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Dancing Maenad
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posted August 04, 2014 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which would you choose?

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juniperb
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posted August 04, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
welll, if it is Karmic Duties, would that be a choice or a given ?

I believe we are born to both and the choice is how we achieve the happiness by fullfilling the duties.

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Dancing Maenad
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posted August 04, 2014 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:
welll, if it is Karmic Duties, would that be a choice or a given ?



Hi, Juni!

I believe they may seem as "given" but all of them were chosen, even if not consciously.

However - at a conscious level - with no memory of what (and why!) you chose.. what will it be?

I gather you lean more towards "learn how to love what you have" vs "have what you love"?

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Ayelet
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posted August 04, 2014 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ayelet     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think we can be truly happy unless we fulfill our karmic duties.

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Vajra
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posted August 04, 2014 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by juniperb:

I believe we are born to both and the choice is how we achieve the happiness by fullfilling the duties.


Well put! That's how I see it too. We cannot escape our karma anyway so me might as well try to have a good time while confronting it. Not always easy though.

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PixieJane
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posted August 04, 2014 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happiness.

Guess it's worth pointing out that I don't believe in "karmic duties" as defined by an agenda chosen by us before we're born, don't believe we chose our own parents, and things like that. To me that's just the brain trying to rationalize terrible experiences. Karma is a blind machine (like gravity) to me rather than some script we approved before coming into this life (and then there's those who shape and exploit this belief to control people, such as happens in India). And if someone (mortal or spirit) told me I had a "karmic duty" to do something then they'd better have evidence for the claim.

Had a fascinating nightmare once regarding this, but I don't feel like explaining it now. Suffice to say God (in Kabbalistic form) told me I had to be somewhere bad as I'd murdered someone in a past life and I rebutted the logic very well, IMO, and successfully escaped. Yay for me.

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posted August 05, 2014 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Voix_de_la_Mer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I understand of karma,
the release of bad karma is the path to happiness.

Concepts and semantics aside,
I am always happi-er, when doing what needs done,
and letting go of what no longer serves.


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posted August 05, 2014 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Happiness.

Guess it's worth pointing out that I don't believe in "karmic duties" as defined by an agenda chosen by us before we're born, don't believe we chose our own parents, and things like that. To me that's just the brain trying to rationalize terrible experiences. Karma is a blind machine (like gravity) to me rather than some script we approved before coming into this life (and then there's those who shape and exploit this belief to control people, such as happens in India). And if someone (mortal or spirit) told me I had a "karmic duty" to do something then they'd better have evidence for the claim.


This is pretty much where i've been at for a long time now too.

It's weird when life shatters belief systems you've held for a long time, but it's also freeing. I am happy to admit that when it comes down to it I don't really know a damn thing about anything and if i'm honest, never really did, only thought i did. I don't even want to try and figure it out anymore either.

The word karma gives me a prickly irritating feeling at this point and doesn't sit well. So does the whole choosing parents, life path etc. before birth. Right now I lean toward it being a bunch of BS. And not simply because I feel burned.

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posted August 06, 2014 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FireMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happiness.

Life is too short... Karmic duties come with a whole lot of guilt and I'd like to think at a certain point we can navigate our own destiny.

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I'm so cappy
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posted August 06, 2014 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for I'm so cappy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karma? In my country it's pet food and that's the only karma I believe in Gimme happiness.

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posted August 06, 2014 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hannaramaa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jesus, I've had enough "karmic duties" for one lifetime. I definitely wouldn't mind happiness even if its fleeting.

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posted August 06, 2014 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's a kind of happiness that I think it's everyone's "karmic duty" to attain.

Like T, I'm not sure of anything, but I have this sneaking suspicion that we are here to be alive, cultivate energy, find our peaceful center, and maintain a connection to that core, come hell or high water. Life is for the living.

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posted August 06, 2014 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ellynlvx     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you can put yourself in a good place inside, and Radiate that Happiness, you are doing your part to raise the overall Karma of everyone.

Happy people Are doing their Karmic Duty.

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Randall
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posted August 14, 2014 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Happiness.

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Randall
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posted August 16, 2014 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ideally, one would be happy fulfilling one's duties.

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