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athenegoddess
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posted August 18, 2014 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Not true Karka brought religion up and then all of the non-believers attack those that do.

These threads always end the exact same, closed.

Rajji got exactly what they wanted anarchy.



Who says I'm a nonbeliever??

Im just a non follower in a religion that Master Jesus never invented. lol.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well this is pointless.

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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

Who says I'm a nonbeliever??

Im just a non follower in a religion that Master Jesus never invented. lol.


Why do you have to get all defensive?

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athenegoddess
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posted August 18, 2014 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not. lol!

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posted August 18, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Well this is pointless.

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Doux Rêve
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posted August 18, 2014 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*quietly chimes in*

The original question is:

quote:
When Does a Human Life Begin?

which is actually a very interesting question...

I really like Voix de la Mer's take on it.

Stage 3 seems to be the most... "concrete," so to speak:

A fertilized ovum = conception.

But then there's also stage 7, which is even more concrete...

The embryo implants in the uterine lining.

I really don't know about the soul, however. Are "soul" and "life" separate? Or does having a life necessarily imply having a soul? Hm...

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posted August 18, 2014 10:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:

Who says I'm a nonbeliever??

Im just a non follower in a religion that Master Jesus never invented. lol.


Fight instigating post, right there.
The last part and we're accused of starting them?

You guys really are something special

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posted August 18, 2014 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Fight instigating post, right there.
The last part and we're accused of starting them?

You guys really are something special


She makes comments about things that are far from the truth.


She automatically assumes people who deny religion are non believers.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was raped by a good Christian relative when I was 9 years old.
I had already begun my menstrual cycles.
I find it utterly disgusting and heartless that holier than thou Christians believe I was blessed by god or some bullshite and meant to carry an incestuous rape pregnancy to term at the age of 9 years old!

Fortunately I only missed a few periods before the results of rape were purged from my young body.
I have also known too many Christians to be beyond vile when it comes to unwanted pregnancy children. More are like this following example than true loving ones.
In my area it is very "Bible Beltish".
The right to lifers even protest the Planned Parenthood.
I have gone up to these protesters and asked
if they would adopt the unwanted children. Answers range from..
no...its black...
to even...
no way would I want to adopt a crack smoking sl-t's ba$tard brat ! That's what foster care is for you "blank(insert racial slur) lover!
Uh huh.
These narrow minded bigots think scaring teens with Bible quotes will stop them from having sex.
Sex ed has been protested too and hobbled.
And STD's and pregnancy are on the rise.
Teens who use to go to Planned Parenthood and or free clinics for condoms are afraid to now. The holier than thou would harrass and or assault them
PS. Oddly the protesters I have encountered are all white Christians. If their kids mess up they secretly "take care of the "problem"..
what a bunch of hypocrites!

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posted August 18, 2014 10:26 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by athenegoddess:
She makes comments about things that are far from the truth.


She automatically assumes people who deny religion are non believers.


Isn't that the point of non-believer toots?

Lexx I'm very sorry for the pain you've had to endure, but it's not okay to ever judge and assume that all Christian people, people period are like that? Would you want someone to toss you in a group and judge you without even knowing you? Not cool. As a mod of this forum you'd think you'd end this and close this before if gets even more out of hand.

This thread is evident in why SP needs another moderator.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Isn't that the point of non-believer toots?


Well you know what you are? A NON knower. lol.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:

Thank you Lexi. I'm glad you understand my voice.

You're welcome KarkaQueen.
Please see my post about being raped at age 9 after I had early puberty and periods.
No one should be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy;
especially a person who was raped and especially a child as I was.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Isn't that the point of non-believer toots?

Lexx I'm very sorry for the pain you've had to endure, but it's not okay to ever judge and assume that all Christian people are like that? Would you want someone to toss you in a group and judge you without even knowing you? Not cool. as a mod of this forum you'd think you'd end this and close this before if gets even more out of hand.


