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GoldenArcher
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From: Texas, USA
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posted December 20, 2004 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoldenArcher     Edit/Delete Message
Do you think smoking is really harmful? I just don't trust the medical establishment anymore.

I keep thinking I need to quit smoking for my health, but I am *so* addicted and almost grieve when I think of giving it up. I love smoking, but I think I need to quit. I'm so confused!

Any sage advice?

TYIA

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marcia
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posted December 20, 2004 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marcia     Edit/Delete Message
Ofcourse it's harmful, baby.

I believe Linda Goodman had her own theory though (I'd have to dig up my StarSigns, though)

You can trust medicine as long as you use your own discretion

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trillian
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posted December 20, 2004 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
I do not trust "modern medicine." We all must educate ourselves and become responsible for our own health.

Yes, cigarettes are harmful. Be aware that you are not merely smoking tobacco. You are smoking carcinogens/toxins/chemicals that have been applied to the tobacco to ensure that you become addicted.

If you acknowledge that inner voice, you will know your own truth.

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trillian
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posted December 20, 2004 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
btw, I quit smoking over 10 years ago, and never looked back. It was the best thing I ever did for myself. I was smoking at least two packs a day. And I used a product called CigArrest to help me.

Read about some of the toxins in cigarettes here:
http://www.hn.psu.edu/programs/health/cig_chemicals.html
http://www.quit-smoking-stop.com/harmful-chemicals-in-cigarettes.html

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miss_apples
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From: white bear lake, MN, USA
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posted December 20, 2004 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for miss_apples     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I think smoking really is bad for you.

However I wouldnt quit unless you really feel ready. If you are already feeling the guilt and pressure to quit, that guilt and pressure will cause you to keep picking up the habit even if you try to quit. So just relax and take your time

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moonbaby
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posted December 20, 2004 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonbaby     Edit/Delete Message
it is harmful on a lot of levels...but the sole fact that u are inhaling foreign bodies in your lungs where there shouldnt be anything, is not a good thing

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Saffron
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posted December 20, 2004 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
hi Golden ~

did you know that organic, toxin-free cigarettes are available? American Spirit cigarettes offer a 100% natural tobacco product:

quote:
Perhaps the best way to describe our 100% additive-free tobacco blend is to talk about what’s not in it: no additives, no reconstituted sheet tobacco, no scrap tobacco, no processed stems. Natural American Spirit Tobacco Products contain only premium quality, 100% additive-free, whole leaf, natural tobacco. Other cigarette manufacturers may add reconstituted sheet tobacco, processed or chemically-expanded stems, chemically-derived synthetic flavorings, humectants, or any of the 464 additives that are commonly added by other tobacco companies to their tobacco. We add none of these things to Natural American Spirit.

In addition, to make Natural American Spirit a longer lasting, more satisfying cigarette, we use up to 25% more tobacco per cigarette than other king size cigarettes. Not surprisingly, more tobacco can mean higher tar and nicotine. To ensure that smokers may find a cigarette that meets their individual preferences, we offer Natural American Spirit in ten styles with varying tar and nicotine yields as measured by the FTC method.


Natural American Spirit Cigarettes

also available is a tobacco-free, herbal cigarette from Ecstacy Cigarettes:

quote:
A magical tobacco free combustible made of exotic, organic herbs, synergistically blended for maximum dispersion and micro-flaked to create a blended leaf structure, that is then shred to exacting specifications. This guarantees our mild even-flow burn and equal distribution of all five herbs to every puff. Our herbal blend and activated carbon filter keep tar levels to a minimum, maximizing your smoking pleasure while minimizing the adverse physical impact of smoking.

Contents: Damiana, Passion Flower, Wild "Opium" Lettuce, Catnip and Wild Peppermint

Chlorine-Free Paper - Natural 02 & Heat Treated Botanicals


Ecstacy Herbal Cigarettes

i'm not a smoker -- at all -- and i certainly wouldn't recommend it, but until you find a comfort level with it, i would suggest these smokes.

love, Saffron

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marcia
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posted December 21, 2004 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marcia     Edit/Delete Message
Ooooooh, Saffron.

Thankies for that

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thirteen
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posted January 03, 2005 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thirteen     Edit/Delete Message
I quit smoking 7 years ago and i am glad i did. My grandmother ( 91 yrs.) has smoked at least a pack a day from a young age and has never had a lung or breathing problem. Go figure. I don't know what is true but it seems to me that smoking is probably not good for you even if it doesn't actually kill you.

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monad
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posted January 04, 2005 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monad     Edit/Delete Message
a fail safe way of giving up is to smoke less of the cigaterette, and smoke only when you feel the need to... I dont know how bad they are.
take up another habit.

