posted August 18, 2014 07:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Whoever said that? When did I ever say that? I said adoption. Why does adoption automatically have to mean all that you just said? When I think of adoption I think of picking and choosing a family for the child, that is what I meant.

Anyways you all have a faaaantastic night, I'm done.

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Lol, no need for the dramatics. My reply was to athene. If the shoe didn't fit then there's really no need to defend yourself.

posted August 18, 2014 07:33 PM              

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
Debating is what this forum is about.

If all you can say is I say pro life because everything happens for a reason, you wouldn't stand a chance in front of any jury or judge. Better have a little something more to back up your beliefs than that.

And also saying, I have my beliefs. Well good for you. So do others, and much more valid ones as opposed to musings from someone who believes Jesus created christianity.

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Seems like gang up on Barbie thread because she has an unpopular opinion.
I didn't know we were in a court. Is that what you all think you are?
Seems like it. You sure are in love with judging.
Leave it.

posted August 18, 2014 07:41 PM              

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Seems like gang up on Barbie thread because she has an unpopular opinion.
I didn't know we were in a court. Is that what you all think you are?
Seems like it. You sure are in love with judging.
Leave it.

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No DeepFreeze. Her opinion isn't unpopular. It's popular but that's not problem, her views are shared by people in the government and the people who make the laws.

That's the problem.

posted August 18, 2014 07:43 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Seems like gang up on Barbie thread because she has an unpopular opinion.
I didn't know we were in a court. Is that what you all think you are?
Seems like it. You sure are in love with judging.
Leave it.

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Before you begin to claim that someone else is "judging" please remember that when you point one finger, you have 3 fingers pointing back.

If I recall, there seemed to be a bit of judging from both of you towards Karka not too long ago because of her "unpopular" past actions.

posted August 18, 2014 07:55 PM              

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Such affectation of character.

posted August 18, 2014 08:02 PM              

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posted August 18, 2014 08:05 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
If you have an opinion that is not mainstream or conventionally accepted, people are not going to like it but if you say it, you say it because you need to stand for it but don't expect others to like that lol

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posted August 18, 2014 08:07 PM            

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You weren't. I actually laughed.

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posted August 18, 2014 08:18 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
A Christian will be out of step from the main stream of thinking in this current time. However, one must stand up for what one believes.

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posted August 18, 2014 08:40 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
A Christian will be out of step from the main stream of thinking in this current time. However, one must stand up for what one believes.

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posted August 18, 2014 08:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I don't care what scientist say about it not being a baby yet, it is imo.

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Scientists work so that we can understand the world better, saying something like "I don't care what scientists say" makes it sound like you're just being stubborn...

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Originally posted by aquaguy91:

Well God has a reason for everything. A child coming from such seemingly tragic circumstances could be exactly what the woman needs and a blessing in disguise. I do not believe in abortion, it's evil.

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More often than not, it rather ruins their life.

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Exactly! and if it's that serious the baby could be given up for adoption. There are a number of different alternatives.

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Most alternatives (orphanage, foster care, etc) can have some terribly bad results, sometimes resulting in the child spending his/her life trying to find his/her true parents, and/or getting abused or raped within these institutions. Anyway, in all cases, it's not likely one can just find a family and give them their kid just like that.

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I don't think any child should be aborted. It is not the child's fault how he was conceived. I think every life is precious, no matter if it was conceived in the worst of circumstances.

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Killing someone isn't always a disservice, you know. You can take someone's life if they are suffering too much, cannot escape their suffering, and ask for it. You can take someone's life before it begins, if the body holding it asks for it, and all points to the child's life being pretty terrible if it effectively gets to happen. And, all life is precious? Do you cry when you step on a bug? Beside, many lives get lost everyday, all the time, for various reasons. More death is not going to change the order of the world.

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Or just don't lay down and have sex. If you can have sex then you can deal with the responsibilities that come with it.

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So, let's say a teenager has sex, and accidentally gets pregnant. Must she carry the burden of one mistake (possibly for her whole life if her parents do not want her to abort or to give the child)? Also, are you seriously implying teenagers are not absurdly stupid?

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
What's that supposed to mean? We just murder off the ones that didn't ask to born and/or created?

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Well, yeah, pretty much. Unless you think someone suffering for their whole life because they get raised by someone who can't, or they go through orphanage/foster and don't get good treatment, or they spend their life not being sure of their identity... is a better thing than outight not existing, ergo not suffering?

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:

Every life on this planet was made for a reason. A child created from a heinous situation was made for a reason, a lesson for its parent, grandparents, whomever. Respect my opinion and I'll do the same.

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They are all born for a reason but they cannot die for a reason (and a reasonable reason, for that)?

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I've read the thread, and it does not seem like "everyone" is ganging up on you, as DeepFreeze says, or anyone is actually insulting you for your opinion. Unless I missed something, but then I'd like to see it.

Sorry but I needed to reply to these.
Anyway.
My opinion? Abortion should only be legal depending on the woman's ability to raise a child, and her social conditions. A teenager should get the right to abortion, as she has studies to do, and it likely came from a stupid act anyway. A poor person should get the right to abortion, if she can't even sustain her own life. A rape victim should obviously deserve the right to abort. But a ***** (not a prostitute, but a woman having sex left and right) should not get abortion unless she is extremely poor, as she put herself into these problems and shouldn't just have money wasted on her because she can't think even at her age.

As for the "baby", scientifically, it's not sentient or even a functioning living system as soon as the egg gets fertilized, you know. And preventing a life from beginning sounds better than letting someone be born within the worst situation possible, and suffer their whole life for something they never asked for in the first place. And again, death is not some big bad thing that must be avoided in all possible situations. Everything dies at some point, and I really doubt everyone on this thread has a clean kill count and never ever hurt an insect or a spider.

posted August 18, 2014 09:08 PM              

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
A Christian will be out of step from the main stream of thinking in this current time. However, one must stand up for what one believes.

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One only needs to look at who is getting nasty and mean and that says a lot.

You people are like a pack of wolves. Not satisfied until you've killed your target. I wonder where the real problems lie in who is unable to accept who's opinion.

posted August 18, 2014 09:12 PM              

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
One only needs to look at who is getting nasty and mean and that says a lot.

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Huh? Curious statement.

posted August 18, 2014 09:14 PM              

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Huh? Curious statement.

Christians have been vicious and pushing their beliefs on people for centuries. Who is getting mean and nasty?

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