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Philbird
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posted April 22, 2005 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Some will know I have been having stomach troubles for nearly two years, with no diagnosis! Since I didn't have acid reflux, the docs didn't think I had real stomach problams. (it's just anxiety!) Yeah right, I have as much anxiety medication as I want, and believe me that wasn't the problem! (Who listens to the patient anymore?) Try this, try that! Nothing worked. Finally, finally, I had an EGD done today, and vwola! Hiatal hernia, without reflux! I'm to take Prilosec for the rest of my life!
But I'm wondering if there are any natural remedies out there? I heard cyanne pepper caps, but I'm allergic to pepper!
Any suggestions?

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Bluemoon
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posted April 22, 2005 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Phil! I also suffer from stomach problems. I am on Pepcid everyday. I can't get by with out it. THey also thought I had anxiety. My niece had a surgery for hietal hernia 3 days ago. They took small pieces of her stomach lining and put in in her esphogus. I think this is a new surgery. Good Luck to you! I hope someone comes up with some Good solutions. I will be watching this space. PS How is Jay??

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angel_of_hope
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posted April 22, 2005 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for angel_of_hope     Edit/Delete Message
Awwwwwww im sorry to here that Phil! Well glad and sad... at least you know whats going on now! some peace of mind at least.

I cant offer ya any help but I would also like to know of other options available.
I have a friend who is currently taking Prilosec for the same thing, for the rest of his life.
& I have a friend who suffers from Acid Reflux and must take Nexium for the rest of his life.

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Philbird
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posted April 22, 2005 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Of course, now I have a big hernia to go with my big overies!
Bluemoon, Jay is well, he had his surgery on his arm. I have to go for another test though. It's a test where you drink a liquid and they take pictures throughout the day to watch your food digest. She's concerned about the nausea. There will be no gall stones to pass out!

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Gia
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posted April 24, 2005 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
I'm confused Philly. Prilosec IS a reflux medication. It's classed as an anti-acid pump inhibitor. It controls the backwash of acid reaching the esophagus, before I go into details, it's proper chemical name is OMEPRAZOLE so please inform your dentist if you are having dental treatment of any kind. Also, not to be taken with iron or any of the diazepams, or if you have liver complications.

Now people with hernia experience heartburn. It can be triggered by hot spicy foods, coffee, chocolate (sorry!!!) tomato based foods and most commonly enzyme deficiences. This can also cause asthma like symptoms.

At first sign of stomach problems drink a large glass of water. Aloe Vera juice is also good. Calcium, Magnesuim, Potassium all alkalize the stomach by binding the acids. Brilliant for you, kind of does what the medication does in a way. Though you MUST be careful with dosages. Chammomile tea is also good. Do not consume carbonated drinks ever. Watch out with all citrus fruits. Eat more veggies and raw foods. Too many processed foods cause acid in the body. No microwave junk or tinned rubbish. No asprin or ibuprofern please.

There is a natural supplement that has most of what you need. It's called ACID EASE available from your natural health store.

One recent study showed that 75 percent of heartburn sufferers had hiatal hernias. Do NOT TAKE anything containg HCI HYDROCHLORIC ACID.

I hope this helps.

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Philbird
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posted April 24, 2005 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
I was able to see the pics they took of my asophogus and stomach. I didn't have reflux or heartburn, that's what has been confusing the docs. I did see the hiatus, pretty large. I did some further reading and found out you can have a hiatus hernia without reflux. I saw some acid in areas of my stomach, but very little.
So far the Prilosec is working for the bloating, however toward the evening, the nausia returns. More tests on the 5th. Thanks Gia!

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Philbird
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posted April 24, 2005 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
One of my medications is alprazolam, the other is Bupropion HCI. Are these the meds you speak of???

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Gia
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posted April 24, 2005 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Well they've given you an acid reflux medication so they must have thought you had enough acid to cause you problems later. Though the reflux into the esophagus may not have been an issue, certainly for sure the stomach acid was. I know I'm right on this so please talk to your doctor just to confirm.

Alprazolam is Xanax. It is to treat anxiety and panic attacks and it works by depressing activity in the central nervous system. It is not recommended for long term use because it's a dependence drug. Sometimes it causes depression, which is often what it is prescribed for. Brain chemicals are far from an exact science.

Please take no allergy antihistamine drugs with this medication, no cough medications, no pain killers.

Buprpion is the same as Wellbutrin.

It is also an anti anxiety and depression medication.

The problem is it can cause stomach irritation so just make sure your doctor is aware that you are taking it along with the other medications. Sometimes they need reminding.

I am frankly amazed you are prescribed those two at the same time but you must know why.

