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Angeldust
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posted March 06, 2005 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angeldust     Edit/Delete Message
Leaving your body when asleep. Is it a dream? Astral projection....or as psycologists insist, depression. If so, I am mighty depressed! Seriously though, each night, I try to fight the feeling of flying, does anyone else out there have the same experience?

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merlinesque
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posted March 06, 2005 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlinesque     Edit/Delete Message
It's both....thing is, when you return from the 'dream' world...you just don't remember it too well, so it feels less real as when your body awakens again. Every night we leave our bodies in order to go travelling in other realms and dimensions. When we do that it can help us to deal with our earthly problems, by creating in different forms our fears, hopes etc...we are meant to be able to help ourselves see the situation better. For example...I had a lucid dream the other night...started off as a normal 'dream' (astral journey)...I was sat talking to someone I love dearly but whom I have had to part from...when suddenly chaos erupted all around me...it was terrifying, aliens were destroying the world around me...the one I love was seperated from me...I was seeing/had created in a storybook kind of way, my situation and how I had to get away from the chaos.
It turned into a lucid travel, when I got so scared that my mind awoke and I realised , that I was dreaming (whilst my body was still asleep)...of course when that happens, you can change the dream. I did, I flew off into the sky and away. Then I awoke instantly, and the 'dream' for a good hour felt MORE real than I felt sitting in my bed. That's because it was real, but I had created it on my astral travels.
You can also find yourself leaving your body and coming back to your body at times...I got confused this morning, trying to levitate and then wondering why I couldn't. My astral self of course, can levitate and I just got my cosmic travels mixed up with my earthly self. It happens. But, the difference is between a "dream" and an astral journey, is that you don't actually realise you are out of your body. You just think it was all happening in your head.

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LeoSweetHeart
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posted March 06, 2005 03:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSweetHeart     Edit/Delete Message
hmm interesting Merlinesque I'm going to read more on it.

I frequently dream I can just get a running start and then just float above everyone else. So I am truly doing this in the astral realm?! And does that count as flying?

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merlinesque
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posted March 07, 2005 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for merlinesque     Edit/Delete Message
Hello LeoSweetHeart,

Linda herself said: "Most occult tomes tell you that ghosts, phantoms and such belong to the astral world of dreams, and are not at home on the material plane in the third dimensional level. It doesn't matter anymore whether that's true or not, because I'm about to conclude that there's no difference between them - dreams and reality. Or is it just that these two concepts are mirror-reversed, and what people believe is one - is, in actuality, the other?"

A dream is real...what you see is what you created in other dimensions for the purpose of helping your Self. We're told dreams are all in our minds...once we start to get stronger in our lucid states, and experience our dreams just as real as physical reality is, then we understand that no matter if we are in body or in astral, there are simply just different levels of reality.
The beauty of the astral is that flying seems to come as second nature. If you remember flying, floating etc...in a hazy memory made misty by the physical mind...then that's what you were doing.

I'm trying very hard to induce lucidity as much as possible...becoming more aware of when I leave my physical body, instead of waking up with a distant memory of what I did. My sights are set on turning that astral dream travel, into a true astral projection experience where I am fully aware. Once that happens...who knows where we will choose to go? I chose to fly away from my dream and seek a new universe...I flew up into the night sky and saw symbols of pink and blue fly past me, then I realised I was flying (how am I flying?) and began to fall. "Wake up, wake up!" I told myself, then my body obeyed.
I see no difference between them, we have to learn to master both the physical and the astral. The astral journeys of dreams and conscious awareness can teach us things we fail to learn alone in the physical.

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ruman
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posted March 07, 2005 02:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ruman     Edit/Delete Message
It seems more like an astral projection. And you must be k-nowing for sure whether you are depressed or not. It dosen't look as though you are. What happens to you during these dreams? Do you feel scared?
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