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SunChild
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posted April 18, 2006 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
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posted April 18, 2006 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Hi SunChild,

Oh, I get those awful feelings during my PMS too! I've never taken birth control pills, so nearly every physical and emotional toil you've talked about here are things I go through regularly with my cycles. At the same time, I feel extremely intuitive and sensitive. How about you?

I've posted a thread here about similar issues. One member suggested taking Evening Primrose Oil everyday, which I did. But I couldn't adjust to making it a habit. I noticed a very mild change while on it, but not a whole lot.

I've read that the changes we experience are the natural responses the body goes through with the drop of a certain hormone. I forget if it is estrogen or progesterone. Anyhow, there is a cream sold in healthfood stores with Wild Yam Root Extract that one applies on the skin of the abdomen. Apparently there is a something in the extract like the hormone we experience a drop in during our cycle.
So in theory, its absorption helps smooth out the hormone adjustment by flow time.

There is also a tincture sold by a famous natural health doctor Trillian suggested. May be she can add her two cents about it?

In sympathy ,

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posted April 19, 2006 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for divinia     Edit/Delete Message
Dear SunChild:

You poor, poor dear! And I thought my PMS was bad. I have at least one insane day a month. Often it is so bad that I contemplate disconnecting from it all, including my 6-year-old son whom I love dearly and my ever-patient, loving husband. I have read in natural-health books that taking high doses of B6 helps (around 200 mg/day). Also calcium and magnesium are very important. Flax oil (omega-3) supplementation is recommended as well as GLA supplementation through Evening Primrose or Borage Oils. Fish Oil is recommended too.

Dong Quai is an herb well-respected in the East for regulation of estrogen. If your estrogen levels are too high, it is thought to lower them. If too low, it should raise them. Also, Vitex (chasteberry) is known to affect levels of progesterone which is most likely responsible for labile mood, anxiety, irritability, etc.

I wish you the best of luck in putting your life back together. I know your partner is older, so maybe he will be able to understand. I will pray for you to have to best life possible.

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posted April 19, 2006 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, I dont have any remedies, Sun.

Wishing you Peace and Healing.

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trillian
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posted April 19, 2006 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild, I'm sorry, I don't get here too often anymore. But yes, I know of some help for balancing your hormones, in the form of a tincture which you can make yourself, and it includes Dong Quai. As I'm sure you know, it's most important to use only organic herbs of the highest quality, so you will have to search them out in Australia. I know only companies in the U.S., like www.pacificbotanicals.com.

I had promised the recipe to Proxie, too, and as yet, haven't posted it. I'm afraid I don't have it with me, but I will post it for you ASAP. While it is in copyrighted material by Sam Biser, the actual recipe is the intellectual property of Dr. Richard Schulze, who has chosen to allow it to be published in several places, so that women can make it for themselves if they choose to. You can learn more about Dr. Schulze at www.herbdoc.com. His female formula is available for purchase as a prepared tincture, but I find it easier and less expensive to make it myself.

What does it do? Helps to balance your hormones, to make you feel better and keep your body young, as well as to alleviate symptoms of menopause, should one be in that stage of life.

I would agree with you emphatically that meds are not the way to go. I wish you healing and wellness, SunChild. And I will get the formula to you ASAP.

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posted April 19, 2006 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gooberzlostlovefound     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild~

Wow, do I sympathize.

I have the most intense PMS, too...there's no telling what I'll eat, when I'll cry, or who I'll kill. It's insane.

I just started another thread cause I am going through major problems with the physical aspect of my period.

But I also totally understand how hard the emotional aspect can be. I'm sure some of my past friendships/relationships ended when I was in the midst of PMS.

I feel like I should wear a sign that says, "I'm hormonally challenged -- Don't take anything I say or do too seriously"

When I have a boyfriend, I always want him to come over and just hold me. It's one of the only things that help. I seem to be in major need of snuggling/comfort.

If I'm not seeing someone, I usually lie on the couch watching sappy movies, crying my eyes out. It's like I become a totally different person. I usually call up my friends and family and tell them that I love them. My mom's like, "honey, are you okay? do you have cancer, are you dying?" lol. My wacko mood fluctuations are actually kind of humorous I guess, but it does NOT feel funny while it's going on.

