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AcousticGod
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posted October 25, 2005 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
This has been happening awhile, and it may be a matter of stress. It happens mostly when I'm trying to get to sleep.

I lay there, and I can feel my heart beating, and it scares me, which causes my heart to beat faster sometimes, which scares me more. I sometimes think that my heart is just going to stop, which really scares me, because I don't want a thought like that to take root.

Another thing that sometimes happens is I'll stop breathing for a slightly prolonged moment for no reason. When my body remembers to start up again, which is never a long time it just kind of jolts me.

Anyone know anything about this? I can come up with possibilities, but I'm not sure what to blame this on. Could be stress, sleep, caffeine (though I do try to be really good at night), or exercise. I should probably try all of these as remedies. I'm just uninsured at the moment, so I can't go quell my fears at the doctor unfortunately.

(By the way, I was kept up an extra hour last night trying to calm myself down.)

Sue,

In that exercise you gave to sVirgo, where is your heart chakra that you put your hand on?

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lotusheartone
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posted October 25, 2005 01:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Acoustic God

it's a form of a panic disorder, that many I know are experiencing
including my daughter
to the point that she stopped breathing, lips blue, etc.
Do not use med's, very bad experience

we must learn what works to calm us down
when this starts to happen, before it gets out of control
do something, get on the computer
do a cross word puzzle
yes, find out from Sue, what techniques to use.

Many are being accelerated, do you hear a resonating in your left ear?
this can cause nausea, and panic disorders
as if you are out of control
it will become easier to deal with
I hope this helps

my daughter has completely recovered
it wasn't easy, but it can be done

Love and Light to YOU

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trillian
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posted October 25, 2005 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Try some of the Bach Rescue Remedy. It's available at most health food stores, and it's wonderful for anyone having any sort of anxiety.

There are several strings here at LL that will tell you more about the Bach Flower Essences.

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sue g
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posted October 25, 2005 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi AG

Trillian took the words outta my mouth - Rescue Remedy is excellent.

My hubbie used to suffer from this and I have just asked for his adivce. He says....get up, drink a pint of water, and the immediate effects should go. Take your mind of the heartbeat...maybe listen to music or watch tv and then go back to bed when you are really tired....he just said keep drinking water.

My suggestion AG is to breathe deeply....right hand on the heart chakra and left hand on the solar plexus. Breathe in slowly and hold for 10 if you can....then exhale for 10 seconds if you can....do this as many times as you can.....the breathing should be slow and deliberate!

And then pray for help......always helps for me.

Would you like me to send some reiki for you....and would you mind if I used your photo in msn for this?

Love to you....dont worry....you will be fine...

xxx

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AcousticGod
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posted October 25, 2005 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Yes please (Send the Reiki)!

Where's the heart chakra?

Fortunately we had a power outtage at work today, so I got sent home early. I'm going to take a nap soon. I think that will help....as long as I can get to sleep.

Thank you, Sue. I you!

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AcousticGod
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posted October 25, 2005 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, and I looked for the Bach Rescue Remedy at a couple places earlier, but didn't find it.

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artlovesdawn
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posted October 25, 2005 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for artlovesdawn     Edit/Delete Message


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BlueRoamer
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posted October 25, 2005 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueRoamer     Edit/Delete Message
Panicing is become more and more often in today's society, I'd like to see a comparison done between the US and other countries in rates of diagnosed panic disorder.

I have panics too I've had them for a year, they're not fun. The most important thing is knowing that you're not going crazy/ and you aren't going to die. This site helped me. http://www.pe2000.com/pan-act.htm


You have to realize thats its a mistimed release of adrenaline, and that it will pass within a few minutes. My best resulsts have been from just comlpetely relaxing all my muscles, breathing OUT very slowly, and telling myself its going to pass very soon.

I'm not sure you want to put your hand on your heart, making yourself more aware of the physiological symptoms may increase your panic. You want to ignore your body as much as possible and focus on something else.


OH! And rigorous aerobic exercise is EXTREMELY effective! It's mandatory. Exercising depletes your adrenaline reserves, so you'll be less likely to panic.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted October 26, 2005 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
Acoustic,

Just to get yourself through the moment, which can be very scary in itself until it passes, try a very basic yoga practice and breathe. Concentrate on the actual taking a breath in and letting it out, focusing on the complete cycle. Just breathe naturally, but the important thing is to focus on taking the breath completely in and then letting it out completely. Let it relax you and do nothing else except breathe.

My yoga instructor is very good, my mind is very active and takes nothing at all for it to race around various useless thoughts, wasting energy. Breathing and staying centered in the moment helps us in every situation in life to stay calm no matter what is happening and go from there.

I've also heard good things about Rescue Remedy. Let us know how you're doing!

kisses!
Laura

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AcousticGod
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posted October 26, 2005 12:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks everyone!

I really wouldn't have guessed that diagnosis, but I suppose it makes sense and is correct.

