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trillian
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posted January 25, 2005 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Gia,
Hope this finds you well.

Wanted to mention to you that yesterday I started on a whole body detox. Raw foods, body cleansing herbs. It's the 30 Day Detox from Dr. Richard Schulze, designed to heal and get you off medication. So I also stopped taking my thyroid meds...wish me luck.

Through the detox I'll continue to incorporate coconut oil for the thyroid, and I've ordered organic ashwaganda root that I'll use to make my own tincture. That way I'll know it's pure and not tainted with lots of pesticides, etc.

If you'd like to know more about the detox, I'll be happy to write some more about it. Or maybe there's info on his website, I'll have to check.

You're a busy lady, but I thought I'd share this with you. Be well.


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Saffron
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posted January 26, 2005 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
sorry, not gia here....but i'm interested!

can you tell more about the detox diet and how it's healing? more about the herbs too.

i've been reading up on coconut lately and all its magical properties. on dr. mercola's site suggesting that ultimately eating the whole fruit yields the most benefits.

easy for me to do, as lately i've craved fresh raw coconut. the reason -- i live in a small town with a little fruit cup shop that serves the most delicious combination of fruits, the most basic of which is chunks of watermelon, cucumber, cantaloupe, pineapple, and coconut. then topping this is a chile powder, lime juice and salt mixture. mmmmmmmm...so delicious! and this also is very cleansing. i always ask for double the coconut as it's the best thing i've ever eaten i think. i never knew that fresh coconut was this good. nothing like the shredded, processed stuff.

so now, i'm going to try preparing my own coconut.....i'm not quite sure how to do that, but i hope i can get it open at least.

anyway, that might be something beneficial for your diet too -- the raw coconut and fruit with chile, lime and salt.

anyway, i hope to do something like this detox soon too, so if you want to share anything about it, i'd be in the audience.

do tell also how goes it with dropping those meds. that takes much courage and i wish you all the success in the world. i'd love to see this work for you!

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trillian
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posted January 26, 2005 07:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Saffron,

I'll be happy to share. I've been using Dr. Schulze's products for years and I am a true believer. His credo: There are no incurable diseases! Some of his products are a little on the costly side, but they are so pure, and so strong, that there just is no equal. What's more, is that he freely shares so much information, and has even shared his recipes in various publications. I make his female formula myself, by ordering organic products from a company in Washington state, and following his recipe to make the tincture.

There is lots of great information on his website at www.herbdoc.com. Out of all the pretenders out there, this man is the real deal.

His 30 Day detox is a jumpstart to total wellness. He has an incurables program that is far more intense, but for most of us, the Detox is the best place to begin. Now, the herbs and tonics for this cost $300, but I feel it was money well spent.

Week One: Bowel Cleanse
Week Two: Liver/Gallbladder flush
Week Three: Kidney/Bladder cleanse
Week Four: Bowel Cleanse

Lots of people do a 30 day juice fast, but it's hard enough for me to do raw foods, so I'm sticking with those. Don't get me wrong--I love raw foods, but I'm not sure I could live on them exclusively. He allows raw nuts and grains, sprouted beans, and raw foods made in the dehydrator.

Lots of fresh juice. He'll tell you there is nothing on earth more healing than fresh juice. If you are sick, stop eating and start juicing. Consume a lot of raw garlic (which you do on this program). Incorporate a lot of cayenne (the truly hot stuff, I use an organic, powdered cayenne daily that is about 150,000 heat units, though I can't remember exactly what the measurement is called).

Positive affirmations are important, another thing I like about the good Dr. Schulze. Hot and cold therapy is part of the detox too. That means alternating hot and cold 7 times in the shower, for fifteen seconds each time, concentrating on an area that is a trouble spot or ill. For me, that's the neck.

Coconut Oil...I checked Dr. Mercola's website. He's an advocate of the low-carb programs so that put me off a bit. But I found a lot of sound advice there, too.

I get my coconut oil here: http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/

As far as I've been able to tell, it's the freshest, most organic available. I use the oil, and also use a lot of coconut milk for cooking. Fresh coconut is hard to find here in Central PA! In fact, it's not always easy to find lots of delicious things that are found in more metropolitan areas. I have had fresh coconut a time or two, and you're right, it can't be compared. Very delicious.

Today is only day 3 of the 30 day detox. I'm a little tired and irritable, which I think is to be expected. I have a dinner party to attend Friday, just a pot luck among friends, and I offered to bring the really big fresh raw salad. That way, I know there will be something I can eat!

I'll write more soon. Right now I must go take my water therapy shower. I have high hopes, Saffron. Thank you for your interest.
The coconut, chile, lime and salt combination is making my mouth water...

Are you in the U.S.? If you like what you see on his website, I can send you some of his newsletters. Once anyone orders something, getting the newsletters is complimentary, and I have some I can spare.

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Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
hi Trillain ~

wow, i'm really looking forward to perusing his website. what you mention sounds utterly intense though! i don't think i could do a living/raw foods diet presently. i'd have to work up to it.

i'm in the middle of moving house right now, so i can't delve too deeply into this until a little later, but it's my first priority once the move is complete. i won't even open up the boxes of my new food-processor and juicer until then.