When PMS strikes, I am a walking disaster!!

I wish you all the best of luck in finding something that works for you.

(and if you find it, pelase let me know. my friends and family will thank you, lol)

~GLLF

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posted April 19, 2006 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Harpyr     Edit/Delete Message
I just read somewhere that eliminating refined white sugar from ones diet can help alleviate PMS symptoms. That includes cutting out white bread, noodles, white rice, instant oatmeal, white potatoes, and fruit juice. Alot of people subsist primarily on these foods and that causes a rollercoaster affect of sugar highs and crashes that can contribute to really horrible PMS episodes..

I hope you can find some relief from this, SunChild.

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SunChild
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posted April 19, 2006 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks so much, I don't think I ever felt what pms is like and it is such a tidal wave. And all this time I thought other women exaggerate their symptoms, it was hard to believe that we can become so erratic and strange. lol....
Well I can see a humorous side, and I'm so lucky that my partner is supportive, and I am thankful he didn't take me seriously when I dumped him. Poor guy.
Aphrodite I heard about Wild Yam, and what luck, my local health food store is called Wild Yam. I'll call in there today.
It sounds so familiar to me.

Trillian a tincture sounds wonderful I may research Dong Quai myself this afternoon.
I appreciate your help so much.


GLLF I wish I was wearing that sign...I wish I still am...PMS seems to travel half way into my period...hmmm. If I do find something I will surely let you know, I will advertise it everywhere...!
I am willing to give anything a trial, at the moment.

I crave chocolate too; do we crave it because we need something from the cacao bean? (I hope so.) I'm willing to eat plenty of chocolate.
Harpyr I don't eat white stuff, but I do crave it when enduring pms, I only cut it out of my diet last year, but you are right, a lot of us should cut those foods out completely.

Thanks for all support and Love.

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Nephthys
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posted April 19, 2006 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Sunchild,

Please see my response to GLLF's thread. I would say to do the same thing for you.

I went off the pill 1 year ago, after being on for 20 years.

I really have to be so, so careful with my diet and watch what I eat. I hope my advice there helps you too.

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SunChild
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posted April 20, 2006 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou Nephthys.

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trillian
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posted April 20, 2006 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild,

I hope this finds you well. I have given some thought to your problems and would like to mention a few things before I give you the recipe at the end of this post.

First, when you are feeling anxiety or anger, one of the best things around to calm you down immediately is Rescue Remedy, from Bach Flowers. juniperb has written extensively on the Bach Flower Essences; a simple search here at LL will get you to those threads. The other day I was so angry about something that my hands shook. A few sprays of Rescue Remedy on my tongue and I was much calmer in just moments, my hands no longer shook, and I was able to think more clearly, without being so emotional. During times of inner turmoil, nothing is better (or more natural!).

Don't forget chamomile tea. Thing is, as with all natural remedies, you need the finest herb you can buy. Make sure it's organic. Your best bet is to just buy the bulk herb from an organic dealer.

Another herb I have had great success with is feverfew. There were stressful times when I could not sleep, but some feverfew in capsule form always calmed me so that I could relax. Now, feverfew does not make you drowsy! It just calms you. You could either make a tincture, or stop at your favorite health store and buy some capsules/pills.

Now, on to the Female Formula. It is printed in the book Curing With Cayenne by Sam Biser, but Dr. Schulze has allowed it to be printed in several other publications as well. One of the things I like so much about Dr. S is that he encourages people to make their own tinctures and take a greater part in their own well-being.

So here we go!

Again, buy the finest organic or wild-harvested herbs you can get, or you will be wasting your time and money. Find a bulk dealer, SunChild.

Start the tincture on the New Moon. Harvest it on the Full Moon.

Ingredients to make one gallon:


*edited, as promised*


Keep your tinctures in glass, preferably dark glass, or at least store them in a dark place.

I take 10 droppersful of this tincture every day, in a fruit smoothie every morning. But I think you need a steady dose, at least to start, SunChild. Try 1-3 droppersful 3-4x per day. Increase it if you need to. If you want to super-power your tinctures, mix them in a smoothie that also includes organic, hot cayenne. Cayenne makes everything stronger. Most bulk dealers also carry cayenne. Now, if you're ordering cayenne that is 300,000 skovels, then please just use a pinch!

