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Topic: Unhealthy eating habits (no one notices)
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maya-v Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: New York Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 10:37 AM
I have been in the US for a few years now and though Im amazed by the level of information people have on health and good eating habits, some things still confound me (and the "you" in these sentences is generic. I could've used "one" but it seems kinda lame)-1. Your digestive system has been building up acids all through the night and the first thing you put into it when you wake up is tarry coffee that literally burns your intestines! 2. You follow that up with high acidity combinations of various citrus juices 3. You often skip breakfast or substitute it with high sugar cereals, enriched flour pancakes, biscuits, red meat - stuff like that. 4. You spend hours making healthy, well-cooked meal, then spoil it with alcohol in the form of wine or beer 5. You know all these rumors abt a glass or two of wine or daily serving of three types of dairy products being good for you are merely propaganda by corporate america to get you to spend money on stuff that is not good for you - yet you fall for it 4. You take the worst out of every culture's cuisine and americanize it to fit your ever-growing palettes. I could think of a few more, but I think these are enough for now to start a fire in here! IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 421 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 05, 2005 10:49 AM
Yes, they are enough to start a fire.I will man the hose. Plus, though our cultures are similar, I am Canadian, so when you say 'Americanized' it doesn't apply to me... I do think that you are not talking about everyone.. all those things do not apply... I eat healthily. I also treat myself ( though I haven't in a while) I occassionally drink.(weekends) I am having a coffee right now. MOst people know nutrition.... They choose things to injest. Due to emotions or learned behaviours. There are a lot of books/media attention on a lot of healthy eating.. the body is a marvel. Give it more broad minded credit.
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maya-v Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: New York Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 10:57 AM
Your answer is relieving pix ... I feel better and I am hoping to find some more answers here.Thanks for responding, I truly appreicate it. IP: Logged |
trillian Moderator Posts: 3387 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted May 05, 2005 12:01 PM
Lots of generalizations there, maya.I find it a little disingenuous for one culture to point fingers at another. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 421 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 05, 2005 12:01 PM
Wine and Beer have compounds that ARE good for you.(*antioxidants, plus those other ones I know other people will know more than I do) Too much of anything is not good. Everything in moderation. Caffeine is also good for you.(increases metabolism, dilates blood vessels) It depends on a lot, not everything works for everybody. I'm not a baby cow, so the dairy thing is def. up for debate.... but I do love my yogurt, and the acidopholus bacteria is needed for good intestinal/reproductive health A balanced diet is a good one. Portion control, identifying emotional/habitual triggers that get us craving all those not so good things... The choice is ours.. not everyone chooses to eat things we see based upon packaging/propaganda... most people are intelligent enough to undertand the way society is swayed. Besides, there are so many varied ways of 'healthy eating', depending on who researched what and what culture you grew up in, what specific component is researched, that is is hard to amalgamate everything.. the guidelines to healthy eating should be that. Guidelines. Too many grey areas to generalize.IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 421 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 05, 2005 12:03 PM
HI TRILLIAN!!!!! We posted at the same time! IP: Logged |
maya-v Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: New York Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 12:13 PM
Thanks trillian - I know I was generalizing, that was kinda the point. And the reference was not cultural, mostly a foreigner trying to acclimatize to a different country and curious abt it. I was counting on you replying. I want more people protesting and telling me I am a biased, blind idiot who's pointing fingers. The whole thing is kinda tongue in cheek anyway. IP: Logged |
maya-v Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: New York Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 12:17 PM
