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Topic: Trillian... whats the deal with "Splenda"
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beebuddy Knowflake Posts: 311 From: illinois Registered: Apr 2005
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posted August 11, 2005 01:20 AM
Have you heard anything nasty about it? I tried it a few times and it seems to have less of a negative effect on the body. It also claims to be "all natural". But naturally, it can't be trusted yet. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1200 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 11, 2005 08:56 AM
I'm interested in hearing about this as well!!!!!IP: Logged |
trillian Moderator Posts: 3522 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted August 11, 2005 09:30 AM
Oh, beebuddy, I'm sorry but no, sucralose (Splenda) is nasty stuff that no one should be consuming. The following quotes are from sites I visit regularly. I'm sure there are sites out there proclaiming that artificial sweeteners are safe, but...I think they're poison. Long, slow poison (though some people have immediate reactions). I'm not a fan of Bill O'Reilly, but he says that soda and its sweeteners are the new crack. I tend to agree.*sigh* I always seem to be the bearer of bad news. http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/2/splenda_marketing.htm He has several articles on Splenda, but here is an excerpt: quote: Many people have been misguided into believing Splenda, or sucralose, is a healthy alternative to sugar. They are just not aware of some of the questionable science that went into the marketing of this product. There are an amazing number of similarities to a previous harmful artificial sweetener, Nutrasweet. The problem: Deceitful marketing ploys are working. However, the truth is there is no "magic" alternative to sugar when it comes to sweeteners. You simply cannot have your cake and eat it too when it comes to this area. Can You Handle The Truth About Splenda? So if you are among those who continue to use Splenda because you think it is a safe alternative to sugar or other artificial sweeteners, then I am about to give you a rude awakening. This artificial sweetener is not natural at all. Although they start with a sugar molecule they add chlorine molecules do it. This is a similar chemical in many respects to pesticides like DDT, and no one can even guess the long term consequences of ingesting this substance over many years. Research in animals provides us with some concerns at it has already shown that consuming sucralose comes hand-in-hand with a plethora of health problems: Shrunken thymus glands (up to 40 percent shrinkage) Enlarged liver and kidneys Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus Reduced growth rate Decreased red blood cell count Extension of the pregnancy period Aborted pregnancy Diarrhea The most revealing and powerful way to learn the treacherous truth about Splenda is to read someone's personal experience with it. Nearly every month we receive a report from someone who has had an adverse reaction to Splenda, and after reading just a few of the submitted testimonials you won't even want to look at Splenda again. Additionally, eating too much real sugar will also adversely affect your health, as it will cause your insulin level to rise and this is associated with a host of health problems. Therefore, the best option for your health is to radically reduce the sugar and sweets in your diet. Amazingly, over time your desire for them will dramatically decrease once you normalize your insulin levels. Try avoiding sugar for even a week, and then go back and taste a sugary item you used to love. You'll be amazed at how overpoweringly sweet it will taste.
Here's some more: http://www.westonaprice.org/modernfood/sugarfree_blues.html
quote: It is not only diabetics who need worry about the safety of sucralose. Research conducted with rats, mice and rabbits has shown that sucralose consumption can cause shrinking of the thymus gland (up to 40 percent shrinkage), enlargement of the liver and kidneys, atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus, increased cecal weight, reduced bodily growth rate, decreased red blood cell count, hyperplasia of the pelvis, extension of gestational periods in pregnancy, decreased fetal body weights and placental weights, and diarrhea. According to the FDA’s “Final Rule” report on sucralose, it was considered to be “weakly mutagenic in a mouse lymphoma mutation assay.”75 The reason for this host of side effects is not fully understood. Many detractors have raised concerns due to the fact that sucralose is a chlorinated molecule. Chlorinated molecules, which are used as the basis for pesticides such as DDT, tend to accumulate in body tissues. Johnson & Johnson maintains that sucralose passes through the digestive system without any absorption or metabolization, but the FDA’s own research has shown that 11 to 27 percent of sucralose is absorbed in humans, while the rest is excreted unchanged in the feces. Tests performed by the Japanese Food Sanitation Council have found that as much as 40 percent of ingested sucralose is absorbed. To further dispute the manufacturer’s claims, research indicates that about 20 to 30 percent of the absorbed sucralose is metabolized. Both the metabolites and unchanged absorbed sucralose are excreted in urine, but some absorbed sucralose has been found to concentrate in the liver, kidney and gastrointestinal tract.76 Not only does sucralose break down within the digestive system, but, as the FDA notes, “[it] may hydrolyze in some food products…[and] the resulting hydrolysis products may also be ingested by the consumer.” Prolonged storage, particularly at high temperatures and low pH, causes sucralose to break down into other chemicals, including 4-chloro-4-deoxy-galactose, 1,6-dichloro-1,6-dideoxy-fructose and 1,6-dichlorofructose, none of which has ever specifically been tested in terms of safety for human ingestion. Additionally, as the FDA again acknowledges, sucralose may contain up to 2 percent of various impurities, such as heavy metals, arsenic, triphenilphosphine oxide, methanol, chlorinated disaccharides and chlorinated monosaccharides. Even if these “impurities” are within existing manufacturing guidelines, they are still all potentially dangerous to human health.77 Sucralose production and consumption may also pose a threat to the environment in general. To quote from Dr. Joseph Mercola’s website (www.mercola.com/2000/dec/3/sucralose_dangers.htm): “Although sucralose is being flushed down toilets [after human excretion]. . . , what happens to it next is simply a matter for speculation. I know of no studies showing what happens to the chemical when the raw sewage is treated and then released back into the environment. Does it remain stabile or react with other substances to form new compounds? Is the sucralose or any resulting chemicals safe for the environment? How will this chemical affect aquatic life such as fish, as well as other animals? Will sucralose begin to appear in our water supplies, just as some drugs [such as antibiotics] are beginning to be found? . . . [Ultimately] the ecological impact of this new chemical being introduced into the environment is unknown.”
