posted July 23, 2015 05:01 PM            

According to the DSM-5, pedophilia “refers to a sexual orientation or profession of sexual preference devoid of consummation, whereas pedophilic disorder is defined as a compulsion and is used in reference to individuals who act on their sexuality,”

Referenced from
Andrew Doan, MD, PhD

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posted July 23, 2015 06:01 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
Well, I mean... I agree that paedophilla is a sexual preference; as it describes a sexual desire directed towards children. However, I DO NOT think it is an acceptable sexual preference. Therefore, it shouldn't be classified as a sexual orientation. That suggests it's ok - it's not.

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posted July 23, 2015 06:51 PM            

Of course I tried to find this and, as usual, it was the usual BS sites that you like, which is why you didn't include a link to make it harder to challenge...because you know anyone rational isn't going to believe any link that says this.

Looking at the wiki on the DSM-V on wikipedia at least didn't show anything like that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSM-5

Since wikipedia isn't fully dependable (though a hell a lot more credible than your sites) I tried the link to see more about what it said on pedophilia disorder but I had to gain membership which I wasn't willing to do. It's not like I even consider that you're actually telling the truth for a change (even if you were it would simply be a coincidence).

Note: paraphilia is distinct from orientation.

posted July 23, 2015 07:07 PM            

Andrew Doan MD PhD

Head, Department of Mental Health, Addictions and Resilience Research at US Navy

Temecula, California
Medical Practice

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posted July 23, 2015 07:54 PM            

Not All Pedophiles Have Mental Disorder, American Psychiatric Association Says In New DSM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/01/dsm-pedophilia-mental-disorder-paraphilia_n_4184878.html

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posted July 23, 2015 08:31 PM            

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It's important to note that the actual diagnostic criteria for pedophilia have not changed since the last version of the DSM

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Blanchard questioned the need to label non-criminal behavior as mental illness:

"If you take [an] individual who has a very strong erotic attraction for children, but who has never acted on it, who never would act on it, who agrees that society's prohibition of adult child sexual interactions should be in place, do you want to say this individual has a mental disorder?"

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Nowhere is it stated that it's now a "sexual orientation" or that they think they should have "rights" to have sexual access to children (which I repeat would be irrelevant as long as children can't consent anyway), in fact it's quite the opposite, they have to agree that the prohibitions are good despite their innate desires rather than thinking that society is just being prudish.

posted July 24, 2015 01:03 PM            

When I complete forms, under (sexual) orientation (a person's sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted) I usually see the following options: bisexual, homosexual, heterosexual, prefer not to say. If paedophila cannot be included on this list, surely this preference cannot seriously be considered an orientation (in my opinion: a preference which has been normalised)?

However, I accept that paedophiles DO exist and they (active and inactive) should be given the necessary help to ensure that they are not a danger to young people.

In terms of the distinction between paedophiles who act on their preferences and those that do not, I would just use the words active and inactive; but maybe I'm too simple lol.

posted July 24, 2015 01:38 PM            

You think that would be obvious to these people. It is very sad

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posted July 24, 2015 01:58 PM            

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Originally posted by ikja:
I'm going to stop editing my response now 😂
I understand how you feel Ami, we feel the same way (but probably for two different reasons), however I get your unhappiness with the term in this context.

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posted July 24, 2015 05:06 PM            

'How does admitting that it exists imply acceptance of abusing a child?'

In my opinion, if you're calling it an orientation, then you're indirectly saying it's the same as homosexuality/heterosexuality and bisexuality. As generally speaking, THOSE preferences are recognised as sexual orientations at present (although I recognise that some people/nations do not agree), and therefore using the word 'orientation' to describe paedophilia suggests acceptance because the other preferences recognised as under that term are accepted/normal.

Again, I recognise sexual feelings towards children as a real preference, but not an orientation.

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posted July 24, 2015 07:04 PM            

I'd look into it more to be sure but this is Ami Anne and the sources she prefers (which are notorious liars with a reputation for twisting these stories around) so I won't bother. Had the Huffington Post said they were now calling it an orientation (as opposed to paraphilias and paraphilic disorders, both of which are distinct from orientation--something someone educated in psychology should realize) then I'd have believed it, but they (including the links I clicked) didn't say that despite Ami posting a link to it (as far as I can tell people uneducated about psychology have misunderstood a couple of statements within the article).

posted July 24, 2015 07:19 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
However, to be uneducated is a crime.

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posted July 24, 2015 07:39 PM            

This TREND is ON GOING.
It's going in ONE DIRECTION...and It is NOT STOPPING.
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Society can be likened to an organism in biology which, when the bounderies that hold it together dissolve/ break down.. can be said to be in a state of decay.

For a society to remain stable ie function in a healthy cohesive state, there have to be bounderies, otherwise that society breaks down.
(WHICH IS WHERE WE ARE NOW.)
The traditional Biological Family unit, which was once the cornerstone of society, is no more.
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RE Pedophilia, this is already becoming "normalised" as this trend continues.
"Normalised" means GRADUALLY being MADE to be regarded as not offensive.

NOTE also, how children in our society are being "sexualised" at earlier & earlier ages. This is also a very disturbing trend.

Ami has merely provided EVIDENCE of the EARLY signs of this.. (and I have seen similar elsewhere,)
It ALWAYS starts this way- slowly, over time. Eventually (mayby 10-20 yrs hence) the public will have been conditioned to accept it as "just another lifestyle choice" and by that time it will have been renamed eg "intergenerational sex"
and will no longer be an offence.
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If you can't see that Society today is seriously sick and unravelling, then it's only because you haven't lived long enough to have a reference point from which to perceive the wider perspective.

posted July 24, 2015 08:12 PM            

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Originally posted by DopGang:
^^^ I know society is effed up.
While I generally agree on that part, I think it's such an ENORMOUS hurdle for pedophiles that I think another civil war would break out before 99% of parents would get within a mile of it. Now or 50 years from now.
That I truly do believe.
Just because someone has classified it as something doesn't mean it is on its way to acceptance.

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It is the slippery slope, Dop. When abortion was first made legal, it was rare. Now, a kid can have an abortion sent by the high school, WITHOUT the parent being notified.
This is the same kind of slippery slope.

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posted July 24, 2015 11:02 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonWitch:
The reason teens can have abortions without their parent's consent is because there are teens that are raped by their fathers.

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