
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9355 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 06:35 PM
Someone else posted this on another forum and I thought it would be worth posting here. This preacher gets heated and calls out single guys and calls them "Eunuchs" and basically calls then wussies. This is coming from a preacher of a christian church, a religion that often get called misogynistic and patriarchal by its critics. But you sure wouldn't know it by the way this preacher bashes his fellow men. I have heard local preachers go off on the male members of their congregations just as bad as this dude. In fact this is partly the reason I quit going to church. The churches are just as feminized and anti-male as the rest of American society. Notice how he puts all the responsibility on men and never even seems to question why men are feeling the way they do and maybe... just maybe... the fact that men are becoming more hesitant to make moves on women has something to do with the fact that womens behavior has fundamentally changed. It amazes me how clueless most people are to the fact that dating/relationship dynamics have changed and we arent living in the 40s or 50s anymore. Yet our society seems content to continue blaming everything on men at all levels. We are never going to make any positive progress towards understanding the situation unless we start questioning womens roles in all of these problems. http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WL4qn8cQLhk IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54592 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 06:47 PM
Yes, a woman needs to be a lady if a man is to be a gentleman ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 6583 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 06:47 PM
*gets ready for the show*------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 778 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 06:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: [b]Yet our society seems content to continue blaming everything on men at all levels. [/B]
This is just one man. Just ignore stupid. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9355 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 06:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Yes, a woman needs to be a lady if a man is to be a gentleman
You are exactly right. But you will never see a preacher calling out women and telling them to act more like ladies. They will belittle and criticize the men to high heavens though while stroking the egos of their female congregants. Is it any wonder that men are starting to leave churches? Its all becoming a joke except for the fact that it isnt funny. IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9355 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 06:54 PM
quote: Originally posted by Sibyl: This is just one man. Just ignore stupid.
Yes this is just one example but this sort of thing is going on all the time in churches. Notice how he revealed things that men told him in confidence? Humiliating someone in front of a group of people is not a way to inspire confidence. IP: Logged |
MsPrism Knowflake Posts: 1693 From: Registered: Jun 2013
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posted May 14, 2014 06:54 PM
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9355 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 06:58 PM
Its funny that he brought up Boaz because Boaz was a man in the bible who was pursued by a woman, Ruth. Yet he is calling men Eunuchs and wussies for being shy.IP: Logged |
MoonWitch Moderator Posts: 1550 From: The Beach Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 14, 2014 06:59 PM
quote: Originally posted by MsPrism:
lawls! It truly is comedic. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54592 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 07:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by I'm so cappy: *gets ready for the show*
------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54592 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 07:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by MsPrism:
------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54592 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 07:09 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Its funny that he brought up Boaz because Boaz was a man in the bible who was pursued by a woman, Ruth. Yet he is calling men Eunuchs and wussies for being shy.
Yes, Ruth did pursue Boaz. She must have had venus in Aries ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 778 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 07:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Yes this is just one example but this sort of thing is going on all the time in churches. Notice how he revealed things that men told him in confidence? Humiliating someone in front of a group of people is not a way to inspire confidence.
Sorry, but I don't notice anything. I didn't watch it because I can't be bothered to listen to stupid. Ignorance is bliss, my friend! Just be yourself and find people like yourself, and be happy. I mean obviously if you met this guy I would expect you to disagree with him, but unless you decide to track him down I don't think that's going to happen. IP: Logged |
Sibyl Knowflake Posts: 778 From: Uranus Registered: Dec 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 07:22 PM
Or, if you are really very bothered by this why don't you attend one of these churches and seek reform? I always say it is better to be standing on the inside criticizing than on the outside. Which is obviously why I'm in politics IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 1651 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 07:28 PM
And this is exactly why I strongly believe that he is only starting these topics to get a rise out of people here, it's not about being "politically correct" at all. Ami, please close this thread. And *if* for some reason this thread doesn't get closed, can we all just ignore AG and not take the bait? Yes, you may want to debate or prove your point to him, but it is clear that over the course of these last few days (and even before then) your efforts will go in vain because he is already firmly set into his beliefs. You can't help people that don't want to be helped themselves. IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 4266 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 07:28 PM
quote: I have heard local preachers go off on the male members of their congregations just as bad as this dude.
And you've never heard religious hatred directed at women? IP: Logged |
Odette Moderator Posts: 4266 From: Registered: May 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 07:33 PM
quote: he is already firmly set into his beliefs.