I DID NOT SAY ALL CHRISTIANS ARE LIKE THAT.
However I stated clearly my personal experiences and if you have a problem reading thee things I experienced, that are fact;
then you are the judging one here, not me.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenegoddess     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Why close the thread?
Stop taking things so personal.

Sorry you went through that Lex. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have yet to judge anyone here, no need to get defensive as it's completely unnecessary. Your post was very insinuating. Anyways like I said earlier I'm very sorry for all of the pain you had to endure. I'd cut off all of the pricks of those ******** .

This topic is so pointless and needs to closed. as it's lost it's purpose.

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:

Thank you Lexi. I'm glad you understand my voice.

quote:
Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
You're welcome KarkaQueen.
Please see my post about being raped at age 9 after I had early puberty and periods.
No one should be forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy;
especially a person who was raped and especially a child as I was.


My heart goes out for you Lexi, you have experienced many pains in this life and you also have great spiritual wisdom too. You are a very strong person for being able to endure all of this. I think it's sickening that some people will condemn you for getting an abortion in cases like this. It shows how the "love everyone" is just a facade to cover delusion and overzealousness.

And I agree about a lot of Christians not giving a **** about the foster care children, how hypocritical that those people were racist and vile but force women to go through pregnancies because "it's a gift from god and full of blessing and love"

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posted August 18, 2014 10:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@ lexx, Athena Goddess, Doux, Mercuranian, Tux, Voix,
Ag, cheimi, ami and Karka.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh, no way... my second post totally vanished. Again.

Man, this is getting old.

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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
Oh, no way... my second post totally vanished. Again.

Man, this is getting old.


Someone closed it and then reopened it maybe that's why?

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posted August 18, 2014 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great.

I totally had an awesome gif in it.

Oh well.


I don't feel like posting it again.
Looks like things have cooled down anyway.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
I have yet to judge anyone here, no need to get defensive as it's completely unnecessary. Your post was very insinuating. Anyways like I said earlier I'm very sorry for all of the pain you had to endure. I'd cut off all of the pricks of those ******** .

This topic is so pointless and needs to closed. as it's lost it's purpose.


My ppost/reply vanished.
I also closed the thread but someone reopened it.

It seems you believe that a 9 year old victim of incestuous rape should carry the rape pregnancy to term.
That is sick reasoning to say the least.
My response was not insinuating but simply the facts and my personal experiences.
That is not insinuating a damn thing; just stating how it was.

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posted August 18, 2014 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
My heart goes out for you Lexi, you have experienced many pains in this life and you also have great spiritual wisdom too. You are a very strong person for being able to endure all of this. I think it's sickening that some people will condemn you for getting an abortion in cases like this. It shows how the "love everyone" is just a facade to cover delusion and overzealousness.

And I agree about a lot of Christians not giving a **** about the foster care children, how hypocritical that those people were racist and vile but force women to go through pregnancies because "it's a gift from god and full of blessing and love"


Thank you KarkaQueen.
It's nice to get some real understanding.
It was a nightmare no child should have to endure.
Thank you for seeing where I was coming from.
No one has a right to judge who has not walked in my shoes.
And yes,
I wish it were not so,
but I have personally encountered in real life,
more nasty Christians when it comes to unwanted pregnancies than understanding compassionate ones.
It is not my fault that is how it has been.


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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
My post/reply vanished.
I also closed the thread but someone reopened it.

It seems you believe that a 9 year old victim of incestuous rape should carry the rape pregnancy to term.
That is sick reasoning to say the least.
My response was not insinuating but simply the facts and my personal experiences.
That is not insinuating a damn thing; just stating how it was.


Ok, cool. Can we all just continue and stop attacking each other's views.

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posted August 18, 2014 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexxigramer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Ok, cool. Can we all just continue and stop attacking each other's views.
I ATTACKED NO ONE.

The topic of this thread is;
When Does a Human Life Begin?


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Originally posted by Lexxigramer:
I ATTACKED NO ONE.

The topic of this thread is;
When Does a Human Life Begin?



I never said YOU did.

It begins when the sperm hits the egg and you become pregnant imo.

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