posted May 16, 2005 12:17 PM         

But, my mom is almost bi-polar. I think she is, but hasn't been diagnosed. Since she's been on Prozak, she's been 100 times better at controlling her emotions. I never thought I was like her, but the contrast between us since she's been on it is striking. She thinks I should go on it, too.

I get very irritated at times and the anger is quick to rise. I also have a very hard time detaching from those angry feelings and it can explode easily. Especially during PMS, it's almost like I go crazy for a few weeks. My bf is used to it and we often laugh about it, only I'm not thinking its very funny. I can't shut it off during those times, even when I recognize what it going on. It's all very frustrating.

I'm concerned about going on Prozak because I don't want it to interfere with any intuitive feelings. Does anyone have an opinion on this? Does the medication make it better or worse? It seems to make my mom's life so much better and manageable.

posted May 16, 2005 01:25 PM         

i know numerous men, successful in their careers, business, etc., who often fit zoso's description:

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[they] get very irritated at times and the anger is quick to rise. [they] also have a very hard time detaching from those angry feelings and it can explode easily.

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why is it this is not 'abnormal' for them...why is it simply their 'personality', part of what makes them 'successful' and 'strong' and 'proactive'?

why does no one ever suggest they need to begin using prozac, or emotion-numbing drugs to change their personalities?

posted May 16, 2005 04:17 PM         

The billion dollar drug companies would love nothing more than a Prozac Nation, where we all walk around stupified, with our emotions numb and our wallets beholden to them.

Don't think that doctors don't profit from taking the lazy way out and prescribing these drugs.

There are so many things we can do to achieve better balance in our lives, but we are too lazy to do them. We don't want to change our eating habits, our exercise habits, etc. We don't want to take the time to meditate and find our inner centers.

Consider a body cleanse and detox. Consider removing meat from your diet (you are eating traumatized flesh that has been riddled with drugs, hormones and antibiotics!) and eating only raw, unpastuerized dairy (again, because of the hormones added to dairy).
Consider colon cleanses. Consider learning to meditate. Consider anger management classes. Do you ingest any artificial sweeteners? Get rid of them, completely.

REconsider drugs. And please, do a lot of research before you decide to take any of them.
http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/newsl/prozac.html

http://www.defend-net.com/mood/FMMStories.html

http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/newsl/prozac.html
http://www.pnc.com.au/~cafmr/newsl/prozac.html

posted May 16, 2005 04:51 PM         

Mostly, I get seriously depressed around November and it lasts until the weather warms up. I dread the winter. It's been a pattern that I've recognized where as soon as the cold sets in, I get sad and dreary. I've ruined friendships and relationships during these times because I can't seem to pull myself out of the slump. No one wants to deal with me when I'm like that and I wish I were someone else during those times, too.

The only other times I start feelings crazy and very irritable is around PMS, which doesn't seem so bad except that the onset can be anywhere from one to two weeks. That leaves only about two and a half weeks out of the month where I'm "normal." Thirteen's meds seem to be directed at PMS, so I'll ask the doctor about that.

Other than that, I don't like getting so angry about things that I know I shouldn't. It just seems like it rises so quickly! I'm a passionate person, but I also get offended easily and am quick to retaliate. My mom is doing great on her meds. I've noticed such a change in her that my reactions compared are more irritable and explosive.

I don't want to dull myself to the point of complacency. I don't want to be "comfortably numb" about situations where I should change the things I need to. Trillion--I have cut out meats from my diet and it has improved my guilts. Thank you Philbird for your compassion--I will dive deeper in this internal struggle before taking the meds.

posted May 16, 2005 08:34 PM         

i didn't mean to say that the success of these men was a result of this behavior, just that as a component of their personalities, it seemed accepted as 'normal' behavior.

hi Trillian...your perspective here is refreshing and insightful as ever...i'd look for alternatives to drugs if at all possible.

flower essences can work wonders.

posted May 17, 2005 08:35 AM         

Flower essences are definitely worth looking into. And I'd also try some organic St. John's Wort. It's another herb that's gotten a bad rap in studies sponsored by drug companies.

In winter, there are lamps that can mimic the power of the sun, which can help with seasonal depression.

Remember, drug companies do not want you to be well. They are not benevolent. They are a greed industry; they want you to be unwell and addicted to their drugs, either physically or psychologically.

posted May 17, 2005 11:56 AM         

Calm down.

I stand by all I said. And I said it a lot more nicely and informatively than you.
Be as offended as you like. It won't change the way the world works.

posted May 17, 2005 12:15 PM         

Not one that alleviates symptoms or makes you feel well for awhile, but that cures you. When you're done taking it for a finite period of time, you're cured and never need the drug again.

posted May 17, 2005 01:17 PM         

I am sorry you have felt like commiting suicide, and since this seems to bring you anguish, I hope this never returns. But again, there are those whose desire to die becomes worse using drugs. Not just my opinion; read through some of the threads I posted. .

I am not comparing drugs for cancer with drugs for depression. The correlation, is that none of them cure us. If we stop taking them, the symptoms return. My point being, that there is far more money for the medical and drug industry if we are not cured.

As for depression drugs, there is a lot of data about those whose symptoms were made worse when using them.

posted May 17, 2005 03:44 PM         

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Dr. Mercola's Comment:

News like this just strengthens my resolve to make my vision a reality. By exposing the dishonorable motives -- usually greed -- that form the basis of the current establishment's methods, I hope to help eliminate some of the most treacherous barriers on your journey to optimal health.

The FDA has released a suicide precaution for antidepressants. Further, it has finally forced the drug companies to include this devastating side effect on their label.

The FDA previously issued a caution on using antidepressants in children, but the warnings on drug labels go significantly further.

Most of antidepressants are known to affect the brain chemical serotonin, which helps regulate mood, but although antidepressants fill an important niche, they do not in any way, shape or form treat the cause of the problem.

That is why I believe it is important for children to approach alternatives to antidepressants:

Decreasing TV watching
Exercise
Optimal levels of cod liver oil
Does this mean that antidepressants don't work? Absolutely not, but in the vast majority of cases it may be that a benefit is felt because the person taking the pill believes that the pill will heal their depression.

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Antidepressants and Suicide in Children: Why Did the Warnings Take so Long?

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