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7thGuardian
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posted May 22, 2014 06:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 7thGuardian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGPjUyVtTQw

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12muddy
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posted May 22, 2014 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sad.

I'm reading the comments on the vid. Interesting.

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Doux Rêve
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posted May 22, 2014 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I liked this comment:
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I think this says more about the French than anything else 

And this one:

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Et on appelle ça des êtres humains -_- "

("And we call that human beings")

Ha ha.

For real though, like some people suggested in the comments, the problem lies in the fact that in the first case, the guy looks like a hobo or a drunk/high person. So people just assume he's sleeping or something. He did cry out for help, and the fact that no one even stopped to see if he was okay was definitely effed up.

In the second case, the guy looked like he was having a "serious" problem as in, a heart attack or something potentially fatal. The contrast was bigger, so people reacted more.

It's still quite sad, though.
We need to teach such things at school.
Anyone should get help if they seem to need it, no matter what they look like. Social conditioning can lead to all kinds of messed up situations.

The part about the woman collapsing in a waiting room was truly shocking. Wtf, seriously.

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PixieJane
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posted May 22, 2014 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could people HEAR that first guy crying out for help? We could, but that may be the benefit of electronics whereas others just heard mumbling or nothing at all. I mainly say that because his voice is loud and clear while I hear almost nothing from anyone around him (including those between him and the cam) which makes me think he's speaking into a mic.

Perhaps that touches on another important aspect of appearance when cameras are involved.

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PixieJane
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posted May 22, 2014 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This applies to that experiment:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect

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Odette
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posted May 22, 2014 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't read the comments Doux.. but I thought the same thing.

The first guy looks like he could be drunk or faking it. I would be worried for my own safety in approaching him.

It's normal to ignore a man who seems drunk or like hobo sleeping on the streets... because it happens so often.
If it happened less often, I'm sure he wouldn't be ignored.
e.g. If this wasn't a main city, at peak hour.. but rather a little village where everyone knows each other.. he would stand out.

Isn't this just logical? I mean if you see an event repeating itself several times.. your mind gets used to it.. so you don't immediately notice it as "strange".
That being said when he actually collapsed to the ground in front of others - they should've done something.

With the woman in the hospital - again - it looked like she was just sleeping. I am not overly surprised that no one noticed. But in her case, if she let them know that she was very ill - they should have checked up on her at regular intervals. I don't know if this is about appearance as much them being slack and not doing their job properly.
I could imagine the same thing happening with a person who is dressed in a suit who collapses in his/her seat (and looks like he/she is sleeping).

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