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LMB
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posted December 21, 2002 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
I'm crying but I want to scream. My father has had one heart attack and now three cases of Angina. HE just called me and told me that he was in the hospital for three days. Now he's home and okay. But understand, he's been smoking this whole time. At my grandfather's funeral this summer (he died of severe lung problems and emphysema) my father squeezed my hand and told me he'd never smoke again.

I know it's hard to quit smoking but he says he's going to quit every time after something like this happens but he never does.

But today he said he really is going to quit.

How do I believe him?

Why has he chosen this karma for himself?

Please, I know it's up to him, but if anyone can send healing energies to him, I would love that.

Thank you.

LMB

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theFajita
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posted December 21, 2002 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
Much healing love and energies to your father! I am so sorry you are going thru this I can hear your frustration! love d

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LMB
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posted December 21, 2002 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks. I appreciate it. I don't know what to do. Well, I know there's nothing I can do except love him and support him. I just wish he knew... or that he understood...more the spiritual things. Like how he shouldn't do that to his body temple. And about death. That we never really die. That got me thinking today. I consider myself to believe that we don't die, that we are immortal. That our spirits never die. But when I was faced with the fact taht my father might die, suddenly i felt very scared and angry and sad. as if i thought he might really be gone. and then i realized that i was thinking in the way that nearly all people think. that death is some kind of punishment. and it's not. oh i don't know. i just don't want him to die. he's my father. i'm just starting to have a relationship with him now. i don't want him to die. please...

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juniperb
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posted December 21, 2002 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
My heart goes out to you LMB. I lost my mom to lung cancer a year ago my B`day. I send love & white lite to you and your dad.
I smoked for 30 years and went to a hypnotherapist Nov. 18th & have been smoke free since. It is a wounderful way around the cold turkey struggles we smokers weaken to. I highly recommend it & perhaps your dad would be interested as it it the best way w/less withdrawl symmptoms.
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LMB
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posted December 22, 2002 01:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
juniperb,
thanks for the suggestion. and for the healing energies.i can feel them.

right back atcha.

Love
LMB

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Jaqueline
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posted December 22, 2002 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jaqueline     Edit/Delete Message
I am praying for your father and for you... please be fine, he needs your support.

We are really immortal, our body leaves one day, but our spirit lives forever, never forget that...

A big hug so that you feel better !

Love
Jakie

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stella polaris
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posted December 23, 2002 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Dear LMB, I understand how you feel. My dad was very ill a few weeks ago and it really scared me to think of life without him. His illness was also smoke-related, but incredibly enough, he has managed to stop smoking after 40 years. He just threw away his cigarettes after the doctor told him either you cut the smoke or we have to cut your legs...He put his cigarette money aside and bought himself a new CD every second day. That's how I quit smoking five years ago, too. Another friend used acupuncture, she said it became dead easy to stop - and she had also smoked for more 40 years. She is 64 years old now, and her main motivation was that she realized if she didn't stopped, her remaining years would be crap. If you only could manage to make your dad realize that...But as a former smoker I know that if you're not motivated, nothing can make you stop... I hope your dad will WANT to stop.

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posted December 25, 2002 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercury     Edit/Delete Message
For some reason people think if you suddenly stop smoking your chances for life dramatically improve. Kind of bogus. Years of smoking are going to do in your father whether he stops or not. He is as good as dead. Your negative fear-based reaction to his impending death is understandable but negative. Face your negativity, confront it and dispel it. Love and forgive this man with all your heart, realizing that death is an illusion. Fear will kill you in time too, if you let it. Fear kills all, annihilates all. You know what also kills? Smoking out your lungs your whole life. When people smoke and do these wrong intentional things, they are asking to die. When they finally die, they are getting what they want. Keeping your father alive using technology and all that is trying to force him to stay alive for your own selfish needs. Not exactly loving. Let him die. Let everyone who wants to die die.