I must go for now, but if you have any questions, please ask. If I can be of any assistance...

Love and Healing,
Trillian

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26taurus
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posted April 22, 2006 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, great info!!

Maybe that'll help me with my own monthly periods of mental hormonal lunacy.

Thanks, trill.

How is everything going SunChild?

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SunChild
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posted April 23, 2006 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Trillian *Hugs*
Thanks for your time and advice!!! I knew I was enjoying Chamomile tea for a reason, I have about 2 cups a day, but they are a supermarket brand. I will take your recommendation and buy organic from a bulk dealer.

I printed the tincture info out & will find all ingredients before the next new moon, which I believe is on the 27th.
So I start it on the new moon, and strain it (harvest it) on the full moon, correct?
I will be updating, and I'm sure a few questions will come up as I have never made a tincture before... Wish me luck!

26~ I'm feeling better, thnx. I'm feeling ok and welcoming the changes. I did this, so I can't blame anyone, and I think I'm discovering a new freedom. Something has definantly changed for the good. I just need a little help going with the flow, that's all.

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posted April 24, 2006 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild, yes, strain it (harvest) on the full moon. I wish you the best of luck and health. I will probably let the recipe up for a while longer, then delete it from the post. Anyone who later might want it can contact me.

The thing about teas, etc., that aren't organic is that they are often grown in developing countries that don't regulate pesticides, etc. Then when they arrive at the country where they will be sold, they're sprayed with even more pesticides to meet regulations! So by the time they reach you, their efficacy is greatly diminished, and all that chemical residue might cause more harm than good. At least if you stop at a store and buy organic tea bags, you can have more confidence in what you're buying.

Please feel free to ask me anything.

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posted April 25, 2006 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nebel     Edit/Delete Message
Hiya SunChild

I don't know if this applies to you or not, but one thing I know aggravates my PMS is Soy! The phytoestrogens in soy raise your own estrogen levels and this is what can cause PMS, painfull periods & acne.

Chaste tree works wonders for these problems - but I must warn you - it ain't called 'Chaste' Tree for nothing! Roman celestial virgins took Chaste tree to reduce their sex drive - and I can tell you now, that it does!

I'm switching to Dong Quai once I've finished the jar of Chaste Tree, so I'll let you know how it goes

Good Luck
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posted April 26, 2006 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ariestiger     Edit/Delete Message
I actually found that the most pivotal thing in diminishing very bad PMS was cutting out cow's milk (inc. butter, cream - even the tiniest amounts) and soya products, due to the high levels of calcium (which upsets the body's electrolyte/ionic balance - nothing I read, just basic applied science here) and oestrogens. Meat, goat's and sheep's milk are fine. I used to get VERY bad fibrocystic breasts, also thought I was getting endometriosis due to all the pain I was experiencing down below and elsewhere - it was becoming impossible.

Progesterone is the hormone that is supposed to make us feel good, problem is that the ratio is unbalanced in many of us with so much oestrogen in the environment. Therefore the yam creams can be excellent, HOWEVER: they do not address the cause, which 99.9 % of the time is dietary. I have found the best thing is to follow a mainly anti-candida diet (although I do include a small amount of fruit and sugar during the 2nd half of my cycle since it prevents spots and depression) and eat foods in their purest state possible, just steam or grill - also avoid consuming alcohol and too many fats (as in added fats such as sunflower or olive oils), since hormones are derived from fats and are related to alcohols. I.e. no fried foods and also foods with added salt (this increases water retention). I also avoid personal allergens such as mushrooms, tomatoes, oranges, bananas, yeast, breads, cheese etc.

Over time, if the oestrogen/cow's milk consumption and other dietary factors ar addressed, the toxicity levels in the body will go down and the hormone levels in the body will redress themselves - THIS IS FACT - I have tried everything and the above certainly works for me.

