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Topic: Selling Body Parts
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 63634 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 21, 2015 11:39 AM
Planned Parenthood: We Don’t Sell Body Parts; We Donate Them and Accept Reimbursement in Exchange Read more at http://lastresistance.com/12768/planned-parenthood-we-dont-sell-body-parts-we-donate-them-and-accept-reimbursement-in-exchange/#5uBjU0m5zTJ83CJK.99
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Seimei Knowflake Posts: 694 From: n2thedust Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 27, 2015 02:55 PM
If it is true that the organization that makes the largest donation get the body parts they might be in trouble. nothing more to say on that. ------------------ -- IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 63634 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 27, 2015 03:36 PM
It is even worse than what I thought, in a way, although one could not say worse. The DOJ is going after the reporters who unveiled this. WAKE UP, Low Information Voter! ------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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Swanlake Knowflake Posts: 150 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted July 29, 2015 02:50 AM
It's even worse - Have you seen This >>> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=118920 about body parts...partial(live) birth abortions... where not to crush in order to preserve the desired body parts.. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6718 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 29, 2015 03:44 AM
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/ETA: for those not familiar with FactCheck.org, here's the wiki link on them (they're nonpartisan who go after anyone they feel is lying regardless of their politics): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck.org IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 63634 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 29, 2015 09:10 PM
Fmr Planned Parenthood Director: Organ ‘Harvesting’ Is ‘Big Business’ For Themhttp://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/07/22/fmr-planned-parenthood-director-organ-harvesting-is-big-business-for-them/
The lions death was terrible but what about babies
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Swanlake Knowflake Posts: 150 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted July 30, 2015 07:12 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: http://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/unspinning-the-planned-parenthood-video/ETA: for those not familiar with FactCheck.org, here's the wiki link on them (they're nonpartisan who go after anyone they feel is lying regardless of their politics): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FactCheck.org
L O L "Wiki" is FALSE facts + damage control. Wikipedia has NO credibility whatsoever. (except among the naive)
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 63634 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted July 30, 2015 05:09 PM
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Catalina Knowflake Posts: 3250 From: shamballa Registered: Aug 2013
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posted July 30, 2015 06:52 PM
Factcheck.org is not Wiki. Wiki is not without its faults but no one is referring to it except for a link to Factcheck. Often Wiki is very accurate where common knowledge is concerned..and usually has citations/sources/links to corroborate. Unlike opinion sources like breitbart etcIP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 31, 2015 01:37 AM
Lolz.."factcheck.org" My take on all of this is it is largely politically motivated..however..cold objective reality is, aborted children are being harvested for genetically useful materials. Full stop That is exactly what is being discussed on film. Abortions are traumatic experiences, and not exactly genteel subject matter, however to use simple feelings to ignore reality is not ignoring the truth, it is absconding from reality and no rational mind, or metaphysical mind, should behave as if "eyes wide shut" is ones best life in any meaningful sense of an examined life. IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6718 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 31, 2015 02:21 AM
What this thread is doing is promoting more of the lies of the Christian Right and ideological allies. Even if it's all true then it's merely a coincidence and simply more convenient to use the truth for a change.I do get tired of the gullibility, whether it's people conning people for money or manipulating them for ideological ends. I know the latter type of liars actually feel they're doing the right thing, that the ends justify the means, but it's dangerous (that includes people going off and becoming violent because they believe the lies or cherry picked truths that are perhaps even worse than straight up lies, and when social conditions are right can create a very dangerous mass hysteria) but extremely unethical, and I hate it when liars are rewarded for their actions with money, votes, and the like. It's also annoying when people of that faction promote posting the Ten Commandments as if we need them to know not to bear false witness when they won't hesitate to bear false witness themselves. And I'm not sure what to feel (everything from amused to annoyed) when those at LL who are the most prone to believe and spread that garbage get off calling others sheeple, idiots, and brainwashed when they're the most idiotic brainwashed sheeple around (hey, just using their own words for everyone else who isn't as gullible as themselves). Granted, it's a selective gullibility convenient to their politics, reports of an immanent totalitarian Christian state as bad as Iran would be dismissed by them, and rightly so, just as it's right to dismiss most of what they come up with and spread. As for FactCheck, I believe they were the group that exposed both sides of a sensitive issue, though in trying to look them up I wasn't able to find for certain they were. But overall I don't mean to promote FactCheck specifically as to stop swallowing the BS that's being spread lately without using any critical thought first and taking the time wonder if this time it's true or if it's, once again, half-truths and outright BS. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 31, 2015 02:39 AM