I am in a very stressful point in my life at the moment having caused an accident (No injuries) with implications for not only myself, but for my employer as well.

I appreciate all the help.

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fayte.m
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posted October 26, 2005 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for fayte.m     Edit/Delete Message
AG
I too have had these...
Will e-mail you about things I have done that helped...and some reasons I had them.
Maybe I can help.
love
fayte

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sue g
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posted October 26, 2005 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
AG

Your heart chakra is abve your left breast.....by doing the breathing,it send energy into the heart, thus balancing out any irregularities.....it has really worked for me and others......good luck....

Will send reiki later today....

Love

Sue xxx

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Lialei
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posted October 26, 2005 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
Acoustic, please check out this link for Sleep Apnea. Gaps in breathing while sleeping is one of the major symptoms.
Well, couldn't hurt to check it out and possibly go see a doctor about it. Sounds pretty frightening an experience for you!

http://www.stanford.edu/~dement/apnea.html

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sue g
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posted October 26, 2005 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry AG...I looked for yer photo on MSN to send the reikie but couldnt find it.....would you let me know where?

I spoke to my hubbie again and he said he used to get it a lot when he was stressed, but not now. I do the reiki on him often....and it works.

Oh yeah, if that dont work....do take Lia's advice....never can be too careful......how are you Lia.....hope life is treating you well girl?

Later

love

Sue xx

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AcousticGod
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posted October 26, 2005 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Sue,

You can look at pictures one of two ways at LL Photoshop. One is by album, and one is by individual picture. You'd have to find my album. When I get home tonight I'll send you a link.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 26, 2005 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I want to clarify one thing real quick. I am aware of sleep apnea, and I'm aware of how common it is. My dad's probably had it for 20+ years. I'm pretty certain I had it when I used to smoke.

My breathing seemingly stopping happens while I'm conscious. That's part of what makes it freaky.

Now, I will say that my dad this past year has become narcaleptic. I got to witness it myself this past Christmas. He just spontaneously falls asleep at the drop of a hat. Not when he's driving or anything, but if he has a quiet moment by himself he'll fall asleep fast. He's also quite overweight, had to have a bypass surgury this year, and has pretty severe sleep apnea. He uses a machine to force air when he's sleeping now. Don't know if it relates or not, but feel free to speculate.

to all
AG

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Lialei
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posted October 26, 2005 08:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message
Well, glad you are knowledgeable about it, AG. Although very sorry to hear about your Dad's health troubles.
Thought maybe I should mention it on the off-chance it could be a possibility...but yes, would only happen when you are sleeping.
Was concerned is all.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 26, 2005 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, I know. Thought it would be helpful to clarify.

How are you feeling?

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AcousticGod
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posted October 27, 2005 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Went to bed last night without incident. You guys have really helped. Even just knowing that other people are aware of this or have gone through this has helped me immensely.

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sue g
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posted October 27, 2005 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Oh wonderful to hear AG.....I sent reiki but it was to an old photo of you in a thread about what sex are you......if you can guide me to a recent one....looked through MSN, with no success...could send it again.....but dont feel you have to man.

Did you try the breathing AG.....I feel it helps. My Dad told me that once he read an article in a newspaper about a guy who claims he healed his shrapnel wounds through deep breathing.....Ive never forgotten that.....amazing or what?

Great to hear you feel better.........
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Hi Lia,

How are you girl......oh......didnt I say that before.....maybe you didnt hear me....hope youre well anyway....

Think I am going senile...repeating myself ,must be me age...hehehehehehe

xxx

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Lialei
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posted October 27, 2005 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lialei     Edit/Delete Message

glad you're feeling a bit better, AG.
I'm feeling a bit better today. Thanks.
hi Sue. Had the flu the past few days, but coming back to normal hopefully soon. Was a doosey...and my son was pretty sick with croup and had to go to the hospital, but he is doing much better now too.
Lovely day to you guys.

Acoustic, I've felt that with my heart as well, so remember how scary it can feel. Although mine was due to far too much cocaine. years and years ago...I'm a good girl now.
But it did freak me out...and the more freaked out I felt the more I felt as if I was going to actually have a heart attack.
Very frightening.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 27, 2005 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
For Sue,

I went and found the link for you.
http://www.communities.ninemsn.com.au/LindalandPhotoShop/acousticgod.msnw

Lialei,

You have email.

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pixelpixie
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posted October 27, 2005 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Just so's you know..
I get that too.
The 'forgetting to breathe' thing.. and I have mentioned the heart thing to my Doctor as well, who assured me I was decidedly normal.. and that the coffee I have in my hand is most likely the culprit.
No advice really, just similarity and comfort in that.

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AcousticGod
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posted October 27, 2005 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting. Thanks for saying so.

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sue g
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posted October 28, 2005 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for that AG.....please ask when you feel the need and I will send some reiki onto you, no problem...

Lia, I am so sorry to hear of your son's illness, and yours too....I hope you both feel better soon.......

Love to all

Sue

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