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Philbird Moderator Posts: 2967 From: Here, there and everywhere. Registered: Jun 2004
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posted August 11, 2005 09:31 AM
Hey guys. "Stevia" is all natural. It comes from the leaves of a stevia plant. Very sweet! I use this... now. To me it has an after taste, but so do the artificial sweetners. It has only two ingrediants, stevia extract and grapefruit seed extract.IP: Logged |
trillian Moderator Posts: 3522 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted August 11, 2005 09:49 AM
I use stevia, too Philly, it's good stuff!Hi pixie! IP: Logged |
Nephthys Moderator Posts: 2022 From: California Registered: Oct 2001
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posted August 11, 2005 11:21 AM
I have been using Stevia Plus, also, every day now!!! I want to bake with it, but it's confusing how much to use.......Anyhow, I only notice an aftertaste if I use too much of it. IP: Logged |
beebuddy Knowflake Posts: 311 From: illinois Registered: Apr 2005
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posted August 11, 2005 11:43 AM
Damn, i figured it was nasty stuff. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1200 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 11, 2005 03:23 PM
I grabbed some stevia, and blech. I tried to convince myself it was in my head.. but realy, it was in my taste buds. I'll endeavor to try again.. maybe it was only that particular batch?Hi Trillian!
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beebuddy Knowflake Posts: 311 From: illinois Registered: Apr 2005
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posted August 11, 2005 04:09 PM
No pixie, stevia actually tastes that bad. IP: Logged |
Sheaa Olein Moderator Posts: 2380 From: Laaandon Registered: Jul 2004
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posted August 11, 2005 06:15 PM
and I've been using Splenda all this time??Thanks Trillian & beebuddy for bringing this up Stevia must be a US product then? IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1200 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 12, 2005 02:00 AM
Not only, as I can get it in Canada.....It's at health food stores, and sometimes progressive Pharmacies.. or.. 'apothacaries' heehee Oh! and Hi beautiful Sheaa!!! IP: Logged |
Sheaa Olein Moderator Posts: 2380 From: Laaandon Registered: Jul 2004
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posted August 12, 2005 12:01 PM
Hellooo you pulchritudinous lady New word I learnt recently, good huh? This is my only post for the day, had a busy one, have a lovely weekend hon IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1200 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted August 12, 2005 08:31 PM
Awwwww. thanks for only posting to me. Hey.. now I have to look up what pulchritudinous means. It sounds dirty.IP: Logged |
wildflwrs Knowflake Posts: 461 From: Albuquerque Registered: Oct 2004
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posted August 12, 2005 11:17 PM
Anybody know how stevia compares calorie-wise? And would it spoil the taste of a cup of tea? IP: Logged |
trillian Moderator Posts: 3522 From: The Boundless Registered: Mar 2003
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posted August 13, 2005 10:16 AM
Stevia is calorie-free. I like it, but if I use too much it does have a slight aftertasted.Your other safe bet is raw sugar or honey. ------------------ The less I seek my source for some definitive, the closer I am to fine. -Indigo Girls IP: Logged |
wildflwrs Knowflake Posts: 461 From: Albuquerque Registered: Oct 2004
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posted August 13, 2005 06:12 PM
Thanks. I use honey in my tea now....but I think I'll try stevia....see how it goes. IP: Logged |
Philbird Moderator Posts: 2967 From: Here, there and everywhere. Registered: Jun 2004
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posted August 14, 2005 12:03 PM
It tasted OK in my lemonade, but in my coffee, BLECH!IP: Logged |