Yeah, facts are stubborn things pixie jane, perhaps it took the "christian right" to expose what was being discussed, with less passion then usually happens over which appetizers to order one adds.People love, truly love, pretty little lies, the delusionaly objective despise when their own pretty little lies perish. Human nature IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6718 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 31, 2015 02:42 AM
"Facts" edited as usual. If Ami and her sources had a better reputation (and didn't inspire some bad things) then I wouldn't be so fast to dismiss them. (ETA: more on that. Though unfortunately in the real world some people are going to believe the cry no matter what or how often it turns out to be wrong, even deceitful.)That is all. IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 31, 2015 02:46 AM
As for fact check.org (snickeR) quis custodiet, ipsos custodes?On a common sense pov, no investigation, no release of documents, no testimonial evidence given, pro or con..and of course "factcheck" says "it is thus" Pathetic really, if not for A) the condescending tone B) the enjoyable humor of blind belief (on your part one adds) that of course this could not possibly be happening Evidence..pfft..feelings..which makes it even more..l..o...l..z worthy Somewhere in Africa a lion died, a cop shot an unarmed man, a aborted child's remains were sold via wink and nod "donations" "I'll take gullible is not in the dictionary for 500 Alex" IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 31, 2015 02:48 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: "Facts" edited as usual. If Ami and her sources had a better reputation (and didn't inspire some bad things) then I wouldn't be so fast to dismiss them. (ETA: more on that. Though unfortunately in the real world some people are going to believe the cry no matter what or how often it turns out to be wrong, even deceitful.)That is all.
Attack the reporter, not the information, par for the course really If one is fine with such things, than be fine with them, this sort of cloak of "well I do care, but the person who told me I don't like, which makes it invalid" is comedy club logic
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PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6718 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 31, 2015 02:55 AM
I don't know the particulars, I just know the reputation of those passing it off. Because I know the reputations I'm not going to mess with it, at least not until someone more reputable comes along. When it's only the trash sites promoting it then that's an automatic red flag. What I am promoting is that people should actually question it first, be it this particular thread or the others like it rather than see some manipulative propaganda and get worked up over it "because I read it on the internet so it must be true." IP: Logged |
Padre35 Knowflake Posts: 3991 From: Asheville, NC, US Registered: Jul 2012
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posted July 31, 2015 03:06 AM
And that is the issue from my pov PJAmerica is a mix of constant dirty deals covered under an umbrella of faux honesty. When the pretty bandage is pulled off exposing the ugly reality, no one wants to hear it thus it does not penetrates the walls of ego and id I suspect this vista hits home with women who have had abortions and the thought of wink and nod over it all is simply, tbh, women do not want to think about at all b/c it is incredibly ugly Thus "they" win via silence Happens with soldiers, political contributions, lying public leaders etc IP: Logged |
Swanlake Knowflake Posts: 150 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted July 31, 2015 03:45 AM
quote: Originally posted by PixieJane: What this thread is doing is promoting more of the lies of the Christian Right and ideological allies. Even if it's all true then it's merely a coincidence and simply more convenient to use the truth for a change.I do get tired of the gullibility, whether it's people conning people for money or manipulating them for ideological ends. I know the latter type of liars actually feel they're doing the right thing, that the ends justify the means, but it's dangerous (that includes people going off and becoming violent because they believe the lies or cherry picked truths that are perhaps even worse than straight up lies, and when social conditions are right can create a very dangerous mass hysteria) but extremely unethical, and I hate it when liars are rewarded for their actions with money, votes, and the like. It's also annoying when people of that faction promote posting the Ten Commandments as if we need them to know not to bear false witness when they won't hesitate to bear false witness themselves. And I'm not sure what to feel (everything from amused to annoyed) when those at LL who are the most prone to believe and spread that garbage get off calling others sheeple, idiots, and brainwashed when they're the most idiotic brainwashed sheeple around (hey, just using their own words for everyone else who isn't as gullible as themselves). Granted, it's a selective gullibility convenient to their politics, reports of an immanent totalitarian Christian state as bad as Iran would be dismissed by them, and rightly so, just as it's right to dismiss most of what they come up with and spread. As for FactCheck, I believe they were the group that exposed both sides of a sensitive issue, though in trying to look them up I wasn't able to find for certain they were. But overall I don't mean to promote FactCheck specifically as to stop swallowing the BS that's being spread lately without using any critical thought first and taking the time wonder if this time it's true or if it's, once again, half-truths and outright BS.
