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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 27, 2004 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

I need help with my diet. I've wanted to be a vegetarian but due to my body type I can't seem to live that way. My iron level is low and I faint every time I go longer than a week without meat. However I only eat white meat (fish, chicken turkey)
I was wondering what you guys consider the best every day diet to be on. I'm not trying to lose weight, I just need to stop eating junk.

I'm allergic to wheat and all things containing gluten so I can't eat bread.
Any tips?

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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 27, 2004 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

I forgot to ask; I love cheese, is it really that bad for you?

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silverbells
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posted February 27, 2004 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know about diet so I couldn't say anything about that but I would say that cheese is not bad for you unless one was allergic to it. I don't think that any material in it's pure form is bad for anyone, it is in the increments that we ingest it.
Could you not balance what you eat now with more healthy things every other day? And, THIS IS IMPORTANT: are you someone who takes great pleasure in food? That question could help someone who knows pick something that would make you happy and not "cheat" on your prospective diet.

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eightdegrees
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posted February 28, 2004 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eightdegrees     Edit/Delete Message
Aires- the fact that you can't digest wheat is probably a good thing for your overall diet. Wheat is pretty much an empty carbohydrate. I don't eat it by choice. If you think meat works best for your body, then by all means eat it, but I wouldn't base every meal on it.

It's hard to give generalized diet advice, since it's such a personal thing. But I'd say increase the amount of whole grains you eat- brown rice, oats, millet, quinoa, amaranth.

LOTS OF VEGGIES are a key to a good diet. If you need iron try kale and spinach. My favorites are red cabbage, carrots, onions, eggplant, broccoli...

Oh the cheese- whether it's bad for YOU is debatable- what silver said is especially important with cheese, I wouldn't eat it every day. I find it clogs my system and makes me feel really "heavy." Maybe you could try cutting out dairy products (gasp!) for just a week and see how you feel. Definitely buy organic cheese. I've read some scary things on what cheese actually contains. If you read it you might not want to eat cheese anymore.

What else what else... do you drink coffee or a lot of caffeine? That contributes to overall health. Also, what time of day do you eat the most? It's best to eat your biggest meal midday, between 10-2, that's when your digestion is at it's peak.

If you give more info on your diet, I'll be glad to give more suggestions! Good luck.

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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 28, 2004 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

Hi and thanks! I eat mostly during the afternoons, I love yoghurt and I eat a lot of fruit. Kiwi, mangos, pineapple and I like to drink cranberry juice. As far as my other intakes go I eat a lot of spinach, tomatoes, turkey, corn, peppers and of course cheese! I wouldn't mind if you told me what cheese contains, I would like to get rid of my cheese obsession

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pixelpixie
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posted February 28, 2004 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Ariesrocks~ I was remembering something a pharmacist told me about something that made sense to him~ Eating by blood type...
He said O+ blood needs meat to survive healthily.. it is adapted and evolutionary.. I don't know all the facts, but you should read about it.. there are things about it on the web, no doubt... It's just what you said about your iron, and fainting etc... just popped into my misinformed brain that gets half of a lot of things but not everything about all things.... hee hee

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Harpyr
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posted February 28, 2004 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
Ariesrocks,
Do you take iron suppliments? I'm slightly anemic too and only eat meat (usually buffalo) once or at most twice a month. I eat tuna and salmon and occasionally clams though. I definetly don't eat enough greens to get all the iron I need so I take suppliments. You can get organic suppliments that don't have all the weird binders and stuff.

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Motherkonfessor
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posted February 29, 2004 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Motherkonfessor     Edit/Delete Message
Thats the second post I have read today about that "Eat Right for Your Type" info, based on blood types.

It would be interesting if Ariesrocks is an O type, and does need meat. I read the book on blood types, but wasn't sure if I would work. The science SEEMS sound, but I have never met anyone who followed it, and I am always eager to hear personal experiences with it......

Some say cheese is bad, some say cheese is good. I LOVE cheese, but choose to limit my intake, and there is still the moral dilemma of rennet....

Ariesrocks, your diet doesn't sound that bad, to be honest. Unless these awesome foods you are listing are mixed in with piles of junk food.
Whats in cheese, you ask? Its animal based fats (clogs arteries) and rennet is technically the inner lining of a milk fed only calf, which causes the reaction that makes milk turn into cheese.

