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moonmaiden
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From: sydney,n.s.w.Australia
Registered: May 2003

posted May 12, 2005 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message
My 21 year old sagitarius brother has never had a job...he sleeps all day and is up all night with his friends.He doesnt do drugs and rarely drinks...he is a very witty,compasionate and patient human being but i feel he has no vision and motivation for wat he wants from his life. Ive used all my cancerian intuition to try and help him but my taurean father,gemini mother and i cannot seem to help him.I AM HOPING THAT ONE OF YOU(WHO ARE ALL SO ENLIGHTENED)MAY HELP ME.Thank you from the bottom of my heart.MM.XXXXX
HIS D.O.B IS:
27TH November,1984, Perth, Australia.

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trillian
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posted May 12, 2005 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
The one thing I have learned in life is that you cannot make anyone do anything s/he doesn't want to do.

My advice: let go. There is nothing you can do but love and accept him for who he is. He will find his way in his own time.

Change your perspective, and you will change the world.

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sue g
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posted May 12, 2005 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
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pixelpixie
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posted May 12, 2005 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Tripa-ditto!

He is waiting for inspiration, but once he gets it, Sagittarian gusto will not have him looking back.

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zoso
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From: Nevada
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posted May 14, 2005 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message
He's only 21.

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iAmThat
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From: Edison, NJ, USA
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posted May 15, 2005 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Talk to him about what he likes (his addictions that you are oblivious of).

If its bad ask him if you can join in? He will say no and then start questioning his own. In this case, he ventures at nights, right? Make him believe you are doing the same. Play his own game without falling in yourself. Its hard. If you are afraid, pray to God to send people in his life that would touch his soul.

He has much to learn since he is only 21. If I was you, I would start planting the words of wisdom, reasoning and purpose of life. Be persistent, it will reap returns sooner or later.

You seem like a loving sister

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moonmaiden
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From: sydney,n.s.w.Australia
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posted May 16, 2005 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonmaiden     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you allfor all your beautiful words...i know he is only 21,that is young and i know that 'one day' he'll find his way but the reality of the moment is harder to face; please try to put yourself in my positioon - i get up in the morning to go to uni/work or both at say 9... come home round 2 for lunch...he is still in bed! Hey im a cancer,dont get me wrong i love a` sleep in and staying home but everyday in bed all day... this has been going on since 2003...yes he's young but two consecutive years of bed and no job to me is something more than 'just finding his way.
Both Bruce Lee and Jimi Hendrix share his birthday so i know he has the potential for greatness but what can you say to someeone to inspire them to see that who they are is already so beautiful??
Sorry im ramblng...(Sighs deeply)i dont know... if i leave it he continues to waste away,if i speak up am i being pushy??...please pray that he finds his calling.I thank you with all my heart.MM.

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zoso
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posted May 16, 2005 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zoso     Edit/Delete Message
Some people just have different sleeping cylces. Some are early birds, and others (like me) need to stay up very late in the early morning hours and sleep well past noon. I can't function otherwise. Like today, I'm up early for work and it will mess up my next day or so until I can get back on my regular cylcle.

If his Saturn is aspected just so, he may "find his calling" later in life.

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iAmThat
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posted May 17, 2005 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Sleeping in day is bad for health even though its for a few minutes. When we sleep tremendous amounts of energy is radiated from the body, its tough to dissipate that energy because of the Sun.


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LeoSweetHeart
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From: California, USA
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posted May 18, 2005 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeoSweetHeart     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Trillian and others when they say to be encouraging of him and don't give up or show him you disapprove of him to much because it will push him further away and leave him with even less motivation to be apart of the family.

Because this has been happenening for two years, I don't get the feeling that he feels ashamed about it. Its probably considered normal among his group of friends, since he sees them when he's up all night. Naturally if your up all night partying or what not, you'll be tired the next day. It does seem like he has a major lack of motivation to function like most people, but I would look at his social group's influence and his perspective before seeing his decision as completely strange. If his peers or as in psychology they say "deviant subculture" thinks this lifestyle is acceptable, then he will be less likely to think he's "deviant". Thats why its so important that you and your family don't turn your backs on him, as he will slip further and further away if you do. I would just support him and maybe give some unintrusive advice to him every once in a while, to give him things to think about. I'm sorry you have to see him just sleeping his life away, I know that must be hard as his sister, but I'm sure in time he will start making gradual changes to get back in the flow of the things. Maybe he justs needs to get the confidence to. I'll send him positive vibes and pray for him.


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26taurus
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posted May 18, 2005 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry to hear about your brother moonmaiden. I wish him the best.

It could be worse. I have a double Sag/Leo rising brother who is a major drug addict, cant keep a job, convicted felon by age 18 and will probably be dead in a year of two. He's back in jail now, for dealing heroin and some other things. He just cant seem to clean up his act. Everyone is on their own path. Sometimes other people's paths hurt.

Send him your unconditional love. It's all you can do. It is not for you to decide how he should live his life.

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26taurus
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posted May 18, 2005 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sorry if that seemed harsh. But that situation is a deep wound with me. If you know anything about astrology, you could clearly see it in my chart. Chiron is conj. Merc in the third, among some other things. I hope your brother turns around and pulls himself up from the depths. It's very hard to watch your sibling slink down and there is nothing you can do for them. I read once that losing a sibling can be worse than losing any other kind of relative and that it's like losing one of your own limbs. I find that to be very true. I hope he pulls out of it. From one sister to another, I know how hard it can be to watch that.

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