WHAT is your obsession with "CHRISTIAN"???? (Right, or whatever?) Dear Pixie Ann (or whatever) I would like to ask you.... WHO founded ETHICS ??? !!!! In the first place? Was it not Christianity?? WHO? (which belief system) Gave Mankind a CONSCIENCE ....EVER????? IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6718 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 31, 2015 04:08 AM
Not obsessed with Christian, but rather the politicized Christian Right. Plenty of Christians (including some conservative and traditional ones) reject your sources as well, even equate them with Mammon and/or the Pharisees and other false prophets that Jesus warned against (some Christians even get offended if you associate their churches with the Christian Right). Just wanted to make that important distinction clear. And no, it wasn't Christians that "founded ethics" or "invented the conscience." But that's an entirely different topic. IP: Logged |
Swanlake Knowflake Posts: 150 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted July 31, 2015 04:18 AM
Just for the record, While I DO believe in Jesus the Christ, and His Principles /Guides to live Life by, I am not a church goer. Nor do I label myself a "Christian".* * * * Western Society WAS founded on Christ's principles. ETHICS. * * * * WHO /WHAT else taught Mankind collectively about ETHICS??? (And Your Answer is....?) IP: Logged |
PixieJane Moderator Posts: 6718 From: CA Registered: Oct 2010
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posted July 31, 2015 04:21 AM
^^Start a new thread if you want a serious discussion on ethics (origins, Christian influences for both good and ill, other sources, etc), and I'll get to it tomorrow (about to go to bed here). IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11908 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 31, 2015 09:24 AM
Funny, I hear the organs of children bombed in Pakistan by US drones are also being sold on the black market.Never saw a "Christian" protesting that..... It's too much, to ask for consistency. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 11908 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted July 31, 2015 09:33 AM
It doesn't bother me so much when a person is against abortion, I would have to talk to them and get the specifics of where they stand and why, but when it's part of a larger agenda, such as the Christian Right...that bothers me.The Christian Right feels that all laws and entitlements ought to reflect its own values, and can be merciless and heartless dealing with people outside its (relatively small) circle of compassion. Basically it strikes me as a collective ego trip, where the Christians and their favorites are the important ones, and everyone else (including the dehumanized Muslims...especially them) is fair game for attack. It's all ego-driven and not spiritual whatsoever. --- Oh and seeing as how Randall locked the other thread where I was making this point: how strange that Ami isn't even allowed to post in Divine Diversities or Global Unity because she presents her views in such a hostile way, yet she has an open platform HERE, a modship HERE, to say the exact same things. Tell me that makes sense. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 55444 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2015 09:50 AM
Let's be clear. It was Ami's views on Islam that caused me to ask her to not post in GU and DD. That's because NO religion should be singled out at LL. Yet, some of the same people who got in an uproar over Islam don't hesitate to attack Christianity. Hypocritical much? There should be a word for that: Christianphobic.IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 55444 From: Saturn next to Charmaine Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 31, 2015 10:02 AM
Try reading what Islam believes about homosexuality, since Christianity is criticized so harshly here while Islam is defended...ignoring the fact that in Islam not only is homosexuality a sin, but it is a crime. While gay rights have made huge strides in many nations, in Islamic countries, not only are gays ostracized, but they are even in fear of their lives. IP: Logged |