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Topic: MY STUBBORN SICK FATHER
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LMB Moderator Posts: 653 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted December 21, 2002 12:33 PM
I'm crying but I want to scream. My father has had one heart attack and now three cases of Angina. HE just called me and told me that he was in the hospital for three days. Now he's home and okay. But understand, he's been smoking this whole time. At my grandfather's funeral this summer (he died of severe lung problems and emphysema) my father squeezed my hand and told me he'd never smoke again. I know it's hard to quit smoking but he says he's going to quit every time after something like this happens but he never does. But today he said he really is going to quit. How do I believe him? Why has he chosen this karma for himself? Please, I know it's up to him, but if anyone can send healing energies to him, I would love that. Thank you. LMB IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted December 21, 2002 01:27 PM
Much healing love and energies to your father! I am so sorry you are going thru this I can hear your frustration! love d------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
LMB Moderator Posts: 653 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted December 21, 2002 06:45 PM
Thanks. I appreciate it. I don't know what to do. Well, I know there's nothing I can do except love him and support him. I just wish he knew... or that he understood...more the spiritual things. Like how he shouldn't do that to his body temple. And about death. That we never really die. That got me thinking today. I consider myself to believe that we don't die, that we are immortal. That our spirits never die. But when I was faced with the fact taht my father might die, suddenly i felt very scared and angry and sad. as if i thought he might really be gone. and then i realized that i was thinking in the way that nearly all people think. that death is some kind of punishment. and it's not. oh i don't know. i just don't want him to die. he's my father. i'm just starting to have a relationship with him now. i don't want him to die. please...IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 3936 From: www.Heaven.Home Registered: Mar 2002
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posted December 21, 2002 08:56 PM
My heart goes out to you LMB. I lost my mom to lung cancer a year ago my B`day. I send love & white lite to you and your dad. I smoked for 30 years and went to a hypnotherapist Nov. 18th & have been smoke free since. It is a wounderful way around the cold turkey struggles we smokers weaken to. I highly recommend it & perhaps your dad would be interested as it it the best way w/less withdrawl symmptoms. juniperb IP: Logged |
LMB Moderator Posts: 653 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted December 22, 2002 01:13 AM
juniperb, thanks for the suggestion. and for the healing energies.i can feel them. right back atcha. Love LMB IP: Logged |
Jaqueline Knowflake Posts: 1088 From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil Registered: Oct 2002
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posted December 22, 2002 08:27 PM
I am praying for your father and for you... please be fine, he needs your support. We are really immortal, our body leaves one day, but our spirit lives forever, never forget that... A big hug so that you feel better ! Love Jakie IP: Logged |
stella polaris Knowflake Posts: 690 From: greece Registered: Aug 2002
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posted December 23, 2002 12:34 PM
Dear LMB, I understand how you feel. My dad was very ill a few weeks ago and it really scared me to think of life without him. His illness was also smoke-related, but incredibly enough, he has managed to stop smoking after 40 years. He just threw away his cigarettes after the doctor told him either you cut the smoke or we have to cut your legs...He put his cigarette money aside and bought himself a new CD every second day. That's how I quit smoking five years ago, too. Another friend used acupuncture, she said it became dead easy to stop - and she had also smoked for more 40 years. She is 64 years old now, and her main motivation was that she realized if she didn't stopped, her remaining years would be crap. If you only could manage to make your dad realize that...But as a former smoker I know that if you're not motivated, nothing can make you stop... I hope your dad will WANT to stop.IP: Logged |
Mercury Knowflake Posts: 88 From: Registered: Dec 2002
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posted December 25, 2002 02:18 AM
For some reason people think if you suddenly stop smoking your chances for life dramatically improve. Kind of bogus. Years of smoking are going to do in your father whether he stops or not. He is as good as dead. Your negative fear-based reaction to his impending death is understandable but negative. Face your negativity, confront it and dispel it. Love and forgive this man with all your heart, realizing that death is an illusion. Fear will kill you in time too, if you let it. Fear kills all, annihilates all. You know what also kills? Smoking out your lungs your whole life. When people smoke and do these wrong intentional things, they are asking to die. When they finally die, they are getting what they want. Keeping your father alive using technology and all that is trying to force him to stay alive for your own selfish needs. Not exactly loving. Let him die. Let everyone who wants to die die.IP: Logged |
Bernadette1216 Knowflake Posts: 504 From: Registered: Aug 2002
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posted December 28, 2002 11:07 PM
Mercury, how disappointed I am in your response to poor LMB. I must say that I am sensing some strong unsettling vibrations from you. And I hope that you are ok. Your responses, although apparently honest in your own thought process were less than sensitive and it's very obvious that a serious issue is going on in your life...I hope that you find the light you need to overcome whatever is bothering you so. For as you have warned myself and LMB, negative things will destroy a person. Your advice includes yourself you know.Peace to you and to you LMB...and your father. ------------------