PA is beautiful. i lived in Pittsburgh for a while. a lovely city and a very lovely state. are you a PA native? if i find some good coconuts i'll send some to you.

i hope you're feeling ok without the thyroid medicine....may i ask, does your doctor know about this? does she approve? i really do hope this works for you.

and low carb...ewww....i'm more of detractor in that area than even a non-fan!

i'll check back after i look further at the info you've posted. thank you.

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posted January 27, 2005 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Trillian! Wow, you started the Detox program? How cool! Today is day 4, right? How are you feeling so far?
Man, 30 days! You are such a trooper. Best of luck!

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trillian
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posted January 27, 2005 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Mornin' Ladies.
Yin, I thought of you when I began it. How are you sweetie?

Saffron...The raw foods isn't easy! And I'm not fond of oil & vinegar salad dressings, so I've fudged a wee bit and made them with some Nutritional Yeast and coconut milk. I'm hoping that doesnt alter my results. And although I can get some organic produce here, there aren't a lot of choices and it is very expensive...so my raw foods aren't completely organic, either, which the Doc recommends.

I love nuts so having a little trail mix with nuts and raisins and other dried fruits is a yummy treat, and I love fruit smoothies too. It's really not so bad. The hard part might be the social situations, but I decided to do this, and do this I will! Next week includes 3 days of juice fast, as does the week after that. Those might be challenging for me.

Yeah, I feel the same about the whole low-carb thing. Ewwww.

No, my doctor doesn't know about this, and no, he wouldn't approve. But...I don't think doctors have all the answers. The thyroid medications don't heal, only alleviate the symptoms, causing the thyroid to shrink further. I'm paraphrasing Dr. Schulze, but his response to those who have thought his cleansings are too 'radical,' well, there's nothing more radical than surgery, chemotherapy, etc. I like his approach, because we take charge of our own health.

Yup, today is day 4 and I am feeling...a little tired, with a mild headache, but otherwise quite well and I'm in a good mood. It will be interesting (to me, of course, I don't expect anyone else to be interested) to see how I feel as I continue the program.

Thank you for your well wishes, they are much appreciated. And I love talking about Dr. Schulze, so as I have time I'll try to post some interesting excerpts from his writings.

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trillian
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posted January 27, 2005 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
btw, I live about 90 miles east of Pittsburgh, and have gone there often for concerts, shopping, etc. It's a wonderful city. Yup, I'm a native of PA, was even born in Pittsburgh. Currently I live not far from Johnstown, which is a small city.

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Saffron
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posted January 27, 2005 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
oh i'm a big proponent of taking charge of your own health! bravo!

i had a doctor diagnose me with pneumonia; he guaranteed me that if i didn't take his antibiotics and respiratory medicine that i would end up in the emergency room deathly ill. but i didn't....i just couldn't do it...and i took my own version of natural supplements that i had read as remedies in anthroposophic medicine. i ended up healthier than if i had taken all that immune suppressing medicine.

but i know thyroid is a serious thing, and wondered how an allopathic doctor would react to such healing measures.

a suggestion for salad dressing: you can make a nice creamy dressing with avocado. combine this with some good spices and it's awesome. i'll find one for you if you like. have you tried braggs amino acids? wonderful in raw food....not fermented.

also, don't hesitate to relate what you're feeling with your regimen....i've done similar detoxes with raw foods and paid close attention to my physical and mental reactions, so i'd be interested in yours as well. plus, it might help you to express some of what you're feeling here, just to 'detox' your psyche. i'm sure everyone would very tolerant and supportive of your feelings in this process.

i think it's a tremendous effort you're making and i'd love to know how you progress. this kind of thing detoxes your mind and emotions too. something Dr. Schulze seems to take in consideration, with affirmations and everything. i like that a lot.

herbert shelton wrote extensively about his water fasts and how they affected his emotions. even about how continuing a raw foods and food combining diet affects your emotions. i think it's fascinating!

in a sense, being a vegetarian for 12 years has been like one, slow detox...i know it's affected my psyche.

healing-light-strength-love-energy to you Trillian...

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Gia
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posted January 27, 2005 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Trillian,

I'm wishing you luck in getting off thyroid meds. I know from my own experience it can be done. Do I think you need to detox? Well it depends on what you eat and how you eat I suppose. I don't believe in fasting myself because I truly believe in building up the body and not depriving it. I think the raw foods are great and I do believe in drinking loads of water. You can use veggies to detox without starving yourself you know.

However you do it, I wish you health.


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posted February 03, 2005 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saffron     Edit/Delete Message
hey Trillian....how you doing? hope your detox is going well...please check in and let us know.

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posted February 03, 2005 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Trillian, please do!

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trillian
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posted February 05, 2005 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Hi lovelies. Thank you for all the well wishes. I tried to respond to this yesterday, and lost a nice long post, and my home 'puter is down...so I'll squeeze in a reply today at work.