Pixie - I agree with what you are saying. You see, I needed a parent's perspective on healthy eating habits and the choices that determine them. I would still like more input on the questions I raised, cause being a nervous, anxious mom my worries wont be placated with anything less than a good fight from all you guys. IP: Logged |
angel_of_hope Knowflake Posts: 513 From: Palmer, Alaska (the valley) Registered: Jul 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 01:09 PM
I drink one cup of coffee .... ok ok ok its a 16oz mug every day during the week. Weekends I hardly drink coffee, if at all. My chiropractor (whos such an awesome down-to-earth guy) says he notices the difference in my body on Monday compared to say mid week Wed. My muscles are more relaxed and not all tensed up. Which he associates with caffine. I hadnt heard this before. Besides my moring coffee, i dont eat chocolate (well hardly eva) or drink pop. So is one cup of coffee tensein my muscles up so bad that i cant be adjusted!?!!? (altough it doesnt help that i sit at a computer all day long, and that my neck muscles are working over time to support my head, which in turn causes my mupper back/shoulder muscles to tighten)He says so and advises me to give up my morning cup o joe. i have yet to do it .... and he has yet to say anything. I have begun stretching and doing various diff little exercises to loosen my upper back and its seemed to help. but no way man am i giving up my coffee! Grrrrrr!IP: Logged |
wildflwrs Knowflake Posts: 332 From: Albuquerque Registered: Oct 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 01:12 PM
Yeah, the abbreviation for the American diet is SAD--Standard American Diet. The emphasis on refined carbohydrates contributes to depression, lethargy, and a lack of concentration. We hear blurbs on the news about diet and exercise and the changes we need to make....but the marketing strategies of fast food, junk food, and national restaurant chains are overpowering. I really believe that it takes spiritual power or some kind of clinical help to overcome all the influences that cause us to stay stuck in bad habits. Have you ever noticed how many pizza commercials are aired during the news hour? As they say, old habits die hard. IP: Logged |
trillian Moderator Posts: 3387 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted May 05, 2005 03:27 PM
Pixie maya, as pixie said, the body seems to be able to adapt to many things. You want to make the healthiest choices? Stay out of the grocery store and shop organic markets. By only organic, raw dairy. If you eat meat/fowl, buy free-range, and be sure the animals were not fed antibiotics and growth hormones. Throw away your microwave, and if you keep it, never cook anything with plastic. In fact, never use plastic at all. Beer and wine? I wouldn't worry about them in moderation, but don't even think about white sugar and white flour. And stay away from anything in a can. There are nasty chemicals used on the cans themselves. Alkalize your body...which means eating mostly raw, organic foods. But watch out for peanuts and raisins, as they are often full of molds. Absolutely no artificial sweeteners or hydrogenated oils. No soy, and no flouride. The list goes on and on, till your head spins. Read through the subjects here at LL. Do some research. I've been reading books on this subject for years, and while there is some information that remains in dispute, there are some general truths. Here's an interesting site: http://www.westonaprice.org/splash_2.htm Read through Dr. Mercola's website. He's not my favorite, but there is valuable information available on his site. http://www.mercola.com/
As Gia likes to say, most things in moderation probably won't hurt you. IP: Logged |
maya-v Knowflake Posts: 1384 From: New York Registered: Dec 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 03:34 PM
Thanks trillian - I got most of that covered except for the soy - I have soymilk, the unsweetened Silk one and thats abt it though. And no, I dont particularly like raisins, I go with dry figs and dates And yeah, Im with you - anything processed (like sugar, flour, coffee, tea etc) is out, organic is in - for poultry, produce etc. I dont particularly use dairy and get my vitamins from fresh veggie juice. Yeah, Im a health freak too. Thanks for the website, I will check it out. Right now I am trying Dr. Ron Kennedy's medical library website. Advice coming froma 70 year old guy who loks forty would always make sense to me. And yeah, I adore physical fitness, I love my anaerobic - aerobic routine, even if I dont look like a supermodel, I feel so strong everytime I work out. I now have to find a way to imbibe healthy habits in my son so that he is ready to dodge the junk food mine field in school!
