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tracysalome
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posted February 05, 2005 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
So where do grains fit in to the breathtarian diet? would they be considered a veggie?

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trillian
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posted February 05, 2005 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Ummm...don't breatharians not eat? Isn't that the point? Vegetarians eat grains, fruits,veggies, some eat dairy generally anything that is not meat...vegans anything that is not an animal or animal by-product...fruitarians eat fruit and no grains or veggies...and breatharians just don't eat. Or am I mistaken?

In any event, a grain is a grain, and not a vegetable.

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Eleanore
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posted February 05, 2005 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
If I'm remembering correctly, breatharians can eat grains and fruits on occassion when they feel they need it. Something about cleansing out your body or something. But generally, they don't eat.

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proxieme
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posted February 05, 2005 11:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for proxieme     Edit/Delete Message
Nuts.

Are there any living breatharians?

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tracysalome
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posted February 06, 2005 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
sorry i meant on the road to breathtarianism. I love grains and always have I rarely use meat as a staple ever.I just didn't remember linda mentioning it.

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tracysalome
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posted February 06, 2005 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
P.S. sometimes when I post or respond I tend to get ahead of myself and sometimes phrase things the wrong way, and in this case i think it's safe to say that I have recieved some (in my opinion) mean sarcasm (trillian). Would you make fun of a retarded person? In my case i think (as much as i hate to admit it but my feelings are hurt) that i have a slight case of add which i can't help. Also it took me about 10 minutes to phrase that the way I wanted.

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proxieme
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posted February 06, 2005 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for proxieme     Edit/Delete Message
tracy - I understand the writing problem.
My husband - frankly, one of the more intelligent people that I know - is almost unintelligible when he writes unless he reads and re-reads and re-re-reads and...you get the point...everything because of his ADHD.

Out of pure curiosity, what're your Sun/Moon/Asc? What's going on w/ Uranus in your chart?

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26taurus
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posted February 06, 2005 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Hi tracy. I just wanted to remind you of these since they just popped back up in Astrology. I gave you a couple of helpful links in one of them.

Dont worry I have communication problems too. And dont feel hurt, I dont think trillian was trying to be mean.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004434.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/004435.html

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Eleanore
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posted February 06, 2005 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, you can eat grains all through the path to breatharianism. There's some who'll argue against using bleached flours etc. or the fact that you may be allergic to wheat or something ... but generally you can eat grains. I recall that, once you get to fruitarianism, you should also only eat grains when you feel the need for them so it's a little rarer but still permissable. Hope that's a little clearer. Geez, now I have to dig through my Star Signs once again just to make sure.

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trillian
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posted February 07, 2005 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message

Sarcasm? What sarcasm?

Sorry you feel that way but I think you are being a little overly sensitive by equating my post to making fun of a retarded person. There was no sarcasm in my post, nor did I make fun of you.

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tracysalome
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posted February 07, 2005 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian, I was a little frustrated when I posted my response but it seems like sometimes when "new" people post other people who have been around longer post as if they think they aren't as spiritually evolved as them. I'm not saying every post is like that, and I also fully understand and appreciate exchanging viewpoints and philosiphies - I love to learn new things and hear other people, it always seeds fresh ideas and ideals for me. I'm also not saying that I have gone all that far on my spiritual path but I'm on my way and I just don't like being treated as if i'm inferior - because it is wrong make someone feel that way especially in a spiritual aspect. Had you said " When you become a breathtarian, you don't eat anything." It would not have hurt my feelings. I realized that I made a mistake of how it was phrased. Do you see what I mean? If you meant it different from what I think, let me know.

Proxieme: Uranus is in the 4th house on my chart which is ruled by saggitarius. I plan to look on the link provided in the astrology topic for me to see what that means.

Thanks to everyone for your responses. I always like to plan ahead and I couldn't re-read that section in Star Signs because I have recently given my last copy to someone who had troubles with 4's and 8's and was very interested in many of linda's insights.

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trillian
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posted February 08, 2005 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message

So in other words, I should tailor my responses to conform to what you expect them to be, because otherwise you feel 'less enlightened?' None of us is more 'enlightened' than any other. It's a word I care for less and less.

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If you meant it different from what I think, let me know.

I already did.