Keep us informed, Ariesrocks, or better yet go to a holistic nutritionist or Natropath.
I am curious to hear what you do...

MK

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gloomy sag
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posted February 29, 2004 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gloomy sag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, Ariesrocks, just wanted to give my 2 cents. If you're so much into cheese, try to eat more feta cheese. It doesn't harm your system that much, it makes you feel full quicker than other kinds, and it doesn't "clog" your body.
If you don't like the smell of it soak it in water with a little salt in it for a couple of days - it removes the unpleasant smell.
As for the yoghurt - please remember that the sweetened kinds are "enriched" with starch, sugar, and artificial flavours.
(right now I could kill for some bulgarian plain yoghurt!!!)
It is important that you distribute your food intake over the day. Some people recommend 5 times a day - three main courses and 2 snacks.
Good luck to you and all of us that are trying to eat healthier
P.S. Since I've come to the US - less than 2 years I gained 30 pounds, eating all fat free starches. I use to eat a lot of fat before and I was fine. (Think that I am type 0 too)

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eightdegrees
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posted February 29, 2004 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for eightdegrees     Edit/Delete Message
Aires- I've read that cheese can contain blood, pus, and other body elements/fluids. Not to mention the growth hormones used on the cows AND toxic energy.

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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 29, 2004 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

thanks for that! I will cut down on cheese.
Apart from nuts and meat, are there any real good sources of protein? one of the biggest reasons I eat cheese and meat a lot is becouse of the protein it contains..

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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 29, 2004 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

I forgot to add; I'm allergic to eggs and soy too, just so you know. And yes I do take iron supplements.

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Harpyr
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posted February 29, 2004 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
Beans, Beans! The wonderful fruit!
The more you eat, the more you.....
consume protein.


Table 2: Protein Content of Selected Vegan Foods

FOOD AMOUNT PROTEIN PROTEIN
(gm) (gm/100 cal)

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Tempeh 1 cup 31 9.5
Seitan 4 ounces 15-31 21.4-22.1
Soybeans, cooked 1 cup 29 9.6
Veggie dog 1 link 8-26 13.3-20
Veggie burger 1 patty 5-24 3.8-21.8
Lentils, cooked 1 cup 18 7.8
Tofu, firm 4 ounces 8-15 10-12.2
Kidney beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
Lima beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.8
Black beans, cooked 1 cup 15 6.3
Chickpeas, cooked 1 cup 15 5.4
Pinto beans, cooked 1 cup 14 6.0
Black-eyed peas, cooked 1 cup 13 6.7
Vegetarian baked beans 1 cup 12 5.2
Quinoa, cooked 1 cup 11 3.5
Soymilk, commercial, plain 1 cup 3-10 3-12
Tofu, regular 4 ounces 2-10 2.3-10.7
Bagel 1 medium(3 oz) 9 3.7
Peas, cooked 1 cup 9 3.4
Textured Vegetable Protein
(TVP), cooked 1/2 cup 8 8.4
Peanut butter 2 Tbsp. 8 4.1
Spaghetti, cooked 1 cup 7 3.4
Spinach, cooked 1 cup 6 11.0
Soy yogurt, plain 6 ounces 6 6
Bulgur, cooked 1 cup 6 3.7
Sunflower seeds 1/4 cup 6 3.3
Almonds 1/4 cup 6 2.8
Broccoli, cooked 1 cup 5 10.5
Whole wheat bread 2 slices 5 3.9
Cashews 1/4 cup 5 2.7
Almond butter 2 Tbsp 2.4
Brown rice, cooked 1 cup 5 2.1
Potato 1 medium(6 oz) 4 2.6

Sources: USDA Nutrient Database for Standard Reference, Release 12, 1998 and
manufacturers' information.

The recommendation for protein for adult male vegans is around
63-79 grams per day; for adult female vegans it is around 50-63 grams per day (see text).
http://www.vrg.org/nutrition/protein.htm

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Harpyr
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posted February 29, 2004 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
Hey.... sorry all those numbers are so jumbled together.. I don't know how to get them to stay spaced apart.

