posted June 18, 2015 05:18 AM            

I've created this thread following to a post by Swanlake that was quite controversial. Since the post was off-topic, and I'm trying to avoid the previous thread being derailed, I thought it would be a good idea to create a new thread.

Swanlake expressed his/her views regarding sexuality in the modern world and what they see as a threat to the traditional family model.

I will post Swan's initial post here... and anyone who would like to disagree/agree, debate the matter, or just add their own two cents - is welcome to do so!

posted June 18, 2015 05:19 AM            

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Society is being deliberately PROGRAMMED (by the Elite) to accept
ANYTHING.

(motive : to destroy/ unravel Society)

SOON , in the FUTURE, what is today abhorrent
eg :

1)PEDIOPHILIA... will be accepted..and eventually become yet another "beautiful diverse" example of "sexuality".

(YES!- If you don't believe me, there are already certain "parties" even academics- who today are actively promoting it as simply a "lifestyle choice".)

This is how these things always start off

2)BESTIALITY...will ALSO be similarly accepted in the future.

MARK MY WORDS.

This is HOW EASILY People en mass can be trained.
(via gradual Social Programming..ie OUTSIDE info entering MINDS via deliberate DIVERSIONS/DISTRACTIONS Technology. (cell phones/Facebook/ computer Games & ALL THE REST OF IT!)

An AGENDA

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Never ever happened in past centuries before, this ability to MASS programme human minds collectively.
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Think of how "Popular Culture" ..eg watching"Kardashians" has taken over people's minds!

Likewise all the (what You think is real) FAKE news on TV/ PopMedia...
(-just "programming" of peoples minds to keep them distracted/unaware while THEY change your lives collectively behind the scenes)

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Society is DISINTEGRATING..to the extent where wanting to remain being heterosexual will be regarded a threat! (labelled "hate")

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..And WHAT OF NATURAL LAWS ?(LAWS of NATURE)
Heard of them?

ie Male+Female (YIN + YANG) = Offspring

Procreation of species..

REAL FAMILIES : MALE + FEMALE + their Offspring?

ALL BEING SUBVERTED , changed wrongly
by
FAKE imposed "Popular Culture"- destroying timeless values,
& thus Society..

Destroying the Natural Order..

- Transmitted to everybodys minds
via
Outside technological means (-ALL of them - YOU count the different ways).

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HOW MUCH has TV changed Society - for WORSE ??
Think of SEX & Violence
= MAIN THEMES (nearly all programming)
of
TODAY. (WHY????)

People mimic what they see...
and
YES. Society has definitely followed suite..destabilised & gone downhill these past decades. I've been around to witness it.
Since TV began.

SORRY TO SPOIL YOUR innocent/naive notions
of "all the beautiful/diverse..sexualities"

BUT

a much needed REALITY CHECK is needed here.

JUST THINK & CONSIDER:
Just because we are moving into the Future DOES NOT
automatically equate with things getting better!

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posted June 18, 2015 05:19 AM            

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Excuse me, but who the **** are you YOU to define what a "real family" is? Who made you the authority on what familial love and authenticity is? Newflash: a lot of your so-called "real families" do and have done a $hit job raising kids... and I have no doubt you would be one of them.

I can see that you are a psycho conspiracy theorist (I guess this site attracts a lot of these psycho types), but it is not and has never been the case that being inclusive or at minimal, not hateful, of one group of people is threatening or marginalizing to the majority. Get over yourself!

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posted June 18, 2015 05:20 AM            

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@ Aquacheeka - Don't get angry & defensive dear,
I have been affected by the outside programming by TV - even from the 70's. I can clearly see how it shaped/influenced my mind.
I can only observe it because I've seen 40 years of it, getting progressively worse towards more & more SEX & Violence.
Families as they were once intended to be, by Nature (BEFORE artificial outside mass programming via technology took place) consisted of Male + Female +(although not necessarily) Progeny.

I think if you reflect on this basic Principle of Nature, that it is echoed in the natural world also (animal kingdom).
Indeed it is a LAW OF NATURE.

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posted June 18, 2015 05:20 AM            

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I'm not going to debate with you on how objectively wrong your thinking is because I want to respect Belba's wishes as much as I do her diplomacy and restraint. Suffice to say, if you're so intent on "natural law" why not go beat someone to death or bang anything that moves caveman-style? Monogamy itself is not "natural." Methinks you're going senile, dear.

