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Odette
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posted September 07, 2015 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What would you refer to as a good school?
Public or private? What would you consider to be typical school fees per annum (for a good school)? Would you take the area/location into consideration? Would you take the school's overall popularity into account? What about the standards of teaching and student-care? Are there any ranking systems used in your country/state that you would check out?

Do you believe you went to a good school, or a not-so-good school? What were the costs? Was it uni-sex or mixed?
What was your experience like at this school - in terms of the professionalism of the staff and teachers and the overall treatment of the students?

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posted September 07, 2015 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And... one more question - How do you feel about compulsory (gender-specific) uniforms in primary school and high school?
Australia still has this requirement ^ in a great majority of Public and Private schools.

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posted September 08, 2015 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Seimei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Odette:
And... one more question - How do you feel about compulsory (gender-specific) uniforms in primary school and high school?
Australia still has this requirement ^ in a great majority of Public and Private schools.

The best schools these day here in the U.S.A. are charter schools. Best because the
students eagerly want to go to school.
On the uniforms issue I vote yes. You know all the reasons.

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posted September 08, 2015 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's a topic I have extensive experience with

I went to school in Romania and then had some experience with European schools/universities myself and through friends and family.
It was difficult to live in Romania before 1989, but with this part I believe I've been privileged.
I went to two primary schools, both with high quality education (I will summarize what I believe this is). Both were central Bucharest schools with prestigious teachers (such as those writing the manuals) and considered the top. Actually, it was compulsory to go to a school in the same district of the town and those were in my area. But the first school was a protocol school, which meant we spent extensive hours at congresses and airports to wait and meet and wave and sing for Ceausescu. (it was compulsory) dressed in this:

a pure plastic uniform

and doing this

(obviously people were dragged there from their work or school; my own father, an engineer and manager at this job, had to put on a given red blouse on his clothes and be part of the red part of the flag in a huge crowd - made of other perfectly serious people - making up the colors of the flag and waiting for hours, usually at least half a day, for Ceausescu to come and wave for 5 minutes...I still have the blouse )

Back to the topic: so my parents moved me to a non-protocol school, also exceptional.
Then I went to one of the most prestigious high schools in Bucharest (historic background, very difficult to get into - difficult acceptance exams, the best teachers). Then I went to 2 crafts colleges (arts, both of 2 years) - only one private -(that was in parallel with me being at the university, I went to the university right after high school) 3 universities - first Philology, which I didn't finish because I changed my mind and passed the exams and succeeded to the other, sequentially, which I finished: University of Psychology in Bucharest and the National University of Arts in the same city. I have two university degrees, Psychology and Sculpture.
With the exception of one of the 2 year colleges, all my education has been free. I went to those school with very difficult exams and it was very hard to get into them. Just to give an example, there were 23 people for one place at Psychology, we had 3 admittance exams, 2 Psychology, Biology and Genetics, and you practically had to dream the manuals to get in there. They counted all phrases in the manual for those topics for the grade.

I know this isn't your exact question, but my view on education is that it has to be free, including University level, everywhere for everyone (of course, this doesn't exclude the existence of private schools). But the state's educational system should be strong and high quality. That the admittance should be based on exams and how good you are at those.

IMO, the value of education is in the teachers, first and foremost, their method/the quality of the material/manuals they use and the method of examining the students. I've had amazing teachers since primary school and I can give numerous examples on what I believe a good teacher and method is (but I already wrote too much now ) A short idea now: the focus on culture for primary levels (bringing knowledge of the world in its variety to children and young students, the variety of topics that makes one a "cultivated" individual); we also had numerous "exams" all the time, which are a way of teaching children how to learn and to evaluate their knowledge and solidifies them.

When it comes to school, nothing replaces a good teacher.

I'm not sure about the uniform, I need to think about it, it looks like a good thing.

In short, the value of an educational system in my view is in the teachers; and its availability to everyone. I would go where the teachers are


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posted September 08, 2015 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 08, 2015 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 08, 2015 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This may sound like a political view but it isn't. I remember I watched Fahrenheit 9/11 I think and noticed there how many young men and women enrolled in the army and went and died (for a bunch of people to get even richer) in order to have access to money for college. Not good, I was very upset. College education should be free, this is what it means to be part of the 21st century: free access to higher education.

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posted September 08, 2015 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Siemi is right about charter schools. You want the government out of EVERYTHING. You want people to have the power in choosing schools. That way, they will be excellent!

