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Ami Anne
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posted October 25, 2014 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
UGH. Yeah, I've had to deal with mal narcs before. Especially this person I worked with at my old job. The second you threaten their power, the mask comes off and you are fair game. As long as you play into their little chess game and don't question them, you are considered good in the their eyes. But man, this person got so vindictive the minute you refused or deviated from their little chess game.

YES, YES, YES, YES times INFINITY

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posted October 26, 2014 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have not come back to this thread because I wanted to be able to talk from my heart when I did.

I had a an experience in which I got to know a group of sociopaths.

I wanted to interact with people who had little to no empathy.

My mother, a Mal Narc, has an empathy lack but it is not as great as a sociopath, I don't think, but it is on the spectrum, one step below.

Some people feel it is the same as a sociopath. I don't know but it is a lack of empathy.

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posted October 26, 2014 08:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hence, I felt I had to re -feel what I went through as a child.

I learned amazing things there. One was that the Personality Disordered person, whether a sociopath or a Mal Narc, has a fluid personality, as it is called.

They have a personality that is like water. It is not solid.

Hence, one can see why they act the way they do.

If you add lack of empathy to a "fluid" personality, you can understand them better.

I say all this to say that I was given a very, very blessed chart.

The more I do charts, the more I see that my chart was graced with gifts.

HOWEVER, I shut down from having a mother with no empathy.

She would laugh when I was sick. She would mock me.

She would say and do awful things to me.


I shut down and became numb.

I will continue later.

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posted October 28, 2014 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got honest enough with myself to come back and write more.

The hardest person to be honest with is oneself.

Other people are a piece of cake if you are not lying to yourself

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posted October 28, 2014 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a huge awakening as a result of my son working with someone who is exactly like my mother.

My son has been so upset trying to make sense of a person who makes no logical sense.

Just seeing him struggle shows me what I went through.

People don't understand. They want to minimize it because they don't know what to say.

I have felt guilty that I was not better than I was and I tried to act as if I was but I wasn't.

Inside, I was the same.

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posted October 28, 2014 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Seeing him go through this showed me what happened to me and how and why I became numb.

You just can't move in any direction so you shut down.

Then, you don't know what you feel so you make many, many,many mistakes.

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posted October 28, 2014 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What is funny to me now that I am an Astrologer and look at hundreds of charts, probably.

I have an amazing chart. It is like gifts are bestowed on me BUT I seem to be stuck.

I AM stuck. What am I saying

I am very stuck lol

The one really hard thing in my chart has taken me over--Child conj Deja, exact.

It has been inside me and holding me like a vise.

This is the first time I have some clarity on it,emotional clarity.

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posted October 29, 2014 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is what happens to Moon conj Deja( exact to 2 degrees) and Child conjunct Deja, they have a shattering of the personality.

I am Child conj Deja which is less but still impacted.

At 14, I became numb as a defense mechanism. I could not really feel.

I was like under novacaine.

Now, I want to come out of that and I am.

I am wanting to feel non fragmented. That is my goal and was my goal from the time I came on LL, made my website, did my music etc

It is my greatest personal goal

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posted October 29, 2014 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just an aside, if you are in a lot of pain or have really been shut down, the ability to help others will really be a balm for that.

I can do that with Astrology. I love to help with charts at no charge. I enjoy that the most.

I try to spread love through doing my charts and right when I need love back, it always comes back.

That never fails, so if you are in pain, find a way to give love to others and your pain will be helped.

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posted October 29, 2014 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, for me to heal my mother's power-hurt on me, is going to the temple, and hug someone there who isn't well. We are almost 120 people... always one isn't good. Is a balm, because I see that I'm not the only one who suffers, I'm not the only one who tears apart... My heart goes lighter than when I arrived...

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posted October 29, 2014 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, Dani dear, it is so true. The Bible says it is more blessed to give than to receive. The word blessed means happy lol

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posted October 29, 2014 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm blessed to have people like you, Ami, to hear and stay with me

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Yes, Dani dear, it is so true. The Bible says it is more blessed to give than to receive. The word blessed means happy lol


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posted October 29, 2014 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You know, Dani. I look at a lot of charts and we can't choose our mothers, of course.

Some parent/child charts are sooooo hard.

You wonder why. You wonder what chance that child had for a "good life"

I try to make sense of it. I do believe God created us with our charts as part of His plan.

The Bible says that every hair on our head is numbered, so I can extrapolate this to the charts, in which nothing is left to chance, per se.

Hence, this kind of awful mother/daughter relationship must be a part of his plan.

One SINGLE thing made me find God and that was my mother

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posted October 29, 2014 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ami, an old friend (and wise too) told me once: for you to know good, you need to already knew the evil... this pop-up for me while I was reading your last post...

When you return to His presence, you'll have this energy, that the things your mother did you overcomed them!! And I think is His plan for you!!!

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posted October 29, 2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You are such a blessing Dani.

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posted October 30, 2014 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Catalina     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have said this before and been ignored.
You do not have child/dejanira. Go back and look at your chart. Perhaps seeing this in black and white will help you heal this aspect, since it isnt there.

Unless the chart Karka posted for you has the wrong birthdate of course in which case disregard this info. I am not sure where you got it from but my ephemeris tells me child conjuncts saturn (by 4+ deg) not dejanira in your natal.

I will not offer any advice despite wishing to help you because you reject it all as "intellectual". But your perception might change if you release this false fact from your chart.

Meanwhile these so called malignant narcs are also victims. Seeing them and the pain that makes them that way also alters ones persPective if one has empathy themselves. That doesnt mean excusing their behaviour but removes the personal sting from it?

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posted October 30, 2014 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel much better. I managed to really see myself as God sees me, which is beloved. The old thoughts were not real.

They have been long standing and accepted as real but they are not true in reality.

I am feeling happy for the first time since I was 14.

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posted October 30, 2014 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Moon is Lunatic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually..

Cata is right. You don't have that aspect.

I know your birth date and yup. Of course if that date is wrong, then I'm wrong.

Your Child is in Scorpio and Dejanira is in Leo.

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posted October 30, 2014 07:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting. This person working with my son who is driving him crazy has Maniac conj the NN, exact. I found this to be just what the name suggests lol

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posted October 31, 2014 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've mainly had to deal with them on this forum. It's best to realize they know not what they do or say and just stay away from them.

A wise friend told me a long time ago....if you want to meet some of the most effed up people ever, usually with major personality disorders....just join a new age forum. LOL

I've met some screwballs in "real life", but none the caliber that I've found here.

Had I not met certain people here though, I would still be very naive to the darker sides of human nature. I've learned a lot and for that, I will always be thankful.

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posted October 31, 2014 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I've mainly had to deal with them on this forum. It's best to realize they know not what they do or say and just stay away from them.

A wise friend told me a long time ago....if you want to meet some of the most effed up people ever, usually with major personality disorders....just join a new age forum. LOL

I've met some screwballs in "real life", but none the caliber that I've found here.

Had I not met certain people here though, I would still be very naive to the darker sides of human nature. I've learned a lot and for that, I will always be thankful.



You probably see it more on a Forum because people show themselves more. These same people are still out there in regular life


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