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pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 421 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted May 05, 2005 03:56 PM
Good luck with that.I was the kid coming to school with a brown paper bag lunch, complete with sesame snaps, (they have vanilla ones nowadays!!) Brown bread.. sometimes homemade.. homemade yogurt, fruit juice, and dried fruit ( we called it 'fridge cancy')and maybe apples or nuts. *after my breakfast of bran buds* I longed to be a twinkie eater. I longed for the 'wondrous' bread that came in the multi coloured balls bag.... I longed to be normal. No one would 'swap' with me. I eat healthy still, but I am a big fan of junk food.. big fan of emotional eating... chocolate and yummy sugar laden stuff. My mom wasn't big on junk. Careful with rebeliousness.... My husband got anything he wanted.. and he usually chooses now, to not have any sweets.. He honestly doesn't care. So... definately keep the rule of moderation, and read up!!!! IP: Logged |
Saffron Knowflake Posts: 440 From: Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 05, 2005 07:35 PM
hi maya ~you pegged me totally. i have loads of studying healthy nutrition, but i don't let it have any impact on my diet whatsoever! not really....but i have a long way to go before following what i would consider an adequate nutrition regimen. i think you saw my life with this post! i am veggie, and drink no alcohol, and make a modest effort to avoid soda, but i rely much too much on tablet vitamin/mineral supplements. i'd like to instill healthier eating in my son -- like you -- but i also want him not to have any hang-ups about food. i'd like food to be celebratory, not a dismal battle of wills. i think much of my food-related/health problems stem from an emotionally unhealthy approach to food when i was a child. i do believe my parents' not allowing soda and too much junk food had a good effect on my developmental years...which i think is very important too. so it's a balance, i suppose, that i must find...i'm beginning to believe it's the milieu with which you surround yourself. i keep thinking that if i could find a group of people...parents and kids...who consciously adhere to healthy eating, that we could adapt much more easily. i hope you find a way to raise your diets to a pristine level, and have fun doing it. it's surely an art! please keep everyone informed of your progress...i'd like to know what works for you. good topic! IP: Logged |
Saffron Knowflake Posts: 440 From: Registered: Sep 2004
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posted May 11, 2005 12:45 AM
You know all these rumors abt a glass or two of wine or daily serving of three types of dairy products being good for you are merely propaganda by corporate america to get you to spend money on stuff that is not good for you - yet you fall for it...haha...here's another one...exactly to what you're referring: quote: TUESDAY, May 10 (HealthDay News) -- In a finding that runs counter to conventional wisdom, researchers have found that consuming moderate amounts of alcohol -- about one drink a day -- may prevent kidney function decline in men. Researchers at Brigham and Women's Hospital, in Boston, stressed, however, that the finding does not mean individuals should take up drinking -- especially heavy drinking -- as a means of protecting their kidneys.In their study, published in the May 9 issue of the Archives of Internal Medicine, the researchers examined patient blood samples and questionnaires collected from more than 11,000 men enrolled in the ongoing Physicians' Health Study. They found that men who consumed at least seven drinks per week were at a 30 percent lower risk of elevated levels of a compound called creatinine in the blood, compared to men who had one or no drinks per week. High blood creatinine levels are a strong indiator of kidney dysfunction. "In previous studies, moderate alcohol consumption has been consistently associated with beneficial health effects on cardiovascular disease, however, the association between alcohol consumption and renal dysfunction was less clear, and most studies found a harmful effect on the kidneys," Dr. Tobias Kurth, a researcher in the Division of Aging at Brigham and Women's Hospital, said in a prepared statement. "This is the first study to show a consistent reduction in the risk of chronic kidney disease with light to moderate drinking. Given the new findings that traditional cardiovascular risk factors are associated with kidney disease, the data is not surprising. This study may be broadening our knowledge of alcohol and disease prevention," Kurth said. He noted this study only included data from healthy men and that more research is needed in this area to confirm the findings, especially for women and sicker individuals.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/hsn/20050510/hl_hsn/adrinkadaymayhelpprotectkidneys for all those who needed additional justification... IP: Logged |
Irish Eyes Knowflake Posts: 363 From: PA,USA Registered: Apr 2004
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posted May 14, 2005 11:52 PM
