posted August 15, 2006 10:22 AM         

I was reading Linda's Steps to Fruitarianism and I personally think she missed one step. And that is raw foodism.
I don't think it's possible to jump from cooked vegetarian, to cooked vegan, to fruitarianism, I think raw foodism should be in between.... like you should eat all raw for a few years first. But I think even fruitarians still eat some greens and nuts.

When I was eating cooked vegan food I thought fruitarianism was a bit radical, now I can't wait to live on 100% fruit since going raw.

posted August 15, 2006 10:33 AM         

Anyway here are some facts (IMO) that I learned along my raw food journey:

*If you consume sufficient calories you will obtain sufficient protein*

*IF you eat enough fruit to sustain yourself for several hours you will get enough nourishment- the trick is to eat massive amounts of fruit*

*Deficiencies don't come about due to not eating meat, or milk ect... it's due to assimilation- a good digestive tract will ensure you receive the right nutrients*

*If you crave anything sweet (other than fruit) you are simply not eating enough fresh fruit*

*We produce vitmain b12 naturally if we have a healthy digestive system, a vegan diet does not cause b12 deficiencies*

*The best source of protein (amino acids) is green leafy vegetables or sea vegetables*

*Fruit makes you more sexy and fertile (IMHO)*

Some more coming sooon...

posted August 17, 2006 02:51 AM         

I read , if a person survives only on milk dfor a month , even then he woudln have any defeiecy except for VITAMIN C.?

U mean to say even fruits would be same standing as milk????
What kind of fruits -all of them ?
I love all fruits even jackfruit .
recently tasted kiwi and they are great too.

posted August 17, 2006 04:16 PM         

Many vegans are very particular. Did you know that the process of bleaching white sugar includes the use of animal bones? For this reason, vegans do not buy white sugar. And something called "fish gel" is used to clarify wine, so many vegans also avoid wines. In fact, many liquors use blood and other animal products, but to date, alcohol manufacturers are not required to list any ingredients on their packaging, or anywhere else. Grrrr....

Strict veganism takes a lot of work and close attention!

I am vegan-ish. I doubt that I will become a raw food person or fruitarian, SunChild.

posted August 24, 2006 05:43 PM         

i hope to be again one day.

posted September 05, 2006 01:35 AM         

I hope you will reply to this- and to us. Although at the moment I am not a strict vegetarian, and sometimes I do eat fish, shrimps and I've been taking deep-sea salmon oil supplement for DHA and EPA consumption (and the brand I take is from New Zealand- I would never take fish oils from, say, North Sea in Western Europe; fish from that area are indeed dangerously contaminated with toxins)...but most of the time I am on a lacto-ovo vegetarian diet. Actually I have elminated consumption of all the following: butter, cream, ice cream, cheese, yoghurt. I reluctantly have my breakfast cereal with non-fat cow's milk because there's no fortified plant-based milk, and I wish I could replace cow's milk with almond milk, or try to obtain good source of almond consumption and switch cow's milk to either soya milk or oats milk- I don't like the idea of drinking animal milks, cow's milk in particular, because I personally think/know/believe that it's contaminated also, and I don't like the idea of cows milking far more than the amount than her newborn calf would drink, merely for human consumption and her calves ending up having no "mother's milk" to drink; also, I don't like the idea of my eating eggs, either. As for honey and other bee products, well, that's still to be further examined. I haven't come to my own conclusion, still weighing the pros and cons. Basically, and ultimately, I don't want to cause bloodshed, and so perhaps I really shouldn't and don't need to eat fish...but I've been trying to and will figure that out eventually.

I love eating fruit and drinking fresh, organic fruit juice, though; and it would not be such a terrifying notion if I had to give up all the other types of "food" and stay on a raw and fruitarian diet. It's just all the facts and falsehood about nutrition that's been bugging me, and I'm trying to do more studying.

