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Saffron
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posted October 02, 2004 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
how does one find an authentic shaman? beyond doing a search on yahoo or google....i mean, how do you know you're working with a real shaman who has soul healing powers?

that's what i'm in search of. i feel the need to find a shaman who can help me with soul healing. also one from whom i might be able to learn.

does anyone know how to find a shaman?

i know this is the right time for me to pursue this....i have a package of different varieties of incense, and i usually pick one without looking at its name, but last night as i was thinking about this, i looked down at the package of incense i had chosen and it was called 'shaman'!

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FishKitten
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posted October 02, 2004 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
Just ask the universe to send you the appropriate healer or shaman. But after that, keep your eyes and senses open! The signs can sometimes be subtle.

Namaste.

PS...if they want to charge you a set amount of money, they are probably a fake. If they ask for nothing or for donations or barter, you are on the right track.

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Gia
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posted October 02, 2004 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think you can find them. They find you. Sometimes you can ask and they won't manifest for years. You can heal yourself, nobody else really heals you, but you. As for the teaching, again, an appropriate teacher will appear when the time is right. This might not be a person, it could be an experience, or even a place.

The soul is all powerful and all connected, it heals itself. Why do you feel so unconnected to you? Think about emotional issues that come from outward circumstances that you now believe are part of your soul. They are not. They are illusions that you now believe are soul. Hvae you read the thread 'Free Your Mind' in the Free For All?

Gia

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Saffron
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posted October 03, 2004 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
hi, thank you Fishkitten and Gia ~

i do feel that the universe is answering me.

surely shamans are around for supplying this type of help.

i feel as if i've lost some pieces of my soul, and that i need a kind of assistance in my self-healing; i suppose the kind a shaman would offer.

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Saffron
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posted October 03, 2004 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
i have read your post Gia, and it's something to think about. i have the book and course by Petrene on self healing. have you heard of her?

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FishKitten
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posted October 03, 2004 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
Well said, Gia!

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merciful1
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posted October 03, 2004 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for merciful1     Edit/Delete Message
Self-proclaimed Shamans are dime a dozen. Almost two decades ago I was connected to a man who met tribal qualifications for being called "Medicine Man". He came to my home and chanted, waved an eagle feather around, smudged, and gave me what they call a "fetish". (It was a little rubber dolly-type thing. It felt weird at the time--the fetish.) There was no effect from this. Then I was connected with a man who did not meet the tribal qualifications of "Medicine Man", but he had much experience with healing and helping others. I rode with the latter in his car with him...and the things he said helped to bring me around. Then I had the absolute best massage from him in my whole life. There is a woman here locally that calls herself a Shaman. She is Native American by birth, and she has been thoroughly trained in that. She also has other credentials...I think she is a licensed psychologist. I think that no person has a copyright on healing methods, and no religion or spiritual orientation has a monopoly on healing power. If you search, you can probably find someone that would be qualified. I think your inner knowing would tip you off.

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Saffron
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posted October 03, 2004 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
well, not sure how much of the following is relevant for me. but i'll post it anyway and highlight the more relevant parts.

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SYMPTOMS OF PSYCHIC OR MAGICAL HARM

Potential symtoms of psychic or magical harm from another, intentional or otherwise, include the following:

*A feeling that you are being watched by something creepy, unfriendly, or malevolent, particularly during a time of quiet refelction alone or when doing any spiritual work.

*A sense of heaviness or pressure, as if something were sitting on your chest or shoulders. This physical presence may be accompanied by a sense of cold or heat manifesting as a sudden change in an otherwise normal temperature, without a proper weather change in the environment to support such a temperature shift.

*Hearing voices of a malevolent nature. Usually these are "psychic voices" heard in the mind, but at times they can feel is real that they seem audible. Sometimes more than one person in the same vicinity can hear them at the same time.

*Unusual psychic manifestations of fearsome things. These manifestations can occur as obsessive thoughts of accidents or attacks, when you are not normally prone to obsessive thinking. Manifestations can also include visions. Some visions occur as brief but disturbing glimpses in day-to-day woking life. Others appear in full detail during meditations and rituals, interrupting your spiritual work.

*Vivid, recurring nightmares. Often, the images are of things that are generally considered fearsome, but are not necessarly your personal fears and phobias.

*A sharp stabbing pain in the body. Such a pain usually maifests as a headache. Traditionally, it is said to occur when the antagonist's name is mentioned in the presense of the target for psychic attack, or when the target thinks about the antagonist. this is often felt as a strong headache at the third eye without explanation, or is a sharp pain where the skull and neck meet. Pains could also be located at chakra points.

*A slow and steady drain on your personal energy. Such drains can affect your work and personal life.... Your intuition and ability to use energy can diminish. This is usually accompanied by intense feelings of cold when you are not normally prone to being cold.

*An experience of psychic loss or entrapment. In certain traditions, harmful practictioners curse you by trapping a portion of your energy body and preventing it from returning to your body. Some consider this portion to be a part of your soul. You do not lose your soul itself, but what is considered a fragment or shard of your soul, in the shamanic traditions.

Traumatic experiences can cause parts of our energy to fragment. If we do not heal and rest to integrate them, the trauma can cause them to leave our proximity and hide in the other world for safety. Healing either of a shamanic or traditional nature, can usually coax these parts back to us, unless they are purposely blocked by another.