I just have to give my two cents here...It is hard to eat right when everywhere you look you see junk food! It's even harder to make your kids eat well. I got a health wake up call 2 years ago when I was found to have insulin resistance and now it has turned into diabetes. I was never one to eat a bunch of junk...this was all genetic. Now that I have to watch what I eat and be a "good girl". I find it odd that people I know want me to "cheat" on my diet that keeps my blood sugar in check. I guess that most people don't realize that the way I have to eat is not only better for me but the food tastes better! And there you have it...my two cents! IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion Knowflake Posts: 204 From: California Registered: May 2005
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posted June 18, 2005 12:54 PM
They say coffee in moderation is actually good for you. I'm sure most of you already know this..but still. It helps bowel movements for some and it prevents cancer, studies have shown.xoxo Esther IP: Logged |
DayDreamer Knowflake Posts: 821 From: Registered: Jul 2003
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posted June 19, 2005 06:52 PM
I am guilty of some bad eating habits. For one I'm always running late in the morning so I barely ever eat breakfast. Sometimes I try to eat on the run. But I think there is some good to my eating style. I don't like eating full meals, my stomach actually can't handle it, and I easily get drowsy. And I don't think our stomaches and digestion system are meant for it. So I snack constantly through out the day...eating small portions about 10 times a day. Some of the snacks I choose though have to go. I really do need to cut sugar out of my diet! When I'm stressed especially...it makes you feel better...but then you get caught in that vicious cycle of highs and lows in no time, and become dependent on it. Sugar is a drug! Some foods leave me feeling bloated but I'm not exactly sure what they are yet...I think milk is one of them. When I was in highschool I went to a few homeopathic practitioners and they all told me to get off of wheat, milk and sugar. Really difficult when that's the basis of the North American diet. IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus Knowflake Posts: 2174 From: anywhere but lindaland Registered: Oct 2004
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posted June 20, 2005 12:09 AM
1. My digestive system builds up acids all through the night and the first thing that occurs in the morning is something you don't want to know anything about 2. I can't drink OJ in the morning or I throw up from the added acidity that didn't make it out of my body the first time 3. After these first 2 ordeals I wind up not feeling right so I try to eat a fibery cereal only to have to do my duty half an hour later. 4. Ew alcohol! 5. Ew dairy! Ew wine! 4. I take whatever's tasty out of every cuisine Food is not very fun for me lately, most of it makes me sick in some form or just feel horrible. I ate very terribly today, and have the worst burning feeling ever and quite a bit of gas. I'm sure you all wanted to know. IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion Knowflake Posts: 204 From: California Registered: May 2005
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posted June 20, 2005 12:22 AM
VTT,why don't you try some grapefruit in the morning, would that be too acidic as well? I don't know..but it helps blood circulation and (bowel movements) and helps you feel better. drink lots of water and hope you feel better. xoxo Esther IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus Knowflake Posts: 2174 From: anywhere but lindaland Registered: Oct 2004
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posted June 20, 2005 12:25 AM
Grapefruit in the morning would feel like a thousand fiery swords ripping through my esophagus I should probably eat bread or crackers in the morning, something to soak up all that nasty acid! yuck! IP: Logged |
taurean_scorpion Knowflake Posts: 204 From: California Registered: May 2005
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posted June 20, 2005 12:27 AM
crackers? *gasps* that doesn't sound too healthy!IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus Knowflake Posts: 2174 From: anywhere but lindaland Registered: Oct 2004
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posted June 20, 2005 07:56 AM
Oh god! Yes! Carbs are sooooo terrible!This is the thread of sweeping generalizations from hell. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 421 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted June 20, 2005 08:01 AM
Ha ha.. I was going to weigh in ( pun?) and say depending upon the type of cracker.... There are many multi grain/whole wheat crackers, which are lighter in taste ( toasty) friggin' good, and actually give you fiber, instead of the paste tasting, bland saltines people usually think of..... There are so many options! Carbs aren't the enemy.IP: Logged |
virgotaurustaurus Knowflake Posts: 2174 From: anywhere but lindaland Registered: Oct 2004
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posted June 20, 2005 08:05 AM
I have to say, Wheatables are freakin AMAZING!!!!I was being sarcastic about the carbs thing IP: Logged |