I hope this has helped you. I wish all things good and hope you feel better soon. I've lost your email address because I had a virus on my last PC and then had to buy a new one. I also changed my email adress due to finally getting DSL.

Gia


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Philbird
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posted April 24, 2005 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Gia!
I'm not a computer whiz, but I think you can ask Randall for my e mail address. It should be a Netscape address. I have an appointment with the GI Dr. in a few days, I'l ask more questions then.

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Gia
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posted April 25, 2005 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Do you remember ages ago you said drinking water made you ill? I told you then that this was symptomatic of too much acid in the body. Do you drink enough water Philly?

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Philbird
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posted April 28, 2005 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Yes! I still get nausious on the previcid at the end of the day, but not as bloated. I had a bunch of bloodwork done today.

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posted April 28, 2005 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
I missed you Phil! I was worried about you. Also, I feel your pain! I have suffered stomach problems for so long, I suppose I should be use to it. I wake up nausas everyday.

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posted April 29, 2005 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
Let me know how you are and say hi to Jay for me.

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Philbird
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posted April 29, 2005 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks All! By the way, that's Prilosec, not Previcid! D'UH!

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Philbird
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posted May 11, 2005 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Well I finally got the results from the gastric empting test. And blood work.
I have a slight case (it doesn't feel slight!) of gastric paralasys, (sp) and I'm hypoglycemic. (as well as the hiatus hernia!) The Zelnorm they gave me, gave me so much abdomanal pain, I can't take it. The Prilosec and Zantac don't work. As a matter of fact, I feel worse! So, I think I'm off to a Reiki healer. I'm giving my body a day or so off any meds in preperation for the ginger root remedy I heard of. UGH!!!!

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geminstone
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posted May 11, 2005 07:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for geminstone     Edit/Delete Message
PhilBird ~
My Dad has this same hernia and I am hypoglycemic. I know that he had had about enough of the poking and proding too, by the time they discovered the hernia. I remember having sympathy symptoms, when it would get really bad for him... Not to long after that was diagnosed, he started having trouble with his lower abdomine.... took them another year and a half of tests and, needles and, pokes, and,.... well, you know.... he was finally sent for surgury on, yet another, hernia! Anyway, he's not one to pursue alternative treatment methods so, I think he is on the Prilosec. Hope all gets back to good, very soon for you PhilBird.
Take Care

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Philbird
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posted May 12, 2005 07:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you geminstone!

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Philbird
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posted May 31, 2005 09:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Still sick! $3,000 later, they can't do anything for me. I'm still sick! I'm going for a reiki healing on the 3rd! I talked to "Molly" and she seemed to know a lot about Cancerians and stomach problems. Cross my fingers!

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posted June 02, 2005 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird, That sucks. Sending some Reiki.
I watered my plant earlier today and thought of you because I placed the pyramid you gave me next to it. Youre so special and even though we dont talk much anymore, such a good friend. I hope you feel better soon. I'm hear if you need an ear.

Love ya.

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fayte.m
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posted June 02, 2005 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
Philbird!

I have IBS...really bad. Zelnorm and Dicyclomine help a little. But not enough. Add to that the MS like neuological trouble etc.,and it is no fun. Not looking for sympathy, but I sure can understand how you feel! I hope that helps.

PS.can you eat yogurt? It helps me out with the reflux and hiatal hernia (yeah got those too...) and also sometimes simethecone will keep the burning bubbles down. And do not eat before bedtime anything rich or spicey!
That will give you a backwash that will make your esophagus more sensitive and too easily re-irritated.

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Philbird
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posted June 02, 2005 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks guys! I think of you often too 26!
Fayte, I don't have reflux, I believe the acid is staying in my stomach. I tried Zelnorm, but the abdominal cramps got intolerable! I'm having trouble finding foods that agree with me. Bread, milk, watermelon, and other bland foods agree with me, but are still taking forever to digest, even veggies! I cringe everytime it's time to eat, wondering if I will be nauseated! Right now I'm taking A high dose of Prilosec and Zantac, but it only helps a little. I just feel blah all the time.
Thanks! Mary

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Bluemoon
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posted June 02, 2005 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry about your stomach, Mary! I have long suffered with stomach problems. If I am not very careful what I eat I am sick. I have been sick to my stomach for most of the past 10 years. A doc told my my stomach is deformed. I have some wonderful photos of it. I miss chatting with you!

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Philbird
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posted June 03, 2005 11:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Bluemoon! Miss you too, but like I said, I haven't been feeling like talking. Us Cancerians and stomach problems!!!!

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Bluemoon
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posted June 03, 2005 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bluemoon     Edit/Delete Message
Just know I am here, Mary!!

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posted June 04, 2005 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Healing Light to you too fayte.

How are you feeling today Philbird? A little better I hope.

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