In the Voodoo traditions, harmful practitioners are said to grab your "ti bon ange" or "little angel" also referred to as the astral body, which travels when you sleep. They use spells to trap this little self in hope of exerting influence over the peron in the waking world. Symptoms of this experience incude a feeling of loss; a loss of power, purpose, or self-identity; a lack of will; a lack of interest in life or a walking-zombie-like attitude; or going through the motions of life, but never fully paritcipating. Other healers call this ghost walking, and it can occur either through harmful magick or naturally through trauma or illness.

*Losing many personal objects of importance when you are not naturally prone to misplace things

*Suddenly becoming accident-prone when you are normally graceful. Accidents may cause you to break precious objects or to injure yourself or others, from bumps and bruises to more severe injuries

*A sudden and unexpected illness when no other causes of the illness are apparent. If you in touch with your body, do a deep meditation and scan to determine the source of the illness and the message your body is giving you. If you can't find a cause, this can be a potential symtom of psychic attack.

In many folk magic traditions, practitioners of harmful magic would curse an entire family. Usually their weakest member of the family, the baby, is most susceptible to the harmful energy of the curse, and will experience an extended bout of colic that is not cured by traditional methods.

In many indigenous traditions of healing, it is believed that many illnesses are caused by a source of harmful energy outside of the afflicted. If someone wishes you ill will, even unconsciously, it can manifest as illness or injury. Breaking the energy of ill will, or banishing the spirit of sickness, heals the illness.

*A long chain of events that can only be catagorized as "bad luck" paritcularly in financial, personal, or romantic areas of life. Again, as when we look at illness as a potential symtom of psychic attack, you must be introspective to find the root of your "bad luck" often we create the circumstances of our situation, and cannot blame them on other people wishing us ill. Just as illness can be a sign from our body and spirit telling us to find balance and healing, experiences with unfortunate circumstanes can guide us to a life in geater harmony.

*An unconscious change in your physical upkeep and appearance, as if part of you were trying to hide. The few times that I felt I was the target of harmful psychic energy. I found myself not shaving for long periods of time, and constantly changing my facial hair and usual wardrobe, like I wanted to throw someone off my trial. I didnt realize I was doing this at the time. It was only in retrospect that I could see the reasons for my behaviour.

*Any of the previous symptoms manifesting after recieving a strange, unexpected, or unwanted gift from either a stranger or from someone who you suspect means your harm. Practictioners of harmful magic will often link their curses and spells to objects, and transfer thier harm through the object.
A friend of mine received and expensive sweater from a very sickly woman who wanted my friends job at a metaphysical store. As soon as she wore it, she became deathly ill. It was only after the sweater was buried with a protection ritual that her sickness left, as mysteriously as it began. I recieved a neclace under similar circumstances, but burned it before I ever wore it, recongnizing the intent. My gift giver was surprised to see me up and around.

*An experience of partial or full possession. Possession is when a malevolent spirit, often referrred to as a demon or devil, attempts to control a physical body. Partial possession created the feeling that something foreign is attempting to take you over, or that you are simly not "alone" inside your body. Full possession ranges from the feeling that you have lost motor control of your body or that someone else has motor control of you, to the clasic sterotypical images of possession with speaking in malevolent voices and foreign languages, physical contortions, and feats of strength. It is important to note that true, full possessioin is the least frequent cccurrence of those listed, and that most recorded cases of demonic possession during the witch trials of Europe were most likely cases of ergot poisoning, a fungus growing on grain that produces a bad LSD like effect and also confers temporary strength and madness.


now i'm not sure why i relate to this subject matter. i don't discount the notion that i myself could be the cause of the disharmony i feel. here's what the author says about harmful energy:

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Harmful Energy:

"Harmful energy" is a phrase I use where other people say "negative energy" I don't use the term negative evergy and strongly suggest that other people don't use it in ritual. Denoting "negative" with "bad" and "positve" with "good" is another polarizing New Age concept. Although the intention behind such words is clear, the literal meaning is not, since negative/positve refer to an electrical charge, and things like negative ions can be healthy for you. Anything that brings you out of balance is "bad" but it is not necessarily negative. If it is something that causes harm, disruption, or imbalance, then call it harmful, unbalanced, or discordant energy.
Harmful energy is not always conscioius. Usually it is a very unconscious reminant from day-to-day living. Arguments, violence, grief, depression, stress, and illness can leave unbalanced energy in an environment that lingers, like dust balls uner the bed. Most people don't know how to clean them up, because they can't "see" them, so they remain there for quite a while. We all go through touch times, but if the feelings seem to linger, then perhaps itis the energy of the time that remains, even if the situation has resolved itself.
Harmful energy can be found anywhere and can create situations that cause physical, mental, and emotional, discomfort, form headaches and nausea to feeling trapped in emotional/mental patterns.


i don't own this book, but hope to purchase it soon. i have read elsewhere that when a person feels this level of psychic disharmony, for whatever reason, that usually a shamanic healer can be very beneficial in helping to move through harmful energy.

i just don't feel equipped to resolve this myself.

*****breathing in light*****

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