Finally, SunChild I've been having this on my mind for quite a while- I'd like to ask you a question: how do you remain on a raw and fruitarian diet while having to leave home for work or school or anything? How can one manage to maintain her/his raw & fruitarian diet when dining out? Please, I really need to know. I guess this is my burning question.

posted September 12, 2006 09:23 AM         

I recalled this today or yesterday I'm not so sure...anyway it's an experience I'd like to share, which took place three years ago-

My former psychiatrist (Taiwanese, and who practiced back in my hometown, not in the UK), a senior one, and an inhumane one (his colleagues actually agree on that fact), instructed me to discontinue my Clozaril (clozapine) when I got back to him with my then latest blood test results with my white blood cells count as low as 2.8 . Back then I wouldn't have known sudden discontinuation of any psychotropic drug could be dangerous...I've never discontinued my meds out of my own will in my entire life, but 3 years ago I was as innocent and as ignorant as someone who completely trusted my physician. I experienced one of my most agonizing weeks in my whole life. I couldn't sleep, couldn't eat anything. I got back to London earlier from Bath, went straight away to the ER...I had not completely recovered, and my appetite was still terrible. How did I regain my appetite and my energy? The first few days after visiting the ER, I ate nothing else but apples and bananas. A little of fruit each day, and progress was being made. Eventually I was back on my feet again and also back to my original diet...but thinking back, it was amazing and miraculous to me that I survived on/with fruit! That should inspire me to think further! Back then I could eat nothing but just fruit! And fruit made me thrive again

posted September 18, 2006 06:43 PM         

Those are good questions and I do get asked that all the time.

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how do you remain on a raw and fruitarian diet while having to leave home for work or school or anything?

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In my last job I had a fruit bowl on my desk and made sure I kept an abundance of fruit wherever I go because it's a staple food for me. I also brought a blender to work so I could make fruit and green smoothies everyday. I usually add things like spirulina, banana, almond milk, honey, maca, cacao, coconut oil, and things that will make me feel full and nourished all day.
Being prepared is key.
I take fruit with me EVERYWHERE!

Also, you asked:

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How can one manage to maintain her/his raw & fruitarian diet when dining out?

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posted September 19, 2006 05:31 AM         

and thanks for the info!

I hope I'll be back for adding more feedback to you later when I have sufficient time to! I appreciate your reply

Fruit, almond/almond milk/spirulina...and the rest...all sound great to me!

posted September 19, 2006 07:24 PM         

However, the worst thing to see is an unhappy vegan, vegetarian or raw foodist.... you know....before eating raw became easy for me, I let myself eat whatever I wanted until genuinely didn't want them anymore.

It is possible to feel full on a raw diet, but it's not really sustainable forever because of all the nuts and the dehydrating. If you did want to go fully raw I'd recommend "Alissa Cohen's Living On Live Food" DVD... http://www.alissacohen.com
All her recipes are awesome and they got me through the first 6 months.

Just look at her recipes (yes they are raw)

Enchiladas...(This corn - flax seed tortilla is a soft, chewy flat bread that is wrapped around warmed, diced veggies and then dehydrated to perfection!)

-- I have made and they are delicious!!!

The wrapping is made with banana fruit leathers and they are very very naughty but raw though.

This is a date nut torte.... I depended on this recipe for months!! It has like 4 ingredients....
Dates
Almonds
Raisins
And lemon juice.

posted September 28, 2006 01:57 AM         

Thanks very much for the answers, the info and the lovely recipes, plus the pics! *yum-yum*

But I've come up with more questions...

What if I travel overseas, or, say, even within the country I reside, but far away from where I live? I'd like to know what a fruitarian can/should do when s/he has to travel, especially traveling abroad.

Also, bringing a blender to work/school must mean that the blender is a relatively smaller one. I don't know yet, but I'll search for blenders here in my hometown...but I'd just like to know the size of your portable blender, for my future references?

Oh, and I remember that you had discussed your personal codes when it comes to a fruitarian diet, with which I agreed mostly...but I'm just curious, sorry (if I recall it right, they say "Curiosity can kill a cat"!)...but honey and vegetables, the latter being the primary ingredients of salad...are technically not fruit. Or please correct me if I'm mistaken or if fact they are associated with a fruitarian diet, and it might be just me who have yet to realize the connections between them...

I'd appreciate your guidance. Thanks in advance, SunChild!

posted September 28, 2006 09:44 AM         

Let's not forget our astrological make up, SunChild, and its influences on our preferences and needs. I would be most interested to hear what you have on the cusp of your 6th house.

For me, it's Cappy on the cusp of the 6th. I love my fruits and veggies, but I also need warm comfort foods, too. Soups and breads and pastas, etc.

Just another nut to throw in the mix. Some of those recipes look mighty tasty!

posted September 28, 2006 09:49 AM         

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However, the worst thing to see is an unhappy vegan, vegetarian or raw foodist.... you know....before eating raw became easy for me, I let myself eat whatever I wanted until genuinely didn't want them anymore.

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Well said!