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Bernadette1216
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posted December 28, 2002 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bernadette1216     Edit/Delete Message
Mercury, how disappointed I am in your response to poor LMB. I must say that I am sensing some strong unsettling vibrations from you. And I hope that you are ok. Your responses, although apparently honest in your own thought process were less than sensitive and it's very obvious that a serious issue is going on in your life...I hope that you find the light you need to overcome whatever is bothering you so. For as you have warned myself and LMB, negative things will destroy a person. Your advice includes yourself you know.

Peace to you

and to you LMB...and your father.

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LMB
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posted December 29, 2002 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
Bernadette, thank you for your peaceful wishes. My dad is doing better. Still smoking but only three in one week. He's going to a support group *I hope* and is trying very hard.

I appreciate your care.

be well yours-elf,

LMB

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juniperb
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posted December 29, 2002 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
LMB, that is great news & kudos to your dad!!!
Lite & love to you both.

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 02, 2003 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange Blossom     Edit/Delete Message
Dear LMB, I am sorry to hear of your pain. One of my very best friends is in a similar situation to you. Her mother is very ill, and only last week was taken into hospital because she was coughing up blood (she smokes heavily everyday & has done so for over 30years). When she came out of hospital my friend tried to refuse to get her Mum cigarrettes. Her Mum always finds a way to get them, becuase her addiction is so strong. Now my friend is very upset because her Mum is so ill (she has to have dialysis 4 times per day as her kidneys failed about 15 years ago)- my friend is frightened that her Mum may become so upset & distressed by stopping smoking, that it might harm her, & sadly, she may not have long left to live...
It's good to hear that your Dad has cut down so much. I send you and your Dad & my friend & her Mum lots & lots of love, light, and hope that healing takes place. Please remember LMB to take care of yourself too xx
Lots & lots of love to you, Orange Blossom xx

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LMB
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posted January 04, 2003 11:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
PLEASE SAY A PRAYER. I JUST FOUND OUT MY DAD HAD A HEART ATTACK LAST NIGHT. I'M IN SHOCKAND SO SCARED.

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theFajita
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posted January 04, 2003 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
Oh no! I hope he is in no pain.

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juniperb
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posted January 04, 2003 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message

White lite to you and Dad.

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 04, 2003 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange Blossom     Edit/Delete Message
Dearest LMB,
I am so sorry to hear this awful news. I send you & your father all my love, prayers, & thoughts. I hope with all my heart that your father makes a fast recovery,
Lots of love, Orange Blosson xxxx

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LMB
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posted January 04, 2003 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
thanks, you guys. it means a lot to come here and read such supportive posts. he's going to be in the hospital until monday probably. he didn't want me to go down to Chicago to visit him so i'm going to try to go to work tomorrow even though right now i'm at work and i'm finding it hard to function. i feel so in a daze. it was a mild heart attack but this is the second heart attack in four years and he's had angina i don't know how many times. when will be the last time? that's what i'm scared of. i know being scared only fuels things but....

LMB

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theFajita
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posted January 04, 2003 09:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita     Edit/Delete Message
You are just feeling a natural emotion and we understand. I know it is tough for you and to have someone die is just so permenent at least for this lifetime. Please keep us posted

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Randall
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posted January 05, 2003 02:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 05, 2003 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange Blossom     Edit/Delete Message
LMB,
My thoughts, prayers & very best wishes are with you & your father. This must be such a terrible & worrying time for you both. I hope you find a way to take care of yourself & be strong for your father.

Lots of Love, Light & Blessings to you both, Orangeblossom xxx

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LMB
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posted January 06, 2003 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LMB     Edit/Delete Message
THank you everybody. Today is the day he has an angioplasty (sp?) so if you could send him some healing energies that'd be good.

I feel so lucky to be a part of this forum. Thank you. His name is Michael by the way.

LMB

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Orange Blossom
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posted January 06, 2003 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange Blossom     Edit/Delete Message
I am sending your father, Michael, Love, Light & all my good energy, prayers & wishes, and to you LMB, I hope you find the energy to be strong. This must be so hard for you, too.

Lots of Love & Hugs to you both,
Orange Blossom xxx

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posted January 07, 2003 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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juniperb
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posted January 07, 2003 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
His name goes under my purple plate today LMB.

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