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posted June 18, 2015 05:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

I'm not going to debate with you on how objectively wrong your thinking is because I want to respect Belba's wishes as much as I do her diplomacy and restraint. Suffice to say, if you're so intent on "natural law" why not go beat someone to death or bang anything that moves caveman-style? Monogamy itself is not "natural." Methinks you're going senile, dear.

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You're right. Only old lame people focus on archaic things such as family and parenthood. If they do they're oppressing women and creating systems of patriarchy to thrive off of dominate men and enslaved women structure. Monogamy is a lie too. We should all procreate with as much people as possible and be polygamous because that's our natural way. Never mind the sexual diseases and the fact that women have a much higher chance of getting STDs like they weren't designed to have... NO! That is patriarchal thinking! We should also murder people who try to threaten us and try to steal women from our tribe and leave the weak out to die by themselves. Also, we should forget logic and our human sensibilities as a whole and reduce ourselves to our animal state. After all it's "natural".

Wow insulting someone's old age because they disagree with you. Typical liberal move who wants to whine and pout when they don't get their way.

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posted June 18, 2015 05:23 AM            

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Agreed.

Screw all these degenerate social justice warriors trying to tell me otherwise. With their sick and perverted ways, they will surely be normalized in a couple of years ( oops! already a few. time to move on to the next step! )

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posted June 18, 2015 09:12 AM            

Society is disintegrating? Is that why the violent crime rate has been on the decline for 40 years and the teen smoking rate is at record lows? I believe that this generation of men is the best we have ever seen.

Destigmatizing marginalized groups "destabilizes" society? So, fewer hate crimes due to greater acceptance is BAD for society?

posted June 18, 2015 10:36 AM            

Because modern society is heavily built upon sexual strictures. Exaggeratedly so, to the point where even modestly breastfeeding in public is controversial.

There is a push-back against ages of repression, and who knows where it will end, and what the future looks like?

Some people are terrified of change. I think it's pretty exciting. Just think, truth is on the loose!

Just keep your pets and children safe from the weirdos when the time comes.

Another thing is, perhaps society will learn that our sexual state of affairs is at least partly a reflection of modern diets and their degenerative effects on hormones.

Maybe society will learn that pesticides and denatured foods are causing the undeniable run-down of sexual strength and satisfaction, no matter where one turns, and finally reach an intellectual crisis point where they have to decide whether to try and rewind the clock and go back to nature on all levels or just die out from all the trappings of modern civilization.

posted June 18, 2015 10:54 AM            

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posted June 18, 2015 11:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I agree with Swan. All the people who jump on whatever is fed them by the news/culture, as we see on here over and over and over, like chirping lemmings are the REAL problem but, it is hopeless. These people will never see. They are arrogant on top of it

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You always struck me as homophobic.

posted June 18, 2015 11:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Faith:
You always struck me as homophobic.

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posted June 18, 2015 11:10 AM            

I tend to see impulses in a biochemical light, and an astrological light, even a spiritual light...more than within the context of "gender identity" as it's popularly conceived upon...which can make my thinking really impersonal and ~ I understand ~ offensive to those who don't see where I am coming from.

posted June 18, 2015 11:12 AM            

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Originally posted by Aquacheeka:

Among other things.

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posted June 18, 2015 11:38 AM            

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posted June 18, 2015 11:41 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Homophobic is the new buzz word for the dumbed down people.

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posted June 18, 2015 11:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Anyway, it is a spiritual blindness, not an intellectual one.

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Virtually everyone has both. You and I included.

posted June 18, 2015 12:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I went to a party on Sunday. I was talking to a guy who is an engineer and an MD. He is as dumbed down as anyone, so I knew it was hopeless, then, if I did not know before

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Let me try this all over again.

What you are usually alluding to is a conspiracy theory that says we, the sheeple, are in for a hostile takeover by certain elites.

What I never understand is, how the people who say such things tend to subscribe to the reigning neoconservative foreign policy of the US government, whose debts are monetized by the Federal Reserve, whose currency is backed by military coercion and war crimes (see, it's a circle.) This neoconservative system has superinflated the military-industrial complex, making it materially feasible for a prison planet to exist.

So my question is, whose side are you on? Do you really even know? You've never demonstrated any specific awareness of these covert power structures that you constantly allude to, or bothered explaining how supporting gay rights actually functions in one way or another, to either stave off or accelerate world dominion by the elites, whoever you think they are.

posted June 18, 2015 12:30 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
Let's take a look at countries where homosexuality or bisexuality is illegal and discuss how they are doing so much better than countries where it is legal.

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posted June 18, 2015 12:43 PM            

Are you all caught up in climate change, too, or can you see reality on that one

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