The only problem I have now is some emotional symptoms and a debilitating, ****ing awful migraine on the 1st or 2nd day (I.e. yesterday for me) which gives me the obvious violent headache, nausea bad enough to not make me want to remain vertical - LOL - and totally weak muscles, so I feel as though I want to pass out. All hormone-related. I haven't cracked that one yet, though I'll tell you when I do. But I think that since I have been cooking for myself and therefore able to regulate my dietary intake much of the toxicity has been eliminated from my body. It's all down to diet!!!!!

I can entirely sympathize with any PMS-related problems. I only took birth control for 1 month once (supposed to ease PMS) and felt like I was having a period every day of the month. So, please, feel free to question me about any problems you may be having!!! Ask away!


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posted April 27, 2006 02:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Trillian

Nebel,
Yes you are right about soy, I cut that out a long time ago. Thanks for your advice.

ariestiger,
I agree diet does play a role. Infact I've been raw-vegan for quite some time that I began expecting results. Maybe it's too soon, my body is still healing and undergoing detox. I'm not a strict fanatic raw vegan, I do eat 'regular' foods now and then but I try to make the healthiest choices possible.
I know this diet will eventually heal me, it has already healed many things. Thanks AT

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posted May 04, 2006 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild--an update please. How are you dear one?

Interestingly, an ayurvedic health practioner would say that it is raw, cold foods that contribute to our ill health. I don't espouse a raw food diet, personally. I love cooked foods too much, but I have a full 5th house. It's important to experiment and find what works for us best, as individuals. And seasons are also important. Raw foods might work better for us in warmer seasons, whereas warm foods help to warm our bodies in colder seasons.

I wish continued health for you.

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posted May 05, 2006 02:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
I'm doing well thanks Trillian. I still have to pick up those ingredients but I hsould have them by next week. I will let you know how it goes.
I also will be using Wild Yam cream and be using MACA in my smoothies.
Maca increases the production of progesteron. I have had this in my cupboard for months and never used it!

Raw foods have been a miracle for me in many ways. I could never go back to cooked food, my taste has changed and so has my body. I never eat food cold, I think refridgeration is somewhat unnatural, but it is a good invention, it stops oils from going rancid and keeps perishables fresher longer, however I always eat my raw food at room temperature, it's much tastier that way, and easier to digest.
I never chill fruit.

Thank you so much for your help Trillian.
Will keep updating.

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posted May 27, 2006 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulsista     Edit/Delete Message
SunChild, I just wanted to pass on my sincere thoughts to you. I have suffered PMT to what sounds ike a similar degree for years and I fully understand the hell that you go through. I think if you have tried all other remedies you maybe have to consider conventional medicine, there is a contraceptive pill called Anya which claims to stop PMT. I dont know - Ive not tried it. I really wish you the best and Im sending you positive energy (((Sunchild))

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posted May 28, 2006 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou SoulSista

Oh by the way Trillian, my herbalist friend is making the tincture for me, she promised she'll do it and I hope to see it soon...lol...I NEED it.
I will let you know how it goes.

At the moment, I'm taking in lots of Cacao, which will regulate my magnesium levels, taking in lots of greens and basically adding more minerals into my body. I feel soooo much better.

And I'm also taking responsibility for my life changes and using a little personal alchemy to make things great again.

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posted May 28, 2006 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for salome     Edit/Delete Message
personal alchemy

sounds great...do you share your personal alchemy techniques, by any chance?

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posted May 28, 2006 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FishKitten     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sunchild. Just a couple of things. Black Cohosh helps tons. I have read several studies which say the wild yam thing doesn't really work, but it doesn't hurt anything either. Good luck!

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posted June 01, 2006 11:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SunChild     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks FishKitten!

Hey Salome, ....

Well I simply turn negative thoughts into positive thoughts.

Since my last reply on this string, something magical already happened.
I spent the WHOLE day in positivity and asked the Universe for a sign post to help me along the way! Today, I had my brother over for afternoon tea and he brought with him a two friends. One friend in particular turned out to be the son of the proprietor from my old job!!!!
He said "why don't you ask my dad for your job back? He'll understand!!!"
Well the Universe works fast-
I can now proudly say, and not be ashamed of being an Inverse Paranoid. LOL...
The Universe does conspire to help you when you ask.

I felt like I walked into some twighlight zone and tomorrow morning I AM going to get my job back!!!
I already know it!!!

I'll be back tomorrow with even better news.

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