If you click on that link at the bottom it will bring to the page where i found that chart..

Bummer you are allergic to soy. Fermented soy even? Like tempeh and miso?
Unfortunely alot of the material for protein intake for vegans will involve alot of soy..

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Ariesrocks!
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posted February 29, 2004 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

Yes unfortunately all soy! It's almost like I'm not made to be a fulltime vegetarian. But I'm trying. I guess the main thing is to avoid red meat which I do.
Thanks very much for posting that table! I'll use it. I love beans!!! I guess that will be my salvation..

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atlee
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posted April 15, 2004 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for atlee     Edit/Delete Message
Hi ariesrocks,

I personally don't think meat is necessary to survive. There are lot of things that can give us all that is in meat. Try legumes, fresh tomatoes, lots of spinach , olives and apples.

Cheese once a week is alright , but is a better word to be used by the photographers, if one can avoid it is better.

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Ariesrocks!
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posted April 17, 2004 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

I love cheese so much, I just can't seem to stay away from it!!!!!!

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tahariel
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posted April 17, 2004 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tahariel     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not veggie but heres a recipe I guarantee you will love !

Fry a load of chopped veggies (using a little olive oil), onion, carrot, mushrooms, garlic. All in a saucepan.
When they are a bit cooked, add a tin of chopped tomatoes, cook for a few mins.
Then add Quorn mince,or any veggie mince, a squirting of tomato puree, some torn basil leaves and cook till all juice has evaporated.

Then, you can choose to do one of two things with it !

ONE
You can make lasagne, shove it in layers of lasagne sheets, cover each sheet with cheese sauce (four cheese is best), and on the top layer pop slices of tomato with torn basil, grated cheese and mozarella.
Shove it in the oven then till it's nicely brown.

TWO
Cook soem pasta and pour the mixture on top of it with grated cheese on top.

Healthy, vegetabley and you still get your cheese !!

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ariestiger
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posted May 30, 2004 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestiger     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, in all honesty, Ariesrocks, I'm not sure a vegetarian diet is the right diet for you.
I am the other way. I was brought up eating fish but no meat. When I started eating meat a couple of years ago, I found that it contributed to fibrocystic problems - since it is an inflammatory - so only eat it occasionally, perhaps once a week.
Mind you, within the realms of "meat" there can be tremendous variety and scope. I live in a part of England where game is readily available - so we have partridge, pheasant, duck, venison - all very good (though I do prefer farmed to wild duck - wild duck is too gamey) I don't eat any other farmed meats, I have a horror of the artificial hormone content.
But - I would rather get my iron via meat or lots of green leafy vegetables, rather than a supplement. Vitamins and minerals are best absorbed AS FOOD.

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PinkPearls&Stars
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posted June 02, 2004 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PinkPearls&Stars     Edit/Delete Message
Like a couple of you here, I was anemic as well. It made me get sick to the point of missing about 2-3 months of school. Medicine helped me get over my anemia, but it would pop up through my early teen years, and I still had a terrible immune system. Despite this, I became vegan, and since then, I haven't been anemic or gotten sick half as much. That really is too bad about soy. It has been my miracle food since I became veg. I imagine if I didn't have it, I would attempt frutarianism. It's extreme, so other than that I would recommend cutting out all read meats, and buying high grade hormone free fish or chicken (free-range even), and the organic version of everything to save you from harmful pesticides and perservatives. Many people find wheatgrass to be cure-all! Just my two cents

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Gia
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posted June 04, 2004 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I don't agree that vitamins and minerals are best absorbed by food these days. You'd spend your whole life eating non stop!

Even if you eat the best organic veggie diet. We no longer have those minerals in our over farmed, over fertilzed soil. You don't even get enough even if you eat tons of red meat these days. We most certainly are very deficient in zinc, magnesium, selenium, and believe it or not, calcium. You can eat cheese and drink milk until your nauseated, but the body needs related minerals to help it absorb the nutrition properly. Otherwise it's a waste of time.

So much heart dis-ease is through lack of knowledge about magnesium and B12 which controls the homocystine levels. Eye problems of macular degeneration are helped enormously through vitamin and mineral therapy.

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