posted May 16, 2014 10:46 PM            

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posted May 17, 2014 06:55 AM            

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posted May 17, 2014 09:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

I think there some people, or rather personalities, that simply will not get along..period.

Also think that sarcasm, esp on the internet, either does not go over well, or is supported and it just grows into a full blown..wait for it..meme

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posted May 17, 2014 09:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
It's not ok to hurt people just because you are hurt.

Edit: generic "you"

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I know it was generic, S. I was just thinking about people who hurt others and it is usually their deep, core pain.

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posted May 17, 2014 09:50 AM            

I'm always a little confused about what it means to be a sociopath. Are all sociopaths psychopaths? In that case, they are mostly beyond help, right? As they cannot feel compassion and are purely self-serving creatures?

posted May 17, 2014 10:21 AM            

To me, God can find anyone and change anyone, so I kind of specialize in hard cases

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posted May 17, 2014 10:28 AM            

A psychopath is thought to be a more organized sociopath and hence, more dangerous. He can plan things without ever letting the mask down.

The sociopath will lose it and show people who he is and hence, he is not as dangerous.

One cannot see through the mask of a psychopath, even if one is super intuitive, usually.

My son knew a girl who turned out to me a psychopath and I had NOOOO hint of it, at all.

I felt no psychic feeling etc

They are super, super good at hiding everything

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posted May 17, 2014 11:59 AM            

I used to know one. She was on a mission to hurt my mother for a long time, but is thankfully out of our lives now. It was really scary to see how she manipulated everyone around her and had a complete disregard for people. She enjoyed toying with people's minds, did it just for pleasure. The scariest part of all is that she works in psychiatry.

posted May 17, 2014 02:40 PM            

From my pov it springs from movie depictions and the impersonal nature of large swaths of Western Societies, esp America.

A sort of "which one is wearing the mask, and what are they really hiding behind it?" I'm not sure I agree with AA's thoughts on the matter, in their minds, they are "right" the world is "wrong".

posted May 17, 2014 03:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

I find the fascination with mental disordered socio/psychopaths interesting.

From my pov it springs from movie depictions and the impersonal nature of large swaths of Western Societies, esp America.

A sort of "which one is wearing the mask, and what are they really hiding behind it?" I'm not sure I agree with AA's thoughts on the matter, in their minds, they are "right" the world is "wrong".

Perhaps that is what Paul meant when he said some ppl had a "Seared conscience" in Romans.

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posted May 17, 2014 04:27 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:
Perhaps that is what Paul meant when he said some ppl had a "Seared conscience" in Romans.

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posted May 17, 2014 04:40 PM            

"These people will speak lies disguised as truth. Their consciences have been scarred as if branded by a red-hot iron."

Now it could be said he was speaking of false preachers, I see wider application for his words as the world, especially the West is rife with it from top to bottom.

I've seen supposed pillars of society do it to obtain or acquire power or money, and amongst the poorest, the Jesus Hustle used to try and get into a woman's pants with no shame at all.

posted May 17, 2014 04:56 PM            

The other thing I've seen, going to AA's point, there is little sense of a metaphysical life, everything is externally driven.

posted May 17, 2014 05:24 PM            

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No problem and I can believe it esp if one is a diplomatic capacity "better a soft lie than a hard truth".

The other thing I've seen, going to AA's point, there is little sense of a metaphysical life, everything is externally driven.

There is no sense of a higher purpose, which makes life fairly meaningless, which leads to pain and lashing out and little reason to heed AG's call to "be humble" when such humility is transforming into a doormat.

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posted May 17, 2014 05:43 PM            

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Padre35:
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No problem and I can believe it esp if one is a diplomatic capacity "better a soft lie than a hard truth".

The other thing I've seen, going to AA's point, there is little sense of a metaphysical life, everything is externally driven.

There is no sense of a higher purpose, which makes life fairly meaningless, which leads to pain and lashing out and little reason to heed AG's call to "be humble" when such humility is transforming into a doormat.

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Seems as if we have had this conversation before, like the black cat in the matrix.

posted May 17, 2014 11:05 PM            

When will you learn?

This behavior is the EXACT reason why I question if you really should be a mod. You abuse it.

Your last post was fine, posting the previous one moments before closing it so that YOU could sling your last bit of passive-aggressive mud was not.
Just post the last one and close the dang thing!
Unable to ignore it like you are always preaching?

posted May 17, 2014 11:18 PM            

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Originally posted by Padre35:

I find the fascination with mental disordered socio/psychopaths interesting.

From my pov it springs from movie depictions and the impersonal nature of large swaths of Western Societies, esp America.

A sort of "which one is wearing the mask, and what are they really hiding behind it?" I'm not sure I agree with AA's thoughts on the matter, in their minds, they are "right" the world is "wrong".

Perhaps that is what Paul meant when he said some ppl had a "Seared conscience" in Romans.

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They have been made glamorous. They ARE glamorous in the sense that they have no shame and so have wonderful confidence that we all want.

However, once one gets to know them, the lack of empathy makes them very ugly.

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posted May 17, 2014 11:20 PM            

I don't care if one is a sociopath or anything. God has no labels but for myself, I have learned to deal with this person.

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posted May 18, 2014 12:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:

They have been made glamorous. They ARE glamorous in the sense that they have no shame and so have wonderful confidence that we all want.

However, once one gets to know them, the lack of empathy makes them very ugly.

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I suspect one of the dangers with the current public obsession/glamorization of "Sociopath/Psychopath" is now there is also a veritable legion of wannabe psycho analysts.

All with magic goggles to spot "one of them"

After all there is a list of traits, check the box.."voila!"

The danger of a missed "diagnosis" lays in to hit those traits in a interview there are tests etc, with controls for lying etc, while out in the world, emotions are dealt with as well as projection.

As an example AA, one mentions a "lack of empathy" one of the 20 or so traits, what does that mean, and does 1 of 20 mean a diagnosis?

posted May 18, 2014 07:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Sibyl:
I wonder if a psychopath is born or made.

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I think it is complex. Jupiter is a big factor in conscience. Two of the sociopaths I know have the same signature in their charts. EVERY planet makes a hard aspect to Jupiter except one. In one case, it is the Moon. In the other case, it is Neptune.

In the latter case, both of his parents were sociopaths, he says. He is an amazing artist and the Neptune has some wonderful aspects in which he can kind of go into this great creative part of himself.

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posted May 18, 2014 07:33 AM            

At any rate, my point is that the Jupiter MUST be afflicted to be a sociopath/psychopath imo

Then, we look at the moon, second. However, I believe Jupiter is the key planet in the signature chart of a sociopath.

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