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posted September 08, 2015 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquaguy91     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Siemi is right about charter schools. You want the government out of EVERYTHING. You want people to have the power in choosing schools. That way, they will be excellent!


But not all people have the power to choose the school they want to go to. Some people are forced to go to low quality schools because they are the only schools in their area. I think the only way to have quality schools is to have schools funded by the federal government. In the U.S public schools are funded by the local government and if you live in a poor area you won't have the same opportunities as the kids that are lucky enough to live in affluent communities. Case and point.... The City Schools in my local community have installed turf fields and jumbotrons at all of the high school football stadiums and have tablets for every student. Meanwhile... The County schools are badly overcrowded and can't afford to build on to the existing schools or build new schools. They also have so many days a year where school buses can't even run because they can't afford the gas for the buses. Now, do we really want that much inequality in our education system?

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posted September 08, 2015 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeLoo2014     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
You want the government out of EVERYTHING.


I see no reason for the government to even exist in the "Aquarius age" unless they provide for universal free high quality:

health system

education (up to the high level)

(apart from private schools and hospitals, of course)

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posted September 08, 2015 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww, LeeLoo, that brings back memories! I only spent kindergarten during the Ceausescu regime, but I definitely know and remember what it was like for kids older than me.

As for schools in Romania.. I find it very saddening that the government doesn't invest as much in education as they used to. Still, I think education in Romania is one of the best considering the losses and corruption we confront around this subject. Romanians are highly appreciated abroad - doctors, architects, IT specialists, artists. How many Romanians work at Microsoft? A lot! lol This reminds me of a video that went viral in our country some time ago. It's in English, so everyone's welcomed to watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVTsqdhedM

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posted September 08, 2015 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Soltze     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Education is good in my country. Kids can apply for schools in the area of residence or give a justification like going to a school near the parents place of work.
It's a good way for poor kids to get the opportunity to go to the good schools in the capital.

All public schools are mixed gender. I was in a private one when I was really little and we had the uniform but not in the public ones.

The great majority of the teaching system is public. I went to public schools. Good ones. I had great teachers, others were acceptable and only one or two were like bad.

Some private schools are high in the ranking of quality but most aren't so good and just pass the rich kids for convenience.

I've been in several universities all public and they were truly excellent. The portuguese government hasn't been investing enough though. So many scientists move and win their prizes abroad. I'm sure it sounds familiar to some of you.

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posted September 17, 2015 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swanlake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will warn you that the "Education System"
today , is about indoctrinating Kids.

They have been gradually sneaking in MARXIST philosophies for a long time, and it's very subtle

IF you want to know what this means,
- they are teaching kids nowadays :

1) NOT to pay attention to their parents,and to question what parents say
(when it should be the Govt/State that they should be questioning.)
2) that Gender does not exist.
3) Introducing them to pornography, masturbation, & all sorts of deviancies (via "sex education")..
which is NO BUSINESS OF A SCHOOL TO EVEN TEACH

WHILST
Continuing to Neglect proper teaching of Literacy & Numeracy,..

Hence the drastically reduced standards overall.( easy to deny via Media Lies)

Their intention is to DUMB DOWN the population so as to create workers who are incapable of critical thinking..but who will make obedient slaves to the State.
* * * *
Oh but this is more than you asked to know..

OK - "private Schools = Better quality overall. Smaller class no's etc..

* * * * *
BUT really, Education has been infiltrated/contaminated over all.
This is now a World wide trend.

HOME SCHOOLING is the ONLY answer..But NOT unless you avoid their "programmes"


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posted September 17, 2015 06:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swanlake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seimei:
The best schools these day here in the U.S.A. are charter schools. Best because the
students eagerly want to go to school.
On the uniforms issue I vote yes. You know all the reasons.


WRONG & STUPID.

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posted September 17, 2015 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swanlake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Siemi is right about charter schools. You want the government out of EVERYTHING. You want people to have the power in choosing schools. That way, they will be excellent!


IGNORANT & WRONG!!! Charter Schools is a pretence of that. In actual fact it's another step towards Marxism.
Look up "Common Core" new curriculum..= Communism!!!

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posted September 17, 2015 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Swanlake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Internationally, USA is renowned for its DUMBING DOWN of schooling.
USA is known for DUMBED DOWN population..
(ignorant about EVERYTHING outside of USA)

Probably because USA is also the HOME of Hollywood & TV: trash/movies/ "INFO-TAINMENT News" Fake REALITY FAKE everything etc..



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