First, Gia, thank you too. I wasn't really asking if you thought I needed a detox, only wanted to share some of the info with you as I know you are as interested as I in alternative healing, especially regarding the thyroid. While some choose to do this program with a 30 day juice fast, a raw foods diet is acceptable (except for two 3-day periods that require juice only when cleaning the liver/gallbladder and kidneys).
All I can say is that I understand Dr. Schulze's claim that fresh juice is the most concentrated medicine on earth, and that when the body needs to heal, it needs juice and a respite from solid foods and the energy needed to digest them. If you are interested, read some of his material. And my offer stands to send you some of his literature. I discovered his works years ago, almost by accident (as if accidents exist! ) He is a true Healing Crusader and I admire him enormously.

Now, how am I doing on the detox? Welllll...I'd say fine!

Week #2 was difficult! I've heard it said that when doing a serious detox, all kinds of cr@p comes out of your body and you may go through a 'healing crisis,' where some of your symptoms are worse before better. This is true of those who treat a systemic candida problem--the 'die off' is worse than the symptoms at first.

When I began the detox I was recovering from a sinus infection. Week #2 brought it all on again--though intuitively or otherwise I knew this was different, and a product of the detox. From Monday through Thursday it was awful--so much sinus pressure and pain, constantly blowing my nose, very low energy. Every day after work I had enough energy to prepare my 'stuff' for the next day, then I sat on my butt and watched television with my big box of Puffs.

And the program itself was difficult for week 2. The herbs and herb teas were bitter. I made the Potassium broth and choked it down for a few days (its meant to also pull out mucous from your body, and boy did it), but it was so awful (and not mandatory) that I didn't make a second batch. Every morning began with a liver flush drink, too. 8 oz fresh orange juice, juice of one lemon and one lime, fresh ginger root, olive oil and fresh garlic. Day one is one clove garlic, and one tablespoon of olive oil. By day 5, it is 5 of each.

I was very self conscious that I stunk of garlic all week. It's a good thing I love the stuff.

And of course there were three days of juice fast this week.

But by Friday, I was feeling nearly normal. Today is sunny and beautiful and I'm feeling pretty darn good! Hungry for pizza, but otherwise pretty darn good! I think I've probably dropped a few pounds too.

There are hot/cold showers every day to stimulate the blood/healing, and I have to admit that I haven't been able to do two of those a day, every day. But at least one I've been able to fit in.

So there ya go...it was a miserable week but I'm now halfway through it. I hate living only on raw foods, and I'm sick of all of it. But I can live for two more weeks. I haven't bought a dehydrator, because frankly I don't think I would do the work or use it after the detox.

Thank you so much for your interest and your encouragement. And if there's anything you want to know, just ask.

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posted February 07, 2005 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Trillian,

Yes I do understand. I know you were not asking a direct question as to fasting. I guess I was just expressing an opinion. I do believe in both veg and fruit juice. I juice myself daily. I do believe in detox too, only I don't believe in total fasting.

Good job for seeing it through.

Gia

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posted February 07, 2005 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Trill,
I really really admire you for taking charge of your health like that. I'm seriously considering some form of full body cleanse as soon as I live in my own place and can prepare food how I wish, and have the chance to eliminate the tempting junk stuff.
I have the sneaking suspicion that 90% or more of my health issues are manifestations of stress and the other 10% are entirely due to a clogged and impure body from all the food I take in that is unhealthy.
I look forward to hearing more of your progress, so keep the updates coming!

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As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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posted February 08, 2005 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PinkPearls&Stars     Edit/Delete Message
i congratulate you on your road to health. i suppose all roads lead to rome, but i hope you've found the one best suited for you. lots of love!

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trillian
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posted February 08, 2005 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you very much, Gia, VAA and PPS.

You know, I suppose all roads can lead to Rome. There are all sorts of ways to detox the body. And I have heard tales of those who heal themselves while still eating what we call junk food. But I am not one who has been able to accomplish that. I'm not fond of modern medicine, either. One of the things that I love so much about Dr. Schulze is that he insists we take charge of our own health. It all comes down to choice.

Today begins the 2nd 3-day juice fast. Whoopeee.

I really appreciate your support.

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posted February 08, 2005 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Keep up the good work, Trillian!

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posted February 15, 2005 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian, how is the detox going?

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trillian
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posted February 15, 2005 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yin
Frankly, I'm glad it's the final week. I'm just not fond of eating raw food exclusively.

But I'm feeling really great. Thank you for caring...

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trillian
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posted February 16, 2005 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
I am really, really friggin' sick of raw foods.

Only a few days to go but I don't think I can look another freakin' raw salad in the face.

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posted February 16, 2005 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian, if an Aries can't do it, no one can (well, maybe a Cappie can) You only have a few days left. It'll be fine!

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posted February 18, 2005 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
*grumble grumble*

Thanks Yin.

It actually works out to a 4-week, 28-day program. Thank Goddess. I want soup.

*grumble grumble*

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