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Yang
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posted April 21, 2005 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I have had depression in the past and am off the tablets for years now, but I was wondering if you have had depression in th e past, would you get it again later in life?
I am worried as I think I am getting depressed again but I don't want to be put back on tablets again. I have had it once, not again please.

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Saturn's Child
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posted April 21, 2005 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Saturn's Child     Edit/Delete Message
Yang, I think we are vulnerable to depression at times, and certainly if we've had it in the past. If you don't want the pills, try other things...I try anything I can to distract myself...exercise is especially good, in more ways than one, also helping someone else..volunteering, writing it down...anything productive that will get you out of yourself and the deep dark depths.....getting outside in the sunshine is good too. And not to sound trite, but try counting your blessings..find some good to hold on to.

Sending you love

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Philbird
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posted April 22, 2005 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Exercise is good, gets the endorphans going!
I know when you are depressed, you don't want to do anything. Please keep in mind...
1. It WILL pass eventually. (especially if it is due to an actual event)
2. Allow yourself to be depressed, giving yourself permission for your soul to mourn is very healthy!
3. Parents and friends will usually say get over it, because their natural response is want you to return to "normal." That makes them comfortable.
Experiencing depression because of a loss is not the same as major depression. This you don't even know the reason for, that is why I say give yourself permission to grieve, without guilt! Take your time if need be.
Personally, when I have been majorly depressed, it has been because of the guilt I felt, because I didn't live up to everyone else's expectations for me to "feel good."

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Touchstone
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posted April 22, 2005 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Touchstone     Edit/Delete Message
I know how you feel, Yang. It is scary when you've have something like depression and feel it coming on again.

I am in the exact same situation at the moment. I have suffered clinical depression on and off for about thirteen years and have just gone back on tablets.

I do think that exercise and a healthy diet help as does having someone you can talk to. Do you have anyone you feel you could confide in? I know it can be hard, as I find it difficult to talk to loved ones about it.
However, I've finally managed to confide in my family and they have been very supportive.

When you feel down you think there is no light at the end of the tunnel but things do pick up eventually. Live a day at a time and try not to dwell on the future.

Take care,

Touchstone

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wildflwrs
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posted April 22, 2005 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wildflwrs     Edit/Delete Message
The topic on Larry King last night was depression. There were several different guests and different takes on treating it. Margot Kidder (Lois Lane in Superman) has fully recovered and sings the praises of Orthomolecular Medicine. http://www.orthomolecular.org/
http://www.orthomolecular.org/resources/news2.shtml[/URL]
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) is very helpful http://www.nacbt.org/whatiscbt.htm
St. John's Wort might help--but it makes you photosensitive--more prone to sunburn. And the effects of SAME are uncertain for any given individual....but it can be obtained at natural food markets and vitamin stores--it's expensive though.
Oh yeah! Bergamot essential oil is recommended as a natural remedy. And Earl Grey tea has bergamot in it and provides a bit of a boost to the mood.

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Yang
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posted April 22, 2005 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys you are ALL so helpful.. I love you all!

The thing is I don't know if I am getting depressed but somehow I know it will only be a matter of time.
My family would think I have gone mad if I say I am suffering from depression as i put on a brave, happy face when I am around them.But when I am alone it is a different story.However they will take it seriously this time as I have been treated for depression in the past.
Perhaps I should go back to writing poetry and maybe that will ease it.

There is someone I would dearly love to speak to about my problem, but the thing is he is on anti-depressants and I don't think it will be appropriate for me to talk to him.

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wildflwrs
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posted April 23, 2005 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wildflwrs     Edit/Delete Message
Well, maybe you could just ask him to share his experience with you. It's different for everybody. I had an awful time going through trial and error with anti-depressants. Maybe you don't have to tell him about it but just offer to listen.

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marcia
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posted April 24, 2005 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for marcia     Edit/Delete Message
Yang, I know what you mean, I hate and love those damned pills.
I have some st johns wort, I'm gonna try that along with chanting and meditating.
My depression is usually because of bad circumstances.
I'd love to chat with you about things if you're ever feeling down and you wanna talk.
(Don't worry, I'm friendly to chat with)

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Yang
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posted April 24, 2005 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I am still not too keen on talking to him about my depression. I will have to take some time to think about it.

Marcia-Thanks. Please ask Randall for my email address and we can talk via email as opposed to chat rooms. It's much safer.

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Gia
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posted April 24, 2005 09:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
We must remember that it's not natural never to get depressed. We all get depressed and at times for good reason. We can mask the symptoms or we can change the way we look at them.

Please do understand me, I realise we are talking clinical depression here . It's just that I just want to know in my heart that you are not just afraid of depression point blank because of your past and that you understand it's fine to feel off or down sometimes. We all do and often times for good reason.

Gia

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Yang
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posted April 25, 2005 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I am seeing my friend I talked about earlier on during this week. Hope all goes well!