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geminstone
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From: Golden, CO
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posted January 04, 2005 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminstone     Edit/Delete Message
Hi GoldenArcher,

You said it yourself, listen to your inner wisdom. I have smoked for, roughly, 13 years. About half my life. I quit twice, ' cold turkey ', each time for the better part, of one year. Yet, here I now sit, with a ciggy. I failed, on several occasions to quit, with the use of the ' aides '. I had, very vivid, dreams when I was using the ' aide ' of the patch, to the point of being terrified that I had burnt my home to the ground, while my family slept,.... yes, my dreams, always suggested I smoke.... Hhmmmm, ' aide '? My very last attempt to give up the habit, for good, left my wallet 200$ lighter and, cured me,... for 2 hours. That last attempt was a, ' garrantied to work ', session of hypnotherapy. That was my own experience however and, everyone is different.... One thing I can be sure of, if you have the NOTION to quit, without the 110% backing of WILLPOWER, to see it through, you will still be one of ' US '. The filthy, unconserned and, inconsiderate, SMOKERS! Yes, it is not the best you can do for your body. Just be sure that you KNOW your will, before you waste money and aggrevate what is, not yet, ready to be. Though, there will always be those who say that, in smoking, you already throw away money. Many of them, will be at their local Starbuck's, come morning rituals, to ' wake up '. It is, ultimately, dependant on what YOU want for you, that will determine success or failure, at being a quitter. Take it one moment at a time. Really understand your own motivations; those behind WHY it is you smoke, as well as, your reasons behind quitting. Also, do remember, EVERYONE has a vice of one kind or another. Smoking is not, nearly, as bad as the current ideas of it suggest. That is only my opinion however. Funny, how I am a, MAJOR, contributer to everyone's air quality but, lost in the blame, is the car, or two or, many that is parked right under the very same roof. Of which, millions of others are in existance and, utilized daily. Obviously, I would be the ' BAD ' example of someone who is ready to quit...... I am, in no way, trying to imply that smoking is a good thing, I just get tired of the BS and, I will not be told what I can or, cannot do, to the only ' thing ', that is, truely, MINE. Nor will I be a scapegoat for the woes of unknowns. Be sure you quit, for YOU! Until then, others can hold their breath....

Hey, here's something to ponder...... why do bars have parking lots?

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trillian
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posted January 04, 2005 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
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Smoking is not, nearly, as bad as the current ideas of it suggest. That is only my opinion however

Yup. Your opinion.
If I stop for a coffee in the morning, I am not polluting anyone's body but my own. Those who smoke around me take away my choice to breathe well and without tar, etc. Personally, I like ostracizing smokers. I don't want cigarette smoke in my office, my home, etc.

Read through some of the earlier posts. Tobacco is not nearly so bad as the insidious additives found in commercial cigarettes that ensure you will be addicted, and further compromise your health.

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sesame
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posted January 04, 2005 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sesame     Edit/Delete Message
Here's an older thread: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000701.html

I still feel hte need to smoke if I'm in bars where people smoke - especially if they're friends, and I usually give in very fast. So, I just make sure I don't go to these situations I've found that if I don't smoke for months, then have a few at night with beer, I will feel it for at least a week. I'll be cranky, phlemy (sp) and have indigestion all week. And then I'm almost back to normal. It's pretty hard stuff really. But I still think you mustn't view it as so bad or it will be. The more emphesis you place on something, the more it will have

Best of Luck with it,
Dean.

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cynicalpsychic
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From: fussa, tokyo, japan
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posted January 05, 2005 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cynicalpsychic     Edit/Delete Message
i smoke too, and i know it's bad for you...
and as others have mentioned, you get addicted to the stuff that they put into the cigarette as well. when i first started smoking, i was a camel smoker. and i remember that if i ever ran out of cigarettes and bummed one from someone else, i would never feel fully satisfied, because i wasn't getting exactly the right blend of chemicals that my body was craving.
i did quit for awhile, cold turkey...but a weekend in vegas blew that.
but now i smoke american spirits, which are additive free, as someone else pointed out. i like them because they don't make me get that "oh my god i need a cigarette right now" feeling that i now presume came from the chemical addiction in the camels that i smoked.
and i know people who's doctors have recommended switching to american spirits as sort of an "in between" step to quitting.
but really you have to be ready to quit. sometimes i'd like to quit, but i know i'm not ready for it and will just be disappointed in my failure. for me, i think the time will be when i'm ready to have babies. i'm a teacher and it just sickens me when my students come in reeking of cigarette smoke. (and i know it's their parents, not them...my kids are young, in the 3-10 age range)

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Gia
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posted January 12, 2005 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Trillian. People have smoked for years with no problems until they started smoking chemicals. It's not just what they put into these smokes during production, but the sprays, anti fungals and other bad stuff. I like the idea of the organic smokes even though I'm not a smoker myself.

Gia

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The_Toothfaerie
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From: Anacortes, Washington, USA
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posted January 16, 2005 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Toothfaerie     Edit/Delete Message
i quit cold turkey about 3 years ago because it litterally hurt to smoke, i mean it started burning my lungs, and making my teeth ache every time i took a drag, also it started making me gag...it was horrible...i was up to about one and a half packs a day...and to tell you the truith it wasnt very hard...well not as hard as i thought it would be, after about a week i didnt crave them at all, and i rarely ever get cravings anymore...only when i hevily drink, but i still havent touched a cigarette in almost 3 years (next month)

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