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tracysalome
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posted February 08, 2005 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
I don't mean to start a quarrel, and i don't think that i said enlightened i just meant that everyone's spiritual path is at a different point and by no means does being new to this site offer a way of knowing whos where. I didn't mean to point the finger, It's just that my feelings were hurt. As I said, it takes me a long time to phrase things and I don't want to make a fight with anyone, I love this site and everyone in it, so lets end this subject unless it's about the breathtarian issue. P.S. where do you stand on breathtarianism? are you a vegetarian?

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Tamaryn
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posted February 08, 2005 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tamaryn     Edit/Delete Message
the world lacks people like you trillian. honesty. outspoken and a great sense of humour.

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trillian
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posted February 11, 2005 09:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
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so lets end this subject unless it's about the breathtarian issue.

Ahhh well, you can't deny me the fun of a good academic argument. Threads just take on a life of their own.

In answer to your question, I'm vegetarian. I do still eat a little dairy and on very rare occassions a bit of seafood or fish.

Tamaryn...such kind words. I will humbly say thank you, and I look forward to knowing you better.

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tracysalome
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posted February 11, 2005 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
I don't eat red meats. i think linda's idea of the 5 year periods is good - like a rehab for meaties. Did you start with all meat or red meat? my parents were veggies when I was born until I was around 2. Then they fed me meat after that. I still feed my kids all meat, they need the vitamins.

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trillian
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posted February 12, 2005 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
There's research to support both sides of that coin, tracysalome, that kids need the vitamins in meat. In fact, hmmm, there is protein in meat, but are there vitamins? It seems to me that vitamins are found in fruits grains and veggies...

Personally, I don't think anyone needs meat, nor do they need the antibiotics, growth hormones, and other toxins that we in America insist on feeding livestock (I don't know about other countries). Additionally, we have broken the food chain by forcing cows etc., which are vegetarians, to eat food products we create that contain meat products. Eating meat in America today is not like eating meat 50 years ago. Remember the Oprah debacle, when she found out what was in red meat? Of course, there are those whose studies will disagree (some of whom are on the payroll of meat companies).

I will also concede that different people have different needs. I don't equate the choice to eat or not eat meat with any kind of spiritual enlightenment, or lack thereof. But the way we choose to process meat (meaning the treatment of the animals) sickens and disgusts me.

I started by eliminating red meat, for about a year. I have tried to be vegan for a little while, but the lifestyle is too restricting. Add to that the recent studies that indicate all the adverse affects of soy, and I have started eating some dairy again. I try to buy mostly organic dairy to avoid all those nasty hormones, etc. that I mentioned above.

I have been a vegetarian (with occassional fish, though rarely) for about...hmmm...15 years. As much as I revere Linda, I don't always agree with her, and I personally do not believe it's necessary to become a vegetarian in 5 year increments. It's best to listen to yourself and know what's right for you.

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tracysalome
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posted February 13, 2005 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tracysalome     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Trillian, I think cows are very intelligent creatures and It is sad really what happens to them and how many people eat them without giving a care. My family lives in South Saint Paul, home to a large stockyard. As a smoker, I used to sit outside alot at night after the days activity had dwindled down and there wasn't much traffic going on, and in the cold air of the evening you can smell the vague scent of death ( their home is just right up the hill from the stockyard) and if it's quiet, you can hear the sad moans of the cows as they know what will happen next. And as if that isn't bad enough, you can actually taste an extent of decay in the water. It smells and tastes like a wet dog, which I haven't experienced in any other place but there. My mom actually had culligan come out and set her up because of it. It's just horrible. And to make them eat meat is just evil with a capital E. I thought I would share with you this link of a recent happening in south saint paul, http://wcco.com/siteSearch/local_story_034093508.html and also as I couldn't find any link for this, Tell you (as the topic is about cows escaping) that the very next day, a bull escaped and met the same fate. These were on fairly rural streets with little traffic. Also the saddest and most heart breaking to me is was the escape of it believe 5 pregnant cows that also met the same fate last year, escaping as to try and give their helpless children that they instinctively knew what would be the fate of one last try at life. These cows i'm sure knew exactly what they were doing. I must stop now before I start to cry.

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trillian
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posted February 15, 2005 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Yes...I've read before of such escapes...

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