We are each of us angels with one wing and we can only fly by embracing each other-unknown
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LMB Moderator Posts: 653 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted December 29, 2002 11:50 AM
Bernadette, thank you for your peaceful wishes. My dad is doing better. Still smoking but only three in one week. He's going to a support group *I hope* and is trying very hard. I appreciate your care. be well yours-elf, LMB IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 3936 From: www.Heaven.Home Registered: Mar 2002
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posted December 29, 2002 03:50 PM
LMB, that is great news & kudos to your dad!!! Lite & love to you both.IP: Logged |
Orange Blossom Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Registered: Jan 2003
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posted January 02, 2003 01:43 PM
Dear LMB, I am sorry to hear of your pain. One of my very best friends is in a similar situation to you. Her mother is very ill, and only last week was taken into hospital because she was coughing up blood (she smokes heavily everyday & has done so for over 30years). When she came out of hospital my friend tried to refuse to get her Mum cigarrettes. Her Mum always finds a way to get them, becuase her addiction is so strong. Now my friend is very upset because her Mum is so ill (she has to have dialysis 4 times per day as her kidneys failed about 15 years ago)- my friend is frightened that her Mum may become so upset & distressed by stopping smoking, that it might harm her, & sadly, she may not have long left to live... It's good to hear that your Dad has cut down so much. I send you and your Dad & my friend & her Mum lots & lots of love, light, and hope that healing takes place. Please remember LMB to take care of yourself too xx Lots & lots of love to you, Orange Blossom xxIP: Logged |
LMB Moderator Posts: 653 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted January 04, 2003 11:53 AM
PLEASE SAY A PRAYER. I JUST FOUND OUT MY DAD HAD A HEART ATTACK LAST NIGHT. I'M IN SHOCKAND SO SCARED. IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted January 04, 2003 01:44 PM
Oh no! I hope he is in no pain.------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 3936 From: www.Heaven.Home Registered: Mar 2002
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posted January 04, 2003 03:41 PM
White lite to you and Dad. juniperb IP: Logged |
Orange Blossom Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Registered: Jan 2003
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posted January 04, 2003 05:42 PM
Dearest LMB, I am so sorry to hear this awful news. I send you & your father all my love, prayers, & thoughts. I hope with all my heart that your father makes a fast recovery, Lots of love, Orange Blosson xxxxIP: Logged |
LMB Moderator Posts: 653 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted January 04, 2003 06:09 PM
thanks, you guys. it means a lot to come here and read such supportive posts. he's going to be in the hospital until monday probably. he didn't want me to go down to Chicago to visit him so i'm going to try to go to work tomorrow even though right now i'm at work and i'm finding it hard to function. i feel so in a daze. it was a mild heart attack but this is the second heart attack in four years and he's had angina i don't know how many times. when will be the last time? that's what i'm scared of. i know being scared only fuels things but....LMB IP: Logged |
theFajita Knowflake Posts: 2007 From: Boca Raton, FL USA Registered: Sep 2002
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posted January 04, 2003 09:58 PM
You are just feeling a natural emotion and we understand. I know it is tough for you and to have someone die is just so permenent at least for this lifetime. Please keep us posted ------------------ Food is the only art that nourishes! IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 05, 2003 02:00 AM
------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Orange Blossom Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Registered: Jan 2003
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posted January 05, 2003 09:05 AM
LMB, My thoughts, prayers & very best wishes are with you & your father. This must be such a terrible & worrying time for you both. I hope you find a way to take care of yourself & be strong for your father.Lots of Love, Light & Blessings to you both, Orangeblossom xxx IP: Logged |
aquamoon Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Apr 2002
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posted January 06, 2003 03:48 AM
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LMB Moderator Posts: 653 From: Cooltown, USA Registered: Dec 2000
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posted January 06, 2003 12:43 PM
THank you everybody. Today is the day he has an angioplasty (sp?) so if you could send him some healing energies that'd be good.I feel so lucky to be a part of this forum. Thank you. His name is Michael by the way. LMB IP: Logged |
Orange Blossom Knowflake Posts: 64 From: Leeds, Yorkshire, England Registered: Jan 2003
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posted January 06, 2003 08:01 PM
I am sending your father, Michael, Love, Light & all my good energy, prayers & wishes, and to you LMB, I hope you find the energy to be strong. This must be so hard for you, too.Lots of Love & Hugs to you both, Orange Blossom xxx IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 16464 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted January 07, 2003 01:39 AM
------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 3936 From: www.Heaven.Home Registered: Mar 2002
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posted January 07, 2003 08:45 AM
His name goes under my purple plate today LMB. IP: Logged |