posted February 08, 2004 12:24 PM         

You should also read by John Robbins;

Diet for a New America

posted February 08, 2004 08:14 PM         

As for my reasons, well...they are legion. I find that the ones who quit for a variety of reasons stay off the meat longer and more consistently. I do it for my heath - spiritual, emotional, mental, and physical. I do for the sake of the environment. I do it for the sake of the animals, whose lives I do not feel I have the right to take. I do it for the hope of a better society.

"It is my view that the vegetarian manner of living, by its purely physical effect on the human temperament, would most beneficially influence the lot of mankind."
Albert Einstein
Good enough for me!

posted February 11, 2004 09:33 PM         

Regarding not giving up all meat all at once, I have stopped red meat all together and poultry. I thought I'll eat fish for a few years so I can get used to it as recommended. Oh but I tried so hard to put fish in my mouth TINK and I spat, I felt sick, couldnt do it. I cant. I have a few friends that went cold turkey vegetarian and they have been so for years, and never looked frail or sick, I dont know how or why, but they told me that they had wheat grass shots everyday, took loads of different herb rememdies for vegans ect, and they came through well. So I'll try it out for myself as well. I dont want to have to force chicken or fish down my throat.

It was spiritual, emotional, and physical reasons to why I chose. Considering our physiology against meat eaters are completely different but are identicle to plant eaters. Got me thinking. How could anyone say its not true.

Any way, I am so happy to eat veggies, and I have never been a junk food eater, so that wont be a problem, Im so happy to have twice as much salad, potatos, or grilled veggies. And the recipes are amazing. Especially tofu, didnt realise it can taste so good, and I also found that is has 3 times as much more absorbable protien than a peice of fish/meat or chicken. Facinating!

I love beans and all kinds of legumes, so I wont have any health problems, theres probably not one veggie i dont eat.

I love being a veggiehead,

posted February 11, 2004 10:41 PM         

As wise as I believe Linda's suggestion was, you are right, at the end of the day you must listen to the wisdom of your own body. I wonder if age has anything to do with it? Maybe it's easier for the body of a teenager to go cold turkey than the tired old body of a 30 year old? After all, it's a brave new world out there and the younger Aquarian Age generations are unlike any that have come before, aren't they? Who knows what they are capable of or what is expected of them. Just listen to your body and do what it tells you to do, ok? Even if that means eating a little fish now and again. Maybe shellfish would be easier to consume if it came to that. Then again maybe you have been a veggie in another life and you are just continuing on the high road, right where you belong. Either way, you sound like the perfect "veggiehead".

thanks for the inspiration.

posted February 12, 2004 02:07 PM         

this has been on my brain alot lately, as i used to be a strict vegetarian for close to four years....absolutely no meat, not even fish. i ate too much cheese and bread though for awhile and of course felt sick. now that i am more informed about soy, tofu, tempeh and such, i feel more confident going back.

see, originally i became a vegetarian due to my first love being a hare krsna that educated me on such matters. so, after we broke up i rebelled and went down many a dark path trying to figure **** out. and trying to make sure i was making the choice for myself and not him. i have gone back and forth with the veggie thing, but in my heart and soul i know it's what i believe in and makes me happy.

there are alot of mental and emotional obstacles i am working through to become a vegetarian again. but i am already doing better, much better.

hey, and the fish thing always gets me. i mean, some people will say, yeah i am a vegetarian and still eat fish. i can't help but get offended by that, as a but i do understand it is the healthiest meat choice out there....

posted February 22, 2004 05:01 AM         

As I've pointed out in my message 'Now or too late- the myth of fish' (and I know you've read it) , the fish we consume now contain high amounts of mercury and other health-endangering chemicals, so fish definitely should be eliminated immediately. YOU DON'T NEED TO follow Linda's method. Your system will not be shocked and respond in a negative way as long as you gather sufficiant and accurate information first. Track down your local vegetarian groups for further advice and they will provide you vital info on nutrition, how to make your body adjust to a veggie diet and also they will strengthen your motive. Check out these websites:
www.viva.org.uk www.vegansociety.com

You really need to consider why you ought to quit flesh at once. Think about Bird Flu, mercury and POPs (see the message 'Now or too late- the myth of fish). You can't continue LITERALLY poisoning your body for another five years. Those darn things are now INEDIBLE. I must say Linda was human after all, she simply did not realise that you could safely go veggie instantly without 'suddenly' shocking your body system. You simply need to know more about the stuff. Get the info now and then go for it. You'll see it is NOT DANGEROUS to become a vegetarian at once. In fact, it will be the sanest choice you'll ever make in your entire life.

Those people who went veggie and fell ill just didn't do it the right way. I've been off all types of flesh for eight months and I'm still chubby and pinky. No kidding. You just need the right INFORMATION. Better memorise this word.

The reason why I became a vegan is simple- killing is wrong. And I don't want to be involved in any animal exploitation. You shall see when my future messages get online. It's for my conscience, that's all.

Every now and then you may sense the smell of flesh and you find it desirable. It won't be long before you stop finding it so. Because you are now enlightened and you realise what you has smelt is nothing but burning dead corpses.

GET THE RIGHT INFORMATION.

posted February 22, 2004 07:40 PM         

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To keep producing high yields of milk, dairy cows have to give birth every year. The male calves are often slaughtered almost immediately or kept alive for a few months in barbaric conditions to produce veal. The mother cow is one of the most overworked and exploited animals in modern farming. Her calf is torn away from her after just a few days and she is stimulated by unnatural feeding and breeding to produce far more milk than she naturally would. After a few years she is too worn out to keep up peak milk production and is slaughtered to maximise profit.

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posted February 22, 2004 10:59 PM         

I am going to post a message about the dairy myth, and I will further explain what's behind the mask. Once again I highly recommend the website:
www.vegansociety.com

where you can get important info.

It's actually very simple. Many people don't know that the yoghurt they consume nowadays contains gelatine (boiled animal bones or skin tissue, in order to thicken the texture) and the cheese they eat contains rennet (an extract from calf's stomach, for traditional cheese making). Don't worry, you can find DELICIOUS vegan yoghurt and vegan cheese at your local health food shops...at least that's the case in England.

Replace milk with calcium-enriched soya milk or calcium-enriched rice milk. They are yummy. Get lots of sunlight in order to get vitamin D and that helps your body to absorb calcium.

posted February 26, 2004 09:46 AM         

Congratulations on your decision to be a vegetarian! For Lent, I decided to give up all meat. I plan to carry it over after Lent as well. Originally, I had thought about starting the Atkins Diet for Lent (I am substantially overweight), but the idea of eating all of that meat made me sick. Thanks to the wonderful people on this website, I decided to cut out meat instead, for my health and for the health of the animals. Lately whenever I had eaten meat I was reminded of the scene in "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" where Johnny Depp and Benicio Del Toro drink the adrenalchrome of a sacrificed victim of Satanism. That really gave me the willies. {{{{cold shivers}}}}

I am still eating Dairy until I am brave enough to wean myself off of it. I think I will check out the vegan cheese that has been recommended, though. Best of luck to you, SunChild!

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Sincerely,
divinia

posted February 26, 2004 05:54 PM         

Goodluck to you also.