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sue g
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posted April 25, 2005 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yang, I ve had depressions all my life on and off but never took an medication (masochist that I am)! It feels good when I get it to move my body, walk, dance, singing too and playing music, even tho at times thats the last thing you wanna do. Talking about it thro therapy and healing really helped me too - dont let it frighten you, its part of being human, its just knowing what works for you, and in my humble opinion I dont thaink meds treat the long term prob, just numb it down for a while. I saw this in eveidence at the weekend, I was doing a course on healing the family and the only person who didnt let go, was a guy into drugs and booze, interesting isnt if? Sending you love and light, Sue xxxx

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marcia
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posted April 25, 2005 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marcia     Edit/Delete Message
Randall, may I have Yang's email address?

I'm here for you, Yang. I know exactly how you feel. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
I will be sending you some healing light in
the meantime. Could you send some to me too?

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Yang
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posted April 30, 2005 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
I went to go and see my friend this week and I told him what I am going through. We chatted and he gave some solid advice which I will take. He thinks I have a problem, which is understandable.

However, after I walked away from our conversation, I felt ever-so more down. I thought that if I talked to someone about it, I would feel better. But I didn't for the rest of the day. Only now do I feel a bit better.
I am not saying I regret talking to him, quite the opposite actually, but why did I feel that way?

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sue g
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posted April 30, 2005 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yang I just posted a thread about shaman healing, what type of therapies have you tried, if any? I think talking isnt enough to move the dark feeling, This woman really gets the emotion, ie anger, guilt, sadness to move around and then out of the body, and for me it works, its only since I have been seeing her that I have been able to let go of old negative patterns which can cause depression - would you give it a go and see how you feel. That is probably why the talking didnt ease it - sometimes it aint enough, love and light to you xxx

p,s when I had post natal depression writing poetry helped!!

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Yang
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posted April 30, 2005 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue G

I am debating with myself (you know what Libras are like) whether I should see a psychologist or not-but if I know myself I will probably see one.

I tried writng poetry but all that came out was crap. Doesn't work for me when I am depressed.

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wildflwrs
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posted April 30, 2005 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wildflwrs     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you felt kind of down because you opened up and felt exposed. Or you could have absorbed his energies or energies in his environment. Depression is a kind of a depressing topic, after all.

By the way....I have worked with a counselor on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy...and I would say that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
She recommended two books. One is "Feeling Good: The New Mood Therapy" by David D. Burns, M.D. (She actually met the author and has an autographed copy of his latest edition of that book. He has a new book out on self-esteem too.) The other book is a workbook titled "Mind Over Mood: Change How You Feel by Changing the Way You Think" by Dennis Greenberger Ph.D. and Christine A. Padesky, Ph.D. Anyway, I found both of those books in the library. Had to get them sent from one location to the one closest to me though. I think it made a big difference to work with a therapist on it.

I hope all goes well for you.

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sue g
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posted May 01, 2005 04:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Good for your Yang, I hope you find a supportive and wise therapist and please dont leave it as late as my Dad has (78 and just thinking of going into counselling) God bless him - good luck, sending you love xxx

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Yang
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posted May 01, 2005 05:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message

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LostInStrangeWorld
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posted May 01, 2005 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LostInStrangeWorld     Edit/Delete Message
Ditto!
Hi Yang!

Depression isn't always about what's going on in the brain. Personally I believe, as it was for me, to do with circumstances, one's environment, whether or not we feel fulfilled or empty...loneliness. Even the most popular/famous people in the world can feel lonely.

Depression can be a sickness of the soul. Try some soul-healing. Endorphins, exercise and a good diet are all very important too.

I read a book once by an author called Muz Murray, this was a very long time ago, about spirituality. When I read about 'soul-sickness', it struck a chord with me immediately; I knew that this was what I was feeling.

LOve and Light

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sue g
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posted May 01, 2005 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Well written Lost, when I was reading Yang's post the words that came into my head were "the soul is screaming out", but thought it may be a bit heavy for him - thanks for saying that, well done and love to you xxxx

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Yang
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posted May 02, 2005 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Sue G why do you think what you said in your last reply here that it might be heavy for me? Please explain

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Yang
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posted May 02, 2005 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yang     Edit/Delete Message
Guys I seriously need help!

Today I had the most terrible thought. I thought about committing suicide. BUT not to actually kill myself but to feel what it must be like to be on the edge of life. Just to get a thrill outta it.i.e to taste death.

I am booking myself to see a psychologist soon.

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wildflwrs
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posted May 02, 2005 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for wildflwrs     Edit/Delete Message
According to your belief system, practice your spiritual path....that would be my advice. I feel that it has helped me tremendously. I mean along with whatever clinical help you seek. Faith is very powerful and I would think you would be able to stave off any crisis at this point. Many blessings to you and healing love and light.

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sue g
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posted May 04, 2005 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Yang, I thought all the soul stuff might not be right for me to say to you (just being cautious), but now I know its okay to be open. Regarding the suicide thing, I understand this, Ive always pushed life to the edge and felt this way before, but am glad I didnt do it - please get help asap, you have taken the first step by thinking about it so go and heal your SOUL love to you xxxx

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