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Ami Anne
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posted October 24, 2014 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is my question.

I know most of the technical things but it is the emotional I am interested in.

My mother is a Malignant narcissist for anyone who doesn't know.

I have been struggling with finding my own emotional course apart from her since I was a teen.

I have struggled on here but have not mentioned it for a while.

I just want to hear about other people's experiences from a personal point of view, not the technical things.

Thanks so much!!!

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posted October 24, 2014 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DaniPepper87     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, my mother and grandma are taken as "Good women" in the place I live. Sure, they can be when just is the case they need more, and I was raised to become like them... To have the perfect life, you need to have a unhappy marriage, to be unhappy all the times...

In my teen years, I said: no way! I feel bad when I try this! I can't take a smile when I'm sad!

Now I don't bother a lot, I have my own problems to deal. I usually said to people: you don't know half of the story, don't know how they really are at home...

Sorry Ami to tell you again this, but I'm a little down, tSun is into my 12th house... you know the feeling in the natal chart of this one...

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posted October 24, 2014 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Never say you are sorry, Dani. You are REAL and I need that.

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posted October 24, 2014 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will describe what I am going through later. I appreciate not being alone and that is why I did this thread.

No one apologize for being real about your life or your pain.

Healing comes when we take off our masks.

I think that is my journey

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Ami, do you feel your mother has given you any gifts? Is there a silver lining to her dysfunction?

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posted October 24, 2014 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I need to just talk.I will try to be as real as I can.

If anyone disses me because there is usually one or two people who do, I will ignore lol

Ok--I had a kind of powerful spiritual experience.

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posted October 24, 2014 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My son and I pray together and hear from God for each other.

He has a person at work who was tormenting him.

He was like a wreck from this person.

She would be nice, mean, nice, mean, try to have a predator spirit on him, be his best friend on and on and on

My son is very social and very charming--Libra Venus at 0 degrees.

He is always loved and appreciated at his job

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posted October 24, 2014 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, he tried to win her over. He is good at being part of a group and manages to get even the sociopaths to like him. He had one of those a while back.

He tried the best he could to make this person act "normal" to him.

However, she kept doing the whole gamut--sweet,mean, loved him, watched him for any flaw, apologized, loved him, etc etc

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posted October 24, 2014 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He went through a lot of angst about this.

We were praying about it and God showed him that this was what *I* lived with as a child.

God showed him how scary it was and how damaging.

I feel he was the first person who ever understood me.

It was POWERFUL

I will write more later. It is very emotional for me.

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posted October 24, 2014 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am having a really hard time being real because I want to hide.

Today at my music lesson, my teacher said he had never seen someone who has such a hard time letting go with singing.

My face fell and he told me I was going great with everything but letting go.

I told him that I had to hold myself together with safety pins so I did not go insane from my mother.

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posted October 24, 2014 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fenia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
This is my question.

I know most of the technical things but it is the emotional I am interested in.

My mother is a Malignant narcissist for anyone who doesn't know.

I have been struggling with finding my own emotional course apart from her since I was a teen.

I have struggled on here but have not mentioned it for a while.

I just want to hear about other people's experiences from a personal point of view, not the technical things.

Thanks so much!!!


My brother suffers from narcissistic personality disorder and I have avoidant personality disorder. I believe it's because of the disfactional family we grew up in and the abusive father.
I can get along with him some days of the month because we agree in several point of views in life but when it gets bad it's really bad. He can be abusive and dangerous if he feels threatened.. he's like a little baby that has to get his way and i find it so unfair i can't cope with it. So,usually I withdraw myself from him and my environment and cut any form of communication and life goes on.. He refuses to get therapy because he can't accept he has problems.

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posted October 24, 2014 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I think I need to just talk.I will try to be as real as I can.

If anyone disses me because there is usually one or two people who do, I will ignore lol

Ok--I had a kind of powerful spiritual experience.


Just ignore anyone who does that, these topics are nothing to laugh or joke about. Just keep talking- this will help you get stronger and work towards healing.

I can relate to some of what you are talking about- it took me many years to finally stand up for myself and not take crap from people. Take it one step at time, these things are never easy.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 24, 2014 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Bella. I don't want to waste anyone's time being fake so i am trying to go deep and really share what I am feeling. Thank you for listening

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posted October 25, 2014 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Ami Anne
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posted October 25, 2014 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, V. I am gonna come back and study your post, so please leave it on for a bit, if you could.

