posted August 18, 2014 05:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
What's that supposed to mean? We just murder off the ones that didn't ask to born and/or created?

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posted August 18, 2014 06:04 PM              

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
We shouldn't force women to bear the children of their rapists or the product of incest (which increases chances for mental or physical disorder)

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Give it up to someone who wants a kid then.

posted August 18, 2014 06:09 PM              

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Give it up to someone who wants a kid then. Who said it was punishment. It's called taking responsibility for your actions.

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You're going to force a girl to endure the physical and psychological trauma of carrying her abuser's child for 9 months because of some out dated religious "scruple"?

Adoption is even worse because there is a higher chance for the child to be bullied and tormented in orphanages, abused by the parents/family, or going through several families and never really feeling at home.

posted August 18, 2014 06:09 PM            

Who ever said it was punishment? It's called taking responsibility for your actions. 14, 15 or even 13 it doesn't matter, if you have sex you should deal with the consequences that come with it

Well said, Barbie!

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posted August 18, 2014 06:11 PM            

If you want to get technical, nobody should be reproducing unless they are deeply in love and committed. But it happens, which has already been established long ago.

I'm for ending the pregnancy in its early stages.

posted August 18, 2014 06:13 PM              

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
You're going to force a girl to endure the physical and psychological trauma of carrying her abuser's child for 9 months because of some out dated religious "scruple"?

Adoption is even worse because there is a higher chance for the child to be bullied and tormented in orphanages, abused by the parents/family, or going through several families and never really feeling at home.

"Taking responsibility for your actions"
Are you supposed to have sex for procreation only?

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Look I'm not fighting or bickering with you or anyone here about my beliefs. This thread isn't about that. If you wanna make a thread about this then we can carry on there.

Who ever said you had to have sex for just procreation? When did I ever say that? Don't put my words in my mouth please and thank you.

posted August 18, 2014 06:38 PM              

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Look I'm not fighting or bickering with you or anyone here about my beliefs. This thread isn't about that. If you wanna make a thread about this then we can carry on there.

Who ever said you had to have sex for just procreation? When did I ever say that? Don't put my words in my mouth please and thank you.

Every life on this planet was made for a reason. A child created from a heinous situation was made for a reason, a lesson for its parent, grandparents, whomever. Respect my opinion and I'll do the same.

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"Take responsibility for your actions"
^it implies that you do believe the act of sex is supposed to lead to responsibilities to begin with. < what about the people who have sex for fun or without a committed relationship who don't want children?

posted August 18, 2014 06:47 PM              

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
"Take responsibility for your actions"
^it implies that you do believe the act of sex is supposed to lead to responsibilities to begin with.

This is a controversial topic, Barbie. O.P knows this but they created the thread anyway. Controversial = strong opinions. You should expect responses if the person does not agree with what you say.

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"Taking responsibility for your actions", that comes with the territory of having sex, you ...could ...possibly... become....pregnant...? Does it not? That's what I meant.

I didn't say anyone had to or has to agree with me, I'm not wasting my time repeating myself.

posted August 18, 2014 06:53 PM              

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
"Taking responsibility for your actions", that comes with the territory of having sex, you..could...possibly...become....pregnant...? Does it not? That's what I meant.

I didn't say anyone had to or has to agree with me, I'm not wasting my time repeating myself.

Respect my opinion, as in don't argue with me and expect me to submit to whatever it is that you're saying. The world doesn't work that way, I don't work that way. I have a strong opinion, I think everyone here knows this. I'm not afraid to state my opinion even if it's never the most popular or most agreed with. I can handle my own.

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Of course, you can become pregnant. Just like with eating you can become fat, or with driving you can crash. But should you suffer because of the result, or should you fix it?

Just because you have a strong opinion doesn't make it right, neither does it make it immune to criticism. Am I supposed to hold my tongue because you have strong opinions?

posted August 18, 2014 06:54 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Yeah, everything happens for a reason, and most of the time that reason isn't from God, but from a human mind that chooses evil.

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posted August 18, 2014 07:01 PM            

An innocent child gets raped, but because its her child, she should have the baby? Because the physical and emotional trauma wasn't enough?

Unpopular opinion:

PRO-ABORTION: my body, my choice. Flame away.

If my friend gets raped, I'm going to be there for her and if she needs Plan B or an abortion, my a.ss will be there to support her.

Abortion also saves lives too.

Edit: Karka, sometimes I forget you are a teenager, cause: If anyone says this is a "punishment" for having sex at a young age or before marriage how come women get physically punished but men do not?

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posted August 18, 2014 07:05 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is a no win topic lol

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I agree. It's only purpose to get panties and drawers twisted in a bunch.

Life will forever go on

posted August 18, 2014 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Children who are born out of anything but true love are destined to be unstable in one way or another.

If you want to get technical, nobody should be reproducing unless they are deeply in love and committed. But it happens, which has already been established long ago.

I'm for ending the pregnancy in its early stages.

You can't just give it to someone who 'wants' the kid. There are too many kids and too little people wanting the kids.

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Exactly. You can claim to be pro life when you actually make the effort to take care or atleast help some of the many abandoned and abused kids put into the system. It amazes me how some people can be so "pro life" and yet turn a blind eye/have little care in the world for the welfare of children in foster homes.

posted August 18, 2014 07:10 PM              

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Originally posted by Chiemi:
Exactly. You can claim to be pro life when you actually make the effort to take care or atleast help some of the many abandoned and abused kids put into the system. It amazes me how some people can be so "pro life" and yet turn a blind eye/have little care in the world for the welfare of children in foster homes.

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Whoever said that? When did I ever say that? I said adoption. Why does adoption automatically have to mean all that you just said? When I think of adoption I think of picking and choosing a family for the child, that is what I meant.

Anyways you all have a faaaantastic night, I'm done.

posted August 18, 2014 07:20 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is a no win topic lol

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Yep!
Some of these things IMO should be closed right out of the gate because we know how they turn out. It might as well be closed early before emotions run high when we know it's likely to be closed anyway after people are upset.

I'd have just said, "Nope sorry. Topic closed. "

posted August 18, 2014 07:20 PM              

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Okay than Karka. Just keep it moving. There is no reason to derail this thread. I don't give a s hit how nonsensical you think my opinion is or how I sound, it doesn't change [b]THE fact that I will always and forever have it. Yes I'm Christian and damn proud of it, what does that have to do with anything?

Keep your snarky comments to yourself. [/B]

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You are the queen of (struggle) snark. Are you serious?

posted August 18, 2014 07:23 PM            

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posted August 18, 2014 07:26 PM            

If all you can say is I say pro life because everything happens for a reason, you wouldn't stand a chance in front of any jury or judge. Better have a little something more to back up your beliefs than that.

posted August 18, 2014 07:26 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think I am getting wisdom in my old.... I mean YOUNG age

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