I don't think that's the biggest problem. If he was having a happy sex life with a woman who fits his standards.. AG wouldn't be on LL at all. So the problem is personal rather than political. He asks himself: Why don't I have this woman in my life? Why isn't my life a joyful string of emotional and sexual experiences with the woman of my dreams? And then he comes up with political answers to explain why his life isn't what he wants it to be. IMO.. AG - you focus only on things in the outside world that explain and reinforce your problem. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 54592 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted May 14, 2014 07:33 PM
And *if* for some reason this thread doesn't get closed, can we all just ignore AG and not take the bait?I think people have to learn coping skills. If a thread is offensive to you, ignore it. It took me 6 years to do it but now I have a website that is Number 2 in the Google rankings. Do you know the many people who come on to try to hassle me?
I learned life skills, like this, at LL, and so, I hope others can get the wonderful advantages I did. Randall says Mods should close threads when there is no point but insults. I try to follow that, my Friend ------------------ Want To Ask Any Question About Bible Prophecy? Go For it. It is Free, of course. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9355 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 07:34 PM
quote: Originally posted by Chiemi: And this is exactly why I strongly believe that he is only starting these topics to get a rise out of people here, it's not about being "politically correct" at all. Ami, please close this thread. And *if* for some reason this thread doesn't get closed, can we all just ignore AG and not take the bait? Yes, you may want to debate or prove your point to him, but it is clear that over the course of these last few days (and even before then) your efforts will go in vain because he is already firmly set into his beliefs. You can't help people that don't want to be helped themselves.
Yes obviously... Because everyone who says something you dont like is trying to make you made. *sarcasm*IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9355 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 07:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by Odette: I don't think that's the biggest problem. If he was having a happy sex life with a woman who fits his standards.. AG wouldn't be on LL at all. So the problem is personal rather than political. He asks himself: Why don't I have this woman in my life? Why isn't my life a joyful string of emotional and sexual experiences with the woman of my dreams? And then he comes up with political answers to explain why his life isn't what he wants it to be. IMO.. AG - you focus only on things in the outside world that explain and reinforce your problem.
I dont try. This stuff is just there.. And yes it is partly a political issue.IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3462 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 07:45 PM
Convoluted subject AG, b/c Organized Christianity teaches celibacy outside of marriage, so in essence what he is saying is start marrying congregation! Don't be eunuchs!Cynic in me is a bit dubious as to his actual motives. I do not really have an answer tbh, common sense would tell me he is operating from a frame of reference of Roman Empire era societies with low life expectancies. Basically, if one buys what he is selling, no pre marital sex, no sex outside of marriage, and just take the plunge, it will all work out. Which sounds massively foolish in modern Society IP: Logged |
Chiemi Moderator Posts: 1651 From: Michigan Registered: Feb 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 07:52 PM
Edit: My post was actually a tad immature on my part.IP: Logged |
aquaguy91 Moderator Posts: 9355 From: tennessee Registered: Jan 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 08:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Padre35:
Convoluted subject AG, b/c Organized Christianity teaches celibacy outside of marriage, so in essence what he is saying is start marrying congregation! Don't be eunuchs!Cynic in me is a bit dubious as to his actual motives. I do not really have an answer tbh, common sense would tell me he is operating from a frame of reference of Roman Empire era societies with low life expectancies. Basically, if one buys what he is selling, no pre marital sex, no sex outside of marriage, and just take the plunge, it will all work out. Which sounds massively foolish in modern Society
Well its the same thing with the mgtow movement and the pua/game communities, by that I mean there are reasons these things exist. But Nobody wants to ask "why" because the answer is too politically incorrect, its just easier to blame it on men and tell us to "man up". It just bugs me to see that so many people are oblivious to what is really going on. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3462 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted May 14, 2014 10:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by aquaguy91: Well its the same thing with the mgtow movement and the pua/game communities, by that I mean there are reasons these things exist. But Nobody wants to ask "why" because the answer is too politically incorrect, its just easier to blame it on men and tell us to "man up". It just bugs me to see that so many people are oblivious to what is really going on.
Oh, so that is what this is all about. You are quite wrong BTW, PUA's have existed for centuries, under different names, Rake etc. Ditto MGTOW, does one supposed it was married men who were the first explorers and Mtn Men? They left an entrenched society to go their own way and find their own destiney. Only difference today is there is more information, in real time, of men doing such things. Consider Hypergamy, a supposedly "new" concept, yet do not the Arthurian Myth, Gwinnevre had the hots for Lancelot. Even Biblically speaking, Joseph and Potifer's wife ring any bells? Now granted, easily obtained divorce, community property, court enforced child support payments, are new things. The basic Truth however, is human sexuality has always been both pliable, and something of a game of seduction that is constantly played. Your beef is, you are not very good nor successful at it, one can complain, or get better at it. As for that pastor's message, fairly obvious he is pandering and fails to recognize attraction, romantic love, are not mental processes they are emotional ones. He can pander all he wishes, won't change that fact o' life IP: Logged |
mercuranian Knowflake Posts: 820 From: chiron Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 14, 2014 10:35 PM
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