I figured some things out. Alice Miller says that when people are abused, they need an Enlightened Witness in order to heal.

Most people try to "help" you with "reason". Most people are trying to help. Some are just harassing you but that is very few.

Most people who see someone in pain will try to offer genuine help but it will be intellectually based such as " it is your life now, don't waste it on her, it happened a long time ago, you are great so what does it matter?"

These are examples of many of things people tell me. It makes me feel like more of a failure because I CAN"T get over it.

I can pretend I did but I have not.

However,Alice Miller writes about the thing that my son did.

He went down to the depths of it and he experienced it, as V seemed to do.

He WALKED it. I could feel that he KNEW.

I had a great deal of pain leave. That is part of the story up until now but there is more.

The rest is harder to tell. It is about how I feel such shame about who I am. That shame hurts really badly.

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posted October 25, 2014 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have many things I want to say but I don't want to just talk crap so I will come back when I can say them.

I am talking about your core self getting really fragmented and how to get it back.

This aspect in the chart would be Dejanira conj the Moon, first of all, and Child conjunct Dejanira, second.

I have the latter. The former is the hardest aspect in charts, bar none, in my opinion.

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posted October 25, 2014 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please, keep sharing your experiences though. I really, really appreciate it.

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posted October 25, 2014 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
V

I just read the part about people becoming like ghosts.

That is exactly what happens. That is exactly what I am trying to recover from.

Thank you for understanding!

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posted October 25, 2014 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 25, 2014 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Beautiful V. Thank you. I was hoping for this kind of heartfelt info!

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posted October 25, 2014 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is the thing with Mal Narcs. They are evil. The evil does not come from killing baby kittens or pulling the hair off puppies. It comes from the MASK.

They will try to destroy anyone who tries to take off the mask. The mask is lies.

Read "People of the Lie" by Peck. It is a brilliant work on the Mal Narc.

If you have to be around a Mal Narc for any reason, the lies will start to surface. At that point, you are in danger because the Mal Narc will start to try to destroy you if you are any sort of threat to their mask.

They have a mask of perfection so people, so you will only see who they are when they attack you.

It will take other people, on the outside, a great deal of time to see the nature of them, too.

In time, other people can see it but it takes time lol

For a child, you have to learn to deal with those lies, somehow. The way you do it is to fragment.

The way you heal is by people truly understanding what you went through, from the heart, not the intellect.

Alice Miller is the pioneer in this.

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posted October 25, 2014 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the upshot of the whole thing is intimacy. Can I show you who I am?

I am afraid now. I want to write things but I am afraid.

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posted October 25, 2014 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GeminiKarat     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my personal opinion you are an orenda person.

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posted October 25, 2014 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GeminiKarat:
In my personal opinion you are an orenda person.


Thank you, GeminiKarat!

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posted October 25, 2014 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Here is the thing with Mal Narcs. They are evil. The evil does not come from killing baby kittens or pulling the hair off puppies. It comes from the MASK.

They will try to destroy[b] anyone who tries to take off the mask. The mask is lies.

Read "People of the Lie" by Peck. It is a brilliant work on the Mal Narc.

If you have to be around a Mal Narc for any reason, the lies will start to surface. At that point, you are in danger because the Mal Narc will start to try to destroy you if you are any sort of threat to their mask.

They have a mask of perfection so people, so you will only see who they are when they attack you.

It will take other people, on the outside, a great deal of time to see the nature of them, too.

In time, other people can see it but it takes time lol

For a child, you have to learn to deal with those lies, somehow. The way you do it is to fragment.

The way you heal is by people truly understanding what you went through, from the heart, not the intellect.

Alice Miller is the pioneer in this.

http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/[/B]


UGH. Yeah, I've had to deal with mal narcs before. Especially this person I worked with at my old job. The second you threaten their power, the mask comes off and you are fair game. As long as you play into their little chess game and don't question them, you are considered good in the their eyes. But man, this person got so vindictive the minute you refused or deviated from their little chess game.

I tend to ignore these people as much as possible- they are looking for reaction and want you to bow